Not greg b Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 They are finally re calling those team clutches that “never had a problem” https://www.cpsc.gov/Recalls/2024/Arctic-Cat-Recalls-Snowmobiles-Due-to-Laceration-Hazard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 No clutch, just a heavy guard, I posted pics of a while ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p51mstg Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 One of the disqualifying factors is a clutch kit. My serial number is "MT", not "NT", so it appears the Riots don't count? Weird.... Even if they did, I'd probably pass on it. When I sell or trade, I'll put the old Team clutch back on, and will worry about it then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 13 minutes ago, p51mstg said: One of the disqualifying factors is a clutch kit. My serial number is "MT", not "NT", so it appears the Riots don't count? Weird.... Even if they did, I'd probably pass on it. When I sell or trade, I'll put the old Team clutch back on, and will worry about it then. I wonder how picky the are being with the inspections 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 1 hour ago, krom said: No clutch, just a heavy guard, I posted pics of a while ago Are you seeing many coming back with cracks ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 52 minutes ago, Not greg b said: I wonder how picky the are being with the inspections Up to the dealer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 52 minutes ago, Not greg b said: Are you seeing many coming back with cracks ? Replaced plenty, everyone in trf has known it's a problem for years and years, they were doing good will till textron canceled it and refused to do anything about it. I've been telling customers to contact the cpsc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK440 Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 24 minutes ago, krom said: Replaced plenty, everyone in trf has known it's a problem for years and years, they were doing good will till textron canceled it and refused to do anything about it. I've been telling customers to contact the cpsc Great. You are single-handedly going to put the Textron snow division out of business. Hope you are happy with yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Actually Textron is doing that. Krom is keeping them honest. Pathetic business behavior on Textron's part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 51 minutes ago, AK440 said: Great. You are single-handedly going to put the Textron snow division out of business. Hope you are happy with yourself. Entire thing is bullshit, and should have been a recall years ago.. IMHO cheaper for the gvt to force a recal, than to lose a suit when someone gets killed. Edited May 2 by krom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnstang Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 Oh God, the sky is falling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted May 3 Share Posted May 3 seriously, who really needs their entire left foot or both eyeballs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 21 hours ago, mnstang said: Oh God, the sky is falling! its 5 or 6 years late, and they aren't even taking care of it fully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK440 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 On 5/2/2024 at 8:38 PM, mnstang said: Oh God, the sky is falling! Figures, only you would defend an OEM for using junk, Chinasium fragmentation style clutches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 2 hours ago, AK440 said: Figures, only you would defend an OEM for using junk, Chinasium fragmentation style clutches. On 5/2/2024 at 3:51 PM, AK440 said: Great. You are single-handedly going to put the Textron snow division out of business. Hope you are happy with yourself. As did you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK440 Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 6 hours ago, Deephaven said: As did you. Poor Cockhaven, they had to create the sarcasm emoji just for him. Next time I’ll be sure to include it as I forgot how stupid some (you) members of this board are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted May 4 Share Posted May 4 On 5/2/2024 at 3:25 PM, krom said: Replaced plenty, everyone in trf has known it's a problem for years and years, they were doing good will till textron canceled it and refused to do anything about it. I've been telling customers to contact the cpsc The clutch that was a joint partnership design between Arctic Cat and Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 sure it was.. A joint venture that didn't have AC markings anyplace on it, used 0 legacy AC tuning components, and completely identical/parts interchange to the team clutches used by pre buy out textron, Deere, and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleflipper Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 3 hours ago, krom said: sure it was.. A joint venture that didn't have AC markings anyplace on it, used 0 legacy AC tuning components, and completely identical/parts interchange to the team clutches used by pre buy out textron, Deere, and others. Like Poo RZR fire issue, Cat knew these were an issue. They knew this at the factory and now rather than fix the problem put a band aid on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krom Posted May 5 Share Posted May 5 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tripleflipper said: Like Poo RZR fire issue, Textron knew these were an issue. They knew this at the factory and now rather than fix the problem put a band aid on it. Kinda, but unlike poo, this hasn't been going on for a decade or more, and definitely hasn't immolated any people 1 But customers soon reported that plastic panels between the passengers and the engine were melting and smoking. At a meeting in 2011, the company’s head of product safety told executives that a recall was necessary after he reviewed “between eight and 15” reports of heat damage, according to his testimony in a 2017 wrongful-death lawsuit. “It was my heartfelt feeling and belief that the vehicle should be recalled,” the safety director, Kenneth d’Entremont, said in a deposition. Instead, Polaris issued a service bulletin instructing dealers to affix an aluminum sheet to damaged panels. Without a recall, the company was not required to inform customers or the Consumer Product Safety Commission of the fires. Mr. d’Entremont testified that he had been excluded from future safety meetings. Kenneth D’Entremont, a safety director for Polaris, left the company in 2012. “It was no longer possible for me to continue working there ethically,” he said. 2 11-year-old Keylee Latham. During a family visit with friends in Texas in July 2014, Keylee rode in a 2010 Polaris Ranger while tagging along on a trip to take trash to a dumpster. The vehicle tipped over, pinning her beneath it as the ROV began leaking gasoline. Then the ROV and Keylee caught fire. She was rescued after a neighbor used his truck to push the Ranger off her body Keylee suffered third- and fourth-degree burns over 60 percent of her body. Eventually part of her right leg and her left foot had to be amputated, according to the suit, which was settled out of court. The suit claimed Polaris knew there was a danger of gas leaking in a rollover and that it should have installed a valve or taken another preventive measure. It also claimed that in 2007 a Polaris fuel-systems design engineer asked the company to test devices that would prevent fuel spills if a vehicle tipped over 3 On July 4, 2016 Baylee was riding with a cousin in the back seat of a rented Polaris RZR 900, while her father and grandfather sat in the front. BJ Hoaldridge, Baylee’s father was turning the ATV, going about 5 mph, when it tipped on its side. Initially, he didn’t believe there was any issue. But then, flames started to spread. Everyone was able to get out immediately, except Baylee, who was trapped in her seat and engulfed in flames. “I took her under the arm and just did everything I could to hold her out of the flame, and then grandpa came and saved her, unhooked her seat belt,” BJ Hoaldridge said. “At night, I’ll never forget the screaming. Ever. Grandpa can’t either.” Baylee was rushed to the hospital at the University of Utah with third-degree burns to 65 percent of her body. The injuries were so severe they led to an infection, which forced doctors to remove her large intestine. Over the next four months, Baylee had 27 surgeries including skin grafts, surgical removal of infected tissue and other treatments. she passed away in November '16 after her life support was turned off 4 September 2016 in Utah. Two Destiny Dixon and Deborah Swann were killed when their Polaris Ranger tipped over, sparking a fire. “A large and lethal amount of gasoline saturated the area around the occupants, who were restrained in the vehicle by seat belts, and a large fire ignited,” according to a suit filed in Minnesota last year against Polaris by the families of Destiny Dixon and Deborah Swann. ‘Ranger was completely consumed’ “Within a few seconds, the Ranger was completely consumed in extremely hot and high flames,” the suit said. It added that the women were burned to death before they could release their seat belt 5 But minutes into the first ride, with Steven Groves, 23, in the passenger seat, chaos erupted. “Steven yelled, ‘Fire!’” Mr. Bingham said. “All I saw was orange.” After struggling to unbuckle his harness, Mr. Bingham escaped with severe burns. Mr. Groves, however, was trapped as flames covered him. Not until his harness melted did he fall to the ground, his body still on fire. He died the next day. Mr. Bingham’s 2017 RZR, which caught fire in Idaho in May, had received the prescribed repair after the 2018 recall as of 2019 Polaris has settled at least three lawsuits related to fires in its side-by-sides, and at least 11 more lawsuits are pending Edited May 5 by krom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted May 6 Author Share Posted May 6 My friend’s rzr burst into flames and burnt down his cabin. I can’t remember if Polaris did anything about it or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 15 hours ago, krom said: sure it was.. A joint venture that didn't have AC markings anyplace on it, used 0 legacy AC tuning components, and completely identical/parts interchange to the team clutches used by pre buy out textron, Deere, and others. Arctic cat sure seemed proud at the time to be part of the design of the clutch with Team. Even advertised of their design involvement. Was this just another bad decision by Arctic Cat management? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 The quality coming out of Minnesota these days is unacceptable. No wonder Doo is leading in sales by a huge margin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrinkly balls Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 On 5/6/2024 at 8:11 AM, awful knawful said: The quality coming out of Minnesota these days is unacceptable. No wonder Doo is leading in sales by a huge margin. Didn't you have your chain case apart on your brand new daffy before the start of the season. Now that's quality!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleflipper Posted May 8 Share Posted May 8 Doo has it's own issues. Bought a 22 RXT and the steering shroud out of the box had a gouge in it which the dealer had to order. A year later one of the top side panels discolored for some reason and they wouldn't even warranty it. Of course the machine was 14 months old. First time BRP purchase and they won't honor warranty, blamed the customer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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