xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Sleepr2 said: And another subject that you’re an authority on, keep it up and you can take the liars place as FS know it all. I thought you couldn’t get dumber... I was wrong on that. Obviously not an expert in all things apparently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: I thought you couldn’t get dumber... I was wrong on that. Obviously not an expert in all things apparently... Youre a specialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, DAVE said: Youre a specialist. That sounds technical enough! I’ll take it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, Highmark said: And neither does socialism. It works as an opt-in model, there are successful communes around the country. 2 hours ago, Sleepr2 said: Oh BS! You don’t speak for all gays and I guarantee my gay neighbor would tell you to sit down and shut up , No, we'd talk nicely and maybe become friends. 2 hours ago, Arctic Cat Destroyer said: Whats with all of the gay talk? Stop this shit. Calling someone a faggot doesnt necessarily mean they are gay, it means they are an annoying little bitch. And speaking of annoying little bitches I think Ben put the final boot to Snowrider's nuts with the "History of..." thread. Good riddance to that little bitch. I don't think these faggots that are hung up on the gay stuff understand that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, Wildboer said: It works as an opt-in model, there are successful communes around the country. Really? Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 2 hours ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Lololol... Better watch out @Wildboer, he has a gay neighbor!!!!!! If you think for a second that a member of the LGBQT community would not take offense to maliciously calling a member of their community a faggot, then you are more brain dead than I thought... Pretty sure he is speaking for 99.9999% of “gays” in this instance. But hey, go show your neighbor the threads and tell him you think Wildboer is wrong for being offended. I’m sure he’ll agree and call Wildboer a whiny little bitch and take your side... bahahahaha, unreal... This is the difference between guys like this and people who aren't secretly homophobic. Also, is this what black people feel like when someone brings up their black friend in attemp to justify doing something racist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: Really? Where? All over the world... https://www.ic.org/directory/maps/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 11, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Wildboer said: All over the world... https://www.ic.org/directory/maps/ These are not all socialist where all wealth and income are shared. I'd venture a guess most are not. The key Opt-In also is telling. People join because they want to and can get out if they want to. Some could be defined as Religious Cults as well. Edited December 11, 2017 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 27 minutes ago, Wildboer said: This is the difference between guys like this and people who aren't secretly homophobic. Also, is this what black people feel like when someone brings up their black friend in attemp to justify doing something racist? Lol probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, Highmark said: These are not all socialist where all wealth and income are shared. I'd venture a guess most are not. The key Opt-In also is telling. People join because they want to and can get out if they want to. Some could be defined as Religious Cults as well. That's not the definition of socialism, if it was China wouldn't be socialist either. Everything is opt-in, every day you don't kill yourself you are opting-into living. If they're not trying to hurt anyone and members are allowed to leave what's the difference between a religious cult and a religion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted December 11, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 11, 2017 Just now, Wildboer said: That's not the definition of socialism, if it was China wouldn't be socialist either. Everything is opt-in, every day you don't kill yourself you are opting-into living. If they're not trying to hurt anyone and members are allowed to leave what's the difference between a religious cult and a religion? IMHO One dominant leader that has extreme authority over the followers. I think many religions walk a fine line with being a cult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: IMHO One dominant leader that has extreme authority over the followers. I think many religions walk a fine line with being a cult. These communities don't have an authoritative leader, they're socialist, decisions are made democratically by the community as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Socialism cannot exist without authoritarianism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Socialism cannot exist without authoritarianism No, it can't exist WITH authoritarianism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Wildboer said: No, it can't exist WITH authoritarianism. I guess your right man look at Venezuela and Cuba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 44 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: I guess your right man look at Venezuela and Cuba I'm not advocating for those countries, I would argue they're trying to be socialist but they're doing it wrong because they're being authoritarian. You're arguing against authoritarianism, not socialism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s pump Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 I think we found out who Moto's side piece is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, Wildboer said: I'm not advocating for those countries, I would argue they're trying to be socialist but they're doing it wrong because they're being authoritarian. You're arguing against authoritarianism, not socialism. You can't have socialism without authoritarianism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, s pump said: I think we found out who Moto's side piece is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: You can't have socialism without authoritarianism Yes you can. If everyone believes and agrees that it is in the "best interest of everyone". Funny thing is, to the lesser extent, that has happened in history. That "sale" has been made before and it works until people realize the promises made by the state taste like air and bad ground water..which is all they have abundance of....then, there is a problem. Not to worry though!! The State has a solution! Kill, starve and beat these delinquents wanting basic services they were promised back into submission. It's all very peaceful though and works out for everyone!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 Problem is you'll never convince everyone that being poor is a good thing. So the only way to make people to succumb to true socialism is through authoritarianism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Problem is you'll never convince everyone that being poor is a good thing. So the only way to make people to succumb to true socialism is through authoritarianism Those who refuse to be poor will get "the wall". But I'm pretty sure it's just some type of buffet now so, I guess that makes CeNtZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 35 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: You can't have socialism without authoritarianism Libertarian socialism is a very real thing Rod, you can't just pretend it doesn't exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Libertarian socialism is a very real thing Rod, you can't just pretend it doesn't exist. lol where, on tv? It doesn't exist in real life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: lol where, on tv? It doesn't exist in real life. It exists in the communes I just showed you and you responded by telling me those communes weren't socialist... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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