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The honourable Jordan Peterson addresses the “not real communism” fallacy

 

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1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said:

Show me the thriving stateless communist country then 

Thinking something can't be done simply because it hasn't been done is very short-sighted and corrosive thinking.

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Just now, Rod Johnson said:

Communism can’t exist without the authoritarian state 

You keep saying that as if you're trying to make it true while ignoring the fact that an authoritarian state precludes it being communist

I do not like patient moto one bit. Call Tyler Buttcocks a fucking retard and move on knowing he isnt smart enough to tie his shoes let alone discuss the finer points of various type of governments and political ideologies 

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Just now, motonoggin said:

Thinking something can't be done simply because it hasn't been done is very short-sighted and corrosive thinking.

Until you can convince 100% to live in poverty and give up their possessions stateless communism is only possible through authoritarianism. While tachninically possible it’s highly improbable to the point you can safely say it’ll never happen because it’s basically impossible 

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1 minute ago, f7ben said:

I do not like patient moto one bit. Call Tyler Buttcocks a fucking retard and move on knowing he isnt smart enough to tie his shoes let alone discuss the finer points of various type of governments and political ideologies 

So has stateless communism existed? Or nah 

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2 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

You keep saying that as if you're trying to make it true while ignoring the fact that an authoritarian state precludes it being communist

You can’t have communism without an authoritarian state 

Lmao. 

When everyone getting what they need feels like poverty, you're probably a reactionary.

1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said:

So has stateless communism existed? Or nah 

stateless communism is an oxymoron.......you are just a plain moron :lol: 

Capitalism took 400 years to become the dominant system on the globe. These sorts of things just don't happen overnight. 

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1 minute ago, motonoggin said:

Lmao. 

When everyone getting what they need feels like poverty, you're probably a reactionary.

Compared to how most of us live in our western society yes it’s poverty.

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1 minute ago, f7ben said:

stateless communism is an oxymoron.......you are just a plain moron :lol: 

Is that so... oh moto...

The most intriguing prediction to come out of socialist thought was the notion that the transition to it and away from capitalism wouldn't begin until capitalism had peaked and would setup conditions that make it so our social constructs would begin evolving. 

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Capitalism brings people out of poverty. Communism does the opposite 

1 minute ago, motonoggin said:

The most intriguing prediction to come out of socialist thought was the notion that the transition to it and away from capitalism wouldn't begin until capitalism had peaked and would setup conditions that make it so our social constructs would begin evolving. 

The advent of AI will end capitalism. Its coming soon 

Just now, Rod Johnson said:

Capitalism brings people out of poverty. Communism does the opposite 

:lol: 

10 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Until you can convince 100% to live in poverty and give up their possessions stateless communism is only possible through authoritarianism. While tachninically possible it’s highly improbable to the point you can safely say it’ll never happen because it’s basically impossible 

It makes a nice lecture topic for college professors and lecturers.  

1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said:

Capitalism brings people out of poverty. Communism does the opposite 

Lol. Capitalism requires poverty to survive. 

1 minute ago, f7ben said:

The advent of AI will end capitalism. Its coming soon 

Yup. What'll happen, do you think?

Will we all have tons of free time or will we have a giant teeming underclass of peasants?

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3 minutes ago, f7ben said:

:lol: 

It’s true 

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1 minute ago, motonoggin said:

Lol. Capitalism requires poverty to survive. 

Yup. What'll happen, do you think?

Will we all have tons of free time or will we have a giant teeming underclass of peasants?

There will always be people in poverty to an extent. Just a lot less with capitalism 

Just now, Rod Johnson said:

There will always be people in poverty to an extent. Just a lot less with capitalism 

Ok thanks for admitting capitalism can't meet the needs of humanity.

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Just now, motonoggin said:

Ok thanks for admitting capitalism can't meet the needs of humanity.

It does a lot better than communism 

3 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

Lol. Capitalism requires poverty to survive. 

Yup. What'll happen, do you think?

Will we all have tons of free time or will we have a giant teeming underclass of peasants?

I would assume AI will find humans utterly useless and disgusting ......you know the rest 

1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said:

It does a lot better than communism 

Communism is inevitable.

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Just now, motonoggin said:

Communism is inevitable.

But it’s been tried and inevitably fails in disaster 

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