More footage of nurse being arrested. It's even worse than you think

[Highmark]

9 hours ago, polaris550 said:

All she had to do was have a witness stand by as she told Payne, " under threat of arrest, I can not stop you from taking the draw ".

 

EASY PEASEY, done deal, in three minutes. 

The lawyers and police would have hashed it out later. 

 

Reality is this would have been the smartest thing for her to do but I highly respect her for standing her ground.  

I can't come on here and say just do as the cops tell you to and you won't get shot and not think the same in this instance.  The vast majority of the time if the cops are wrong its better to deal with it after the fact than creating more possible charges for yourself.    

[Guest]

6 hours ago, awful knawful said:

Polaris550 talking to himself

AWful Knobful talking to himself : You're gay, no you you're gay, well yeah I 'm gay "  

[ActionfigureJoe]

the nurse did exactly what she was supposed to do. thankfully this scene almost never plays out because most cops and shift commanders are this fucking stupid. is the nurse a hero? not really. she did what any healthcare professional would've done to protect the privacy of a patient. it's how she's been trained. not to mentioned enlightened self interest on her part. had she agreed with the officer she could've been subject to willful malpractice which would've made her unemployable. 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

so let's negotiate the reality of the law to appease your phony cop complex. hey...fuck you. 

No, it's what a smart person does when faced with someone they believe is irrationally angry, YOU DE-ESCALATE the situation psychologically, and avoid a PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION. 

He told her right to her face, " I'm either leaving with the vials, or a body in tow " . That was her signal to either let him take the draw, or he was gonna' react physically.  

She, the hospital, and the trucker had  remedies if she let him take the draw under protest/under threat of arrest. 

She stood her moral ground, and look what happened. It was avoidable. 

Now, go fuck yourself. 

[ActionfigureJoe]

2 minutes ago, polaris550 said:

No, it's what a smart person does when faced with someone they believe is irrationally angry, YOU DE-ESCALATE the situation psychologically, and avoid a PHYSICAL CONFRONTATION. 

He told her right to her face, " I'm either leaving with the vials, or a body in tow " . That was her signal to either let him take the draw, or he was gonna' react physically.  

She, the hospital, and the trucker had  remedies if she let him take the draw under protest/under threat of arrest. 

She stood her moral ground, and look what happened. It was avoidable. 

Now, go fuck yourself. 

you and your cop friend can go fuck yourselves. the cop just lost one of his jobs and the other isn't far behind. his control issues now bought him early retirement and working at the local hardware hank's until he's 80. so fuck you. 

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

the nurse did exactly what she was supposed to do. thankfully this scene almost never plays out because most cops and shift commanders are this fucking stupid. is the nurse a hero? not really. she did what any healthcare professional would've done to protect the privacy of a patient. it's how she's been trained. not to mentioned enlightened self interest on her part. had she agreed with the officer she could've been subject to willful malpractice which would've made her unemployable. 

You fucking asshole, I just told you she could easily have documented that she allowed the draw" under threat of arrest by an armed police officer ". She would NEVER be charged with malpractice. 

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Highmark said:

Reality is this would have been the smartest thing for her to do but I highly respect her for standing her ground.  

I can't come on here and say just do as the cops tell you to and you won't get shot and not think the same in this instance.  The vast majority of the time if the cops are wrong its better to deal with it after the fact than creating more possible charges for yourself.    

Finally, some one with a PROFESSIONAL GRADE knowledge level of dealing with incendiary situations. 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

you and your cop friend can go fuck yourselves. the cop just lost one of his jobs and the other isn't far behind. his control issues now bought him early retirement and working at the local hardware hank's until he's 80. so fuck you. 

Up to this point, BOTH his employers said he was an excellen employee. In fact, he was awarded on the police department. 

You guys are all getting emotional because Wubbles was screaming, and crying, it's tugging on your emotions, thinking what if it was your daughter, wife, sister, girlfriend. 

This is what people do when facing arrest, they use whatever resource they have available.......men fight and kick the police, women usually yell, scream and cry. It's no big deal, cops see it every other day. 

If Wubbles HAD NOT YELLED, SCREAMED, FOUGHT, and CRIED, would you still be this emotional over this incident????   

[ActionfigureJoe]

8 minutes ago, polaris550 said:

Finally, some one with a PROFESSIONAL GRADE knowledge level of dealing with incendiary situations. 

you're full of shit. regardless of the officer's demands she would've been violating the patient's rights. she was the designate care giver/charge nurse. a patient's rights attorney would've chopped her to pieces on the stand. 

[Rigid1]

10 minutes ago, polaris550 said:

You fucking asshole, I just told you she could easily have documented that she allowed the draw" under threat of arrest by an armed police officer ". She would NEVER be charged with malpractice. 

But leaves herself open to a civil suit...The cops wanted to pin their fuck up on an innocent bystander..End of story you fuck tard..

[ActionfigureJoe]

6 minutes ago, polaris550 said:

Up to this point, BOTH his employers said he was an excellen employee. In fact, he was awarded on the police department. 

You guys are all getting emotional because Wubbles was screaming, and crying, it's tugging on your emotions, thinking what if it was your daughter, wife, sister, girlfriend. 

This is what people do when facing arrest, they use whatever resource they have available.......men fight and kick the police, women usually yell, scream and cry. It's no big deal, cops see it every other day. 

If Wubbles HAD NOT YELLED, SCREAMED, FOUGHT, and CRIED, would you still be this emotional over this incident????   

after his performance in that video...good riddance. he's not fit to wear a uniform. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

you're full of shit. regardless of the officer's demands she would've been violating the patient's rights. she was the designate care giver/charge nurse. a patient's rights attorney would've chopped her to pieces on the stand. 

She did not violate his rights.....THE COP WOULD HAVE!!! She would have justified her actions, it would be up to PAyne to justify his. Furthermore, if Payne testified that he believed he was justified in taking the draw, he would be exonerated. He stated that he thought Utah was still under IMPLIED CONSENT, and the Trucker had a CDL license. CDL Drivers are under INCREASED demands regarding alcohol consumption. 

This whole incident has gone viral because WUBBLES ........cried, yelled, screamed, and fought. It tugs on WOMEN'S emotions relating to abuse by men, and it tugs on men's protectiveness of their wives, sisters, girlfriends, daughters. 

[motonoggin]

1 minute ago, polaris550 said:

She did not violate his rights.....THE COP WOULD HAVE!!! She would have justified her actions, it would be up to PAyne to justify his. Furthermore, if Payne testified that he believed he was justified in taking the draw, he would be exonerated. He stated that he thought Utah was still under IMPLIED CONSENT, and the Trucker had a CDL license. CDL Drivers are under INCREASED demands regarding alcohol consumption. 

This whole incident has gone viral because WUBBLES ........cried, yelled, screamed, and fought. It tugs on WOMEN'S emotions relating to abuse by men, and it tugs on men's protectiveness of their wives, sisters, girlfriends, daughters. 

The cops knew they didn't have probable cause. He wanted an illegal search and she didn't comply. He's a jackbooted asshole who doesn't respect the Constitution.

The end.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Rigid1 said:

But leaves herself open to a civil suit...The cops wanted to pin their fuck up on an innocent bystander..End of story you fuck tard..

What did she do that she would be sued for, you cunt? She argued with the cop for ONE HOUR, telling him no, and showing him the documentation why. She had solid defense to any civil action. 

[Guest]

1 minute ago, motonoggin said:

The cops knew they didn't have probable cause. He wanted an illegal search and she didn't comply. He's a jackbooted asshole who doesn't respect the Constitution.

The end.

Yes, and she had remedies better than the one she chose. 

 

                           sometimes you can be right...dead right  

[Guest]

19 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

after his performance in that video...good riddance. he's not fit to wear a uniform. 

That was basically a nothingburger arrest. People yell and fight quite often during arrest. SHE CHOSE TO FIGHT, SCREAM, YELL, RESIST, AND CRY. A lot of dramatics, nothing more. You obviously have no police experience. 

Wubbles ultimately chose this result. MY complaint is that once she chose it, she should have accepted the results of her moral stand, not cry like a cunt. 

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[old indy]

16 hours ago, polaris550 said:

 

Yes, I said from day one, that they could have gotten a court order and gotten the blood. Why didn't she tell them that? The police should have also inquired if blood was drawn.  My contention is that Wubbles was not the trucker's lawyer, and like the Lieutenant said, if it was taken improperly, it would be quickly remedied. 

She resisted and yelled and made it more than it should have been. Everybody feels sorry for her, but she should have seen this was going south, and backed away. 

Social media will ruin the cop. 

I'm the only person in the USA that does not sympathize with her. 

Let him take the fucking blood, UNDER DOCUMENTED, WITNESSED PROTEST, then sue his ass off in court. 

That was the remedy.  

 

How can you not see that the police were trying to force the hospital to allow something that was illegal.  Making the police the wrongful party here.   It was the police that should have backed down.  They had NO grounds to move foward with the blood draw.  And even less of a case to arrest the nurse. 

They made a huge mistake  purposely escalating the situation while the nurse did all she could do to control the out of line cop.  

This is much like pointing the felonies that hillary Has committed to slinger.   

 

 

[T1R9sledder]

6 minutes ago, polaris550 said:

That was basically a nothingburger arrest. People yell and fight quite often during arrest. SHE CHOSE TO FIGHT, SCREAM, YELL, RESIST, AND CRY. A lot of dramatics, nothing more. You obviously have no police experience. 

Wubbles ultimately chose this result. MY complaint is that once she chose it, she should have accepted the results of her moral stand, not cry like a cunt. 

The cop was in the wrong. He should be fired and lose his pension. 

[Rigid1]

13 minutes ago, polaris550 said:

What did she do that she would be sued for, you cunt? She argued with the cop for ONE HOUR, telling him no, and showing him the documentation why. She had solid defense to any civil action. 

ummmmm, im just gona throw this out there but,  how about drawing his blood without consent???.. Despite what you might think, you just cant go taking blood from someone because you want it.. fuck you're a dipshit..

[ActionfigureJoe]

4 minutes ago, old indy said:

How can you not see that the police were trying to force the hospital to allow something that was illegal.  Making the police the wrongful party here.   It was the police that should have backed down.  They had NO grounds to move foward with the blood draw.  And even less of a case to arrest the nurse. 

They made a huge mistake  purposely escalating the situation while the nurse did all she could do to control the out of line cop.  

This is much like pointing the felonies that hillary Has committed to slinger.   

 

 

the cop also threatens to bring all the local transients to that hospital and take all the juicy, insurance ripe emergency detentions to another hospital.  a real piece of work he is. 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, old indy said:

How can you not see that the police were trying to force the hospital to allow something that was illegal.  Making the police the wrongful party here.   It was the police that should have backed down.  They had NO grounds to move foward with the blood draw.  And even less of a case to arrest the nurse. 

They made a huge mistake  purposely escalating the situation while the nurse did all she could do to control the out of line cop.  

This is much like pointing the felonies that hillary Has committed to slinger.   

 

 

What was ILLEGAL??? The officer was a CERTIFIeD PHLEBOTOMIST, who did this regularly. Wubbles was relying on a hospital POLICY to stop Payne. 

In Payne's mind  he DID have grounds.  ( CDL operator,  Implied Consent ). 

Payne was under DIRECT ORDERS to arrest Wubbles. The burden is on the Lieutenant to justify the arrest, not Payne. 

Believe it or not, courts usually side with the police, unless it is willful and egregious abuse on their part. 

I do not believe Payne will ever be found responsible civilly or guilty criminally. 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, T1R9sledder said:

The cop was in the wrong. He should be fired and lose his pension. 

A good cop is irreplaceable. You're talking as if he's a one year rookie. I don't think he's going anywhere, and if he does, it's because of the  FEMINIST DRIVEN  social media response, based on emotions. 

[Rod]

15 hours ago, polaris550 said:

OK, but the fuckin' cop is telling her,  " I'm either leaving with the vials or body in tow ".

What would a smart girl do, knowing that a fuming cop is gonna' haul her ass to jail?

A smart girl would say to herself, " I'll document this, and let this fucking asshole take the draw, and get him the fuck out of here ".  That's what a smart, common-sense girl would have done. 

Instead, she chose to challenge a cop that had been fuming with her for ONE HOUR!!!  Then, when he reacted, she resorted to female wailing and crying, instead of taking the arrest like an adult. 

You are arguing under the false pretence that police have ultimate authority. They do not. They must obey laws like everyone else 

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Rigid1 said:

ummmmm, im just gona throw this out there but,  how about drawing his blood without consent???.. Despite what you might think, you just cant go taking blood from someone because you want it.. fuck you're a dipshit..

The trucker could sue PAyne, I've said that from day one, you cunt-faced bitch. If Payne can justify why he drew the blood, the trucker will have no case. The results of the blood draw would be suppressed......end of story.  

[Highmark]

In the end I want to know the laws of the state regarding those holding a CDL and testing.   Either way I respect what she did.