Rod Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: Lmao. Communism didn't do that, an authoritarian state did that. Communism can’t exist without the authoritarian state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: Show me the thriving stateless communist country then Thinking something can't be done simply because it hasn't been done is very short-sighted and corrosive thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 8, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 8, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Communism can’t exist without the authoritarian state You keep saying that as if you're trying to make it true while ignoring the fact that an authoritarian state precludes it being communist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 I do not like patient moto one bit. Call Tyler Buttcocks a fucking retard and move on knowing he isnt smart enough to tie his shoes let alone discuss the finer points of various type of governments and political ideologies 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: Thinking something can't be done simply because it hasn't been done is very short-sighted and corrosive thinking. Until you can convince 100% to live in poverty and give up their possessions stateless communism is only possible through authoritarianism. While tachninically possible it’s highly improbable to the point you can safely say it’ll never happen because it’s basically impossible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: I do not like patient moto one bit. Call Tyler Buttcocks a fucking retard and move on knowing he isnt smart enough to tie his shoes let alone discuss the finer points of various type of governments and political ideologies So has stateless communism existed? Or nah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: You keep saying that as if you're trying to make it true while ignoring the fact that an authoritarian state precludes it being communist You can’t have communism without an authoritarian state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Lmao. When everyone getting what they need feels like poverty, you're probably a reactionary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: So has stateless communism existed? Or nah stateless communism is an oxymoron.......you are just a plain moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Capitalism took 400 years to become the dominant system on the globe. These sorts of things just don't happen overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Lmao. When everyone getting what they need feels like poverty, you're probably a reactionary. Compared to how most of us live in our western society yes it’s poverty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, f7ben said: stateless communism is an oxymoron.......you are just a plain moron Is that so... oh moto... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 The most intriguing prediction to come out of socialist thought was the notion that the transition to it and away from capitalism wouldn't begin until capitalism had peaked and would setup conditions that make it so our social constructs would begin evolving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 Capitalism brings people out of poverty. Communism does the opposite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: The most intriguing prediction to come out of socialist thought was the notion that the transition to it and away from capitalism wouldn't begin until capitalism had peaked and would setup conditions that make it so our social constructs would begin evolving. The advent of AI will end capitalism. Its coming soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: Capitalism brings people out of poverty. Communism does the opposite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Until you can convince 100% to live in poverty and give up their possessions stateless communism is only possible through authoritarianism. While tachninically possible it’s highly improbable to the point you can safely say it’ll never happen because it’s basically impossible It makes a nice lecture topic for college professors and lecturers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: Capitalism brings people out of poverty. Communism does the opposite Lol. Capitalism requires poverty to survive. 1 minute ago, f7ben said: The advent of AI will end capitalism. Its coming soon Yup. What'll happen, do you think? Will we all have tons of free time or will we have a giant teeming underclass of peasants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: It’s true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, motonoggin said: Lol. Capitalism requires poverty to survive. Yup. What'll happen, do you think? Will we all have tons of free time or will we have a giant teeming underclass of peasants? There will always be people in poverty to an extent. Just a lot less with capitalism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just now, Rod Johnson said: There will always be people in poverty to an extent. Just a lot less with capitalism Ok thanks for admitting capitalism can't meet the needs of humanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted May 8, 2018 Author Share Posted May 8, 2018 Just now, motonoggin said: Ok thanks for admitting capitalism can't meet the needs of humanity. It does a lot better than communism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Lol. Capitalism requires poverty to survive. Yup. What'll happen, do you think? Will we all have tons of free time or will we have a giant teeming underclass of peasants? I would assume AI will find humans utterly useless and disgusting ......you know the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted May 8, 2018 Share Posted May 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Rod Johnson said: It does a lot better than communism Communism is inevitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.