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EBEAR

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I have no interest or parts supply to go through the process of fine tuning clutching . I am quite sure that my 24 RXC has more potential and would like to purchase a good trail oriented flatland kit . Finding a kit seems to be problematic . Speedworx ( coming soon ) and the few others seem to have had kits out long before they had any opportunity to test ( not a fan ) BD seems to only suggest weights when allot of the people with a decent amount of knowledge - experience suggest the helix is wrong for the sled . I understand that there is a limited  amount of people and miles put on but does anyone have a decent , tested setup ?

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The chassis lacks flatland high performance efficiency due to the belt drive...If the best aftermarket clutch kit tuners cant find a viable performance enhancement that should tell you something...Contact some of these companies and ask them point black if they develop their clutch kits with a CHASSIS DYNO, along with seat of the pants field testing...If they tell you that they dont utilize a C.Dyno....Check that company off the list and move on...It's unfortunate that you spent upwards of $20,000.00 on a 600cc sled and your disapointed in its trail performance...

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1 hour ago, SlugsOnSleds said:

The chassis lacks flatland high performance efficiency due to the belt drive...If the best aftermarket clutch kit tuners cant find a viable performance enhancement that should tell you something...Contact some of these companies and ask them point black if they develop their clutch kits with a CHASSIS DYNO, along with seat of the pants field testing...If they tell you that they dont utilize a C.Dyno....Check that company off the list and move on...It's unfortunate that you spent upwards of $20,000.00 on a 600cc sled and your disapointed in its trail performance...

At no point did you come close to answering the question being asked.

But thanks your useless info about track dynos (lol) and letting us know that anyone looking to improve performance is disappointed with their machine.   And that you're poor.  

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I spoke with Terry from Thunder Products Clutching at Hay Days and was very impressed.  They did probably more flatland testing than anyone else.  I would recommend giving them a call.

Don’t even bother with their web site, calling them is much better.

@EBEAR - I agree on your assessment of the other vendors.  I have no doubt they will give customers their best effort, but all except TPC have been hurt by lack of snow for testing.
 

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4 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

In the Werx and coming soon:

  • ZR 600 1.25-1.35" 0-5,000' Clutch Kit
  • 0-5,000' Stock Pipe ECU Flash
  • 5,000'+ Stock Pipe ECU Flash
  • 0-5,000’ Pipe Mod
  • 0-5,000' Stage 2 ECU Flash

https://speedwerx.com/snow-performance/arctic-cat/2024-zr-riot-m-600-catalyst.html

You forgot the air box mod 

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3 minutes ago, Not greg b said:

You forgot the air box mod 

I just copy/pasted what was on their site... looks like the only clutching they could test and dial in last winter was out west where they had snow.  :(

 

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48 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

I just copy/pasted what was on their site... looks like the only clutching they could test and dial in last winter was out west where they had snow.  :(

 

Get your hole saw ready. The air box mod is going to be next big thing 

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It's still looks to me that for those of us who have no patience ( or skills ) for clutching that a flatland kit is a wait till mid winter and hope for some testing . I have found nothing available other than speedwerx 1.5 - 1.75 track option for flatland and I'm not sure what the difference would be on a 1.3 cobra . I don't mind spending the money for a good kit but not only to find " oops " after more testing this is better .

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Frankly, @EBEAR I'd tend to wait as well. I know that there's a ton more fine tuning to be done to clutch the 600 and I'd rather wait for others to buy the various kits from performance shops, then get their feedback before choosing a trail set up of my own. I too am skeptical that anyone got enough trail testing last season to have it truly fine tuned.  

My EASY temporary Band-Aid fix for the moment to address the over rev issue will be to choose a stickier belt to see if we can pull down the over rev by a couple hundred RPM's. That Band-Aid will carry me thru this season until there's a more definitive way to dial in the 600's trail clutching.

 

  

 

 

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On 11/5/2024 at 8:59 AM, EBEAR said:

It's still looks to me that for those of us who have no patience ( or skills ) for clutching that a flatland kit is a wait till mid winter and hope for some testing . I have found nothing available other than speedwerx 1.5 - 1.75 track option for flatland and I'm not sure what the difference would be on a 1.3 cobra . I don't mind spending the money for a good kit but not only to find " oops " after more testing this is better .

Call Thunder Products Clutching.  Everyone else was stuck at higher elevations last year and needs a good season to get their flatland kits right.  But, Thunder Products have a setup that's pretty dialed in - they did a lot of work with the racers last year and are well ahead of the aftermarket.  Before you decide to wait, give them a call and actually talk to them in person to see what they can do right now.

I don't have a relationship with them and have nothing to gain by recommending them, other than just trying to help you.

906-484-1650

sales@thunderproductsclutching.com

 

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I talked to Thunder products a couple weeks ago about my procross 600 that has an adapt. They have something in production for the catalyst (that would also help my sled). They said it was a month out then so I'd guess it will be available in a couple weeks from now. They described what they are doing but I'd call and get specifics from them.

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