Bontz Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 I heard this on the radio this morning, during my drive to work. I shouldn't be surprised though - typical MN bullshit (and I'm not even a smoker). The Minneapolis City Council is considering adding new rules and restrictions on sales of tobacco products, including a minimum price for cigarettes and other products that could be the highest in the nation. The changes under consideration include a minimum price of $15 per pack of cigarettes or package of four or more cigars, or for certain-size packages of snuff or snus. The changes to the city’s existing tobacco products ordinance also would bar price discounts or coupons for tobacco products, and — starting Dec. 1 — ban free samples of tobacco products, and ban smoking of “samples” inside any retail establishment licensed to sell tobacco products. The changes would also increase the penalties for businesses that violate the ordinance — including moving from a $200 fine to a $500 fine for a first violation. The proposal was forwarded by the council’s Business, Housing and Zoning Committee on Tuesday without recommendation. The full council is set to consider the measure next week. Evalyn Carbrey with the city’s health department told council members at Tuesday’s public hearing that, based on the department’s research, a minimum price of $15 per pack of cigarettes would appear to be the highest in the nation. Carbrey clarified that the minimum price is not a tax. “So the extra income will go back to the store, which we believe is helpful because it can soften the blow to retailers if they might potentially be losing some sales with a minimum price floor,” Carbrey said. “Any extra revenue goes back to the retailer.” Backers of the changes say the higher minimum price and ban on discounts will be an incentive for current smokers to quit, and for youth to not start smoking. In 2021, the St. Paul City Council passed tobacco restrictions that set a minimum $10 price on a pack of cigarettes. But the latest proposal in Minneapolis — specifically the ban on sampling — also drew speakers in opposition at Tuesday’s public hearing. Some raised concerns that barring indoor smoking at cigar bars or hookah bars would harm important community gathering places. And the owner of two stores that sell tobacco in Minneapolis raised concerns that a higher minimum tobacco price in the city would send customers to retailers in other cities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Dumb. Wouldn’t be hard to just get it outside city limits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Also Minneapolis 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 58 minutes ago, Not greg b said: Also Minneapolis The various MN crime pages are pretty hopping right now. It must have been one wild ass weekend in the Shitties this last weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not greg b Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: The various MN crime pages are pretty hopping right now. It must have been one wild ass weekend in the Shitties this last weekend. I guess it has been warm there. Passing cigarette laws won’t do anything other than get them more money. They need ignor the real problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Working on the really important issues they have… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Discover Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Discover Wisconsin Will be for the next week… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Should be $700 a pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonlafon1 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 50 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Discover Wisconsin Come over and buy our cigs! Because western WI residents be coming for your THC! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 39 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Should be $700 a pack. Give the money to a child cancer fund. Obviously those that smoke don’t care about their health. They also don’t care about the burden having a stroke puts on society. So take their money and give it to someone that does want to live. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 (edited) 18 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Give the money to a child cancer fund. Obviously those that smoke don’t care about their health. They also don’t care about the burden having a stroke puts on society. So take their money and give it to someone that does want to live. Most of my family died from smoking, my mom at 62 and my sister at 63, many other relatives died young too. Dad & I never smoked, he died at 85. As most here know smoking was promoted years back even on TV, magazines & even some newspapers, it was pretty much considered ok to smoke. As a kid I used to Puke out the car window when my mom smoked in the car, that smoke has an aweful stink to it made me sick. Edited April 19 by XCR1250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 smokers and drinkers actually pay quite a bit in sin tax... but not the obese fucks eating McDonald's and scarfing down donuts every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 minute ago, XCR1250 said: Most of my family died from smoking, my mom at 62 and my sister at 66, many other relatives died young too. Dad & I never smoked, he died at 85. As most here know smoking was promoted years back even on TV, magazines & even some newspapers, it was pretty much considered ok to smoke. As a kid I used to Puke out the car window when my mom smoked in the car, that smoke has an aweful stink to it made me sick. Most people that smoke don’t die. They end up in nursing care lingering after a stroke or heart event. Fortunately the anti smoke movement of social marketing during the “80’s and “90’s has proven very effective in reducing smoking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 14 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Most people that smoke don’t die. They end up in nursing care lingering after a stroke or heart event. Fortunately the anti smoke movement of social marketing during the “80’s and “90’s has proven very effective in reducing smoking. I edited my post..my sister died at 63. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 9 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: I edited my post..my sister died at 63. Dad died at 53 from a 3rd stroke. Heavy smoker. Mom died at 63 from stomach cancer. Heavy smoker. So far I’ve outlived both. My sister died recently at 82. Non smoker. She lived a good life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 I can relate to anyone who hated traveling with a parent that smoked. We traveled at least once a month (3+ hours) to my grandma's, when I was a kid, and my dad probably smoked half a pack. The old cracking of the window did little to help get the smoke out of the car ... I hated it. The only other person in my family to smoke is my brother, and that's mostly because he picked up the habit after serving in the USAF for 22 years. My dad is now 82, and has quit smoking since his triple bypass a few years ago. He started when he was 12, so he smoked a LONG time. Despite that, he's in relatively good health and still pretty darn active. As far as the OP goes, I just think it's bullshit ... plain and simple. What's next, booze? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 5 minutes ago, Bontz said: What's next, booze? And at the same fucking time they’re trying to figure out how to make marijuana a main stay… not that I’m complaining, I just think it’s funny. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry 976 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 18 hours ago, Bontz said: I heard this on the radio this morning, during my drive to work. I shouldn't be surprised though - typical MN bullshit (and I'm not even a smoker). The Minneapolis City Council is considering adding new rules and restrictions on sales of tobacco products, including a minimum price for cigarettes and other products that could be the highest in the nation. The changes under consideration include a minimum price of $15 per pack of cigarettes or package of four or more cigars, or for certain-size packages of snuff or snus. The changes to the city’s existing tobacco products ordinance also would bar price discounts or coupons for tobacco products, and — starting Dec. 1 — ban free samples of tobacco products, and ban smoking of “samples” inside any retail establishment licensed to sell tobacco products. The changes would also increase the penalties for businesses that violate the ordinance — including moving from a $200 fine to a $500 fine for a first violation. The proposal was forwarded by the council’s Business, Housing and Zoning Committee on Tuesday without recommendation. The full council is set to consider the measure next week. Evalyn Carbrey with the city’s health department told council members at Tuesday’s public hearing that, based on the department’s research, a minimum price of $15 per pack of cigarettes would appear to be the highest in the nation. Carbrey clarified that the minimum price is not a tax. “So the extra income will go back to the store, which we believe is helpful because it can soften the blow to retailers if they might potentially be losing some sales with a minimum price floor,” Carbrey said. “Any extra revenue goes back to the retailer.” Backers of the changes say the higher minimum price and ban on discounts will be an incentive for current smokers to quit, and for youth to not start smoking. In 2021, the St. Paul City Council passed tobacco restrictions that set a minimum $10 price on a pack of cigarettes. But the latest proposal in Minneapolis — specifically the ban on sampling — also drew speakers in opposition at Tuesday’s public hearing. Some raised concerns that barring indoor smoking at cigar bars or hookah bars would harm important community gathering places. And the owner of two stores that sell tobacco in Minneapolis raised concerns that a higher minimum tobacco price in the city would send customers to retailers in other cities. Local Casino they're 15 or 16 bucks a pack and 10 or 11 in the stores for name brands like cowboy killers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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