Mileage Psycho Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 What kind of person/persons would not let a parent throw a hail mary to possibly save a kid???? Quote Charlie Gard's mom storms out of court, dad mouths 'evil' as new MRI scans revealed The mother of critically ill baby Charlie Gard stormed out of a British court on Friday and the boy's father angrily turned towards a hospital lawyer and mouthed the word "evil" after a new set of hospital scans were read in the controversial case, Sky News reported. Charlie's parents, Chris Gard and Connie Yates, had apparently not seen the newest MRI scan of their 11-month-old child, who suffers from mitochondrial depletion syndrome, and the Great Ormond Street Hospital lawyer said the documents made for "sad reading." "I'm very sorry. I didn't mean to cause distress," Barrister Katie Gollop said. The contentious court proceedings came as Charlie's parents continued their desperate battle to bring the baby to the United States for an experimental treatment. American doctors have agreed to treat Charlie but, so far, the Great Ormond doctors have objected to letting him go, believing his condition to be irreversible. His parents, however, believe the experimental treatment, which has never been tested on a human with Charlie’s exact condition, could restore the child's muscular and brain functions. Judge Nicholas Francis said Charlie's parents can present new evidence in a new round of hearings early next week. He said the evidence must be new and relevant to the case. American neurology expert Dr. Michio Hirano, who designed the experimental treatment in question, will also be allowed to present more evidence in court on Monday. Friday's court proceeding came as Gard and Yates released a new photo this week that they say proves the 11-month-old is not blind, as doctors claim. The photo showed Charlie hooked up to a life support machine in his hospital bed with his eyes open and a toy being held in front of him. The parents said they shared the picture to dispute doctors’ claims that Charlie cannot see, the Mirror UK reported. It's not clear how much longer Charlie would live without the treatment. The parents have received support from Pope Francis and President Trump, as well as some members of the U.S. Congress. The Associated Press contributed to this report. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/charlie-gards-mom-storms-out-of-court-dad-mouths-evil-as-new-mri-scans-revealed/ar-AAoyMxU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 22, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 22, 2017 Why is it that the the British doctors have the authority to not allow the parents to seek treatment here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 and you want the government in control of your health care in the US ? ok got it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted July 22, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 22, 2017 12 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: and you want the government in control of your health care in the US ? ok got it He probably would not have insurance in the US Besides....how come countries with UHC do not try and repeal it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, SnowRider said: He probably would not have insurance in the US Besides....how come countries with UHC do not try and repeal it? He probably nice way to start a false argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, SnowRider said: He probably would not have insurance in the US Besides....how come countries with UHC do not try and repeal it? His parents have raised $1.6 million dollars for surgery so money is not the issue, it's the parents choice not fucking some bureaucrat. Edited July 22, 2017 by Mileage Psycho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: His parents have raised $1.6 million dollars for surgery so money is not the issue, it's the parents choice not fucking some bureaucrat. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: His parents have raised $1.6 million dollars for surgery so money is not the issue, it's the parents choice not fucking some bureaucrat. it is when the people give up there right to decide there own medical options so the government will take care of them . all good intentions come at price and people tend not to remember that when fighting to give there rights away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 33 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: His parents have raised $1.6 million dollars for surgery so money is not the issue, it's the parents choice not fucking some bureaucrat. Don't let the facts get in the way for dipshit Snowbevis!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Ez ryder said: it is when the people give up there right to decide there own medical options so the government will take care of them . all good intentions come at price and people tend not to remember that when fighting to give there rights away Yea, at least in the US you have the right to be overcharged or denied coverage. Who would want to give that dream up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 "It takes a village." Welcome to your village. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 22, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Yea, at least in the US you have the right to be overcharged or denied coverage. Who would want to give that dream up? Under your system of Healthcare would these parents be able to bring their child here for treatment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 22, 2017 Gold Member Share Posted July 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: Yea, at least in the US you have the right to be overcharged or denied coverage. Who would want to give that dream up? Nobody is denied services at a hospital if needed based on ability to pay. You may not get all the bells and whistles but you can go to the hospital. also we have universal healthcare... it's called Obamacare and if our healthcare is bad now and expensive it's is the fault of the last admin that put our current system in place. if the us can fix/keep alive this kid that will be egg on the face of advocates for socialist healthcare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 22, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 22, 2017 Obamacare is most definitely not Universal Healthcare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, Biggie Smails said: Under your system of Healthcare would these parents be able to bring their child here for treatment? I don't see why not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 22, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, ICEMAN! said: I don't see why not I was just curious because the fact that the British doctors won't let the child come here for treatment here surprised me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: What kind of person/persons would not let a parent throw a hail mary to possibly save a kid???? why would you hold out false hope. part of our med expense issue is our failure to recognize when treatment is no longer reasonable. Sad for the family but the kids going to die with or without dragging it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Biggie Smails said: Obamacare is most definitely not Universal Healthcare. if you are poor it is . but then if you were poor before you had coverage . only diff now is lower middle class can no longer afford coverage and more people are considered poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Angry ginger said: why would you hold out false hope. part of our med expense issue is our failure to recognize when treatment is no longer reasonable. Sad for the family but the kids going to die with or without dragging it out. yes that is huge and people make bad choices as there loved on is on there way out . that is why it is best to have that paperwork in pace for your self so your loved ones don't piss your life savings away to prolong your life by 2 weeks or a day of misery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, ICEMAN! said: I don't see why not because the government has not yet taken control no matter how bad you want them to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 15 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: His parents have raised $1.6 million dollars for surgery so money is not the issue, it's the parents choice not fucking some bureaucrat. Agreed. This is lunacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 23 hours ago, SnowRider said: He probably would not have insurance in the US Besides....how come countries with UHC do not try and repeal it? so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oleroule Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 23 hours ago, Ez ryder said: and you want the government in control of your health care in the US ? ok got it you're not allowed to think that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 On 7/22/2017 at 10:39 AM, Angry ginger said: why would you hold out false hope. part of our med expense issue is our failure to recognize when treatment is no longer reasonable. Sad for the family but the kids going to die with or without dragging it out. The people have the money and if it's false hope so be it. The treatment is experimental so why not roll the dice, being experimental we do not know if it will work or not and at the very least perhap something could be learned to advance treatment of the disease in the future. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted July 23, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 23, 2017 24 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: The people have the money and if it's false hope so be it. The treatment is experimental so why not roll the dice, being experimental we do not know if it will work or not and at the very least perhap something could be learned to advance treatment of the disease in the future. Well said and anybody in their position should be allowed to bring their child here for treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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