Or?

 

15 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

As opposed to the whirlwind of success Joe has had?

Neither were worth a fuck, and we are gonna be stuck with one or the other again.

Neal

1 hour ago, ckf said:

NH isn't going to make a difference in the nomination as much as it will show which direction the independents are leaning. Trump can still win NH but do poorly among the large percentage of independents in NH.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-primary-r/2024/new-hampshire/

 

This was an interesting read this am.

 

 

29 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

As opposed to the whirlwind of success Joe has had?

As opposed to 2 new people on both sides.

27 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Neither were worth a fuck, and we are gonna be stuck with one or the other again.

Neal

One will start to dismantle the deep state, and one will add to it.  C’mon Neal.

20 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

There will always be negatives one can claim for economy I guess.  It will never be perfect under any president.

Neal

No doubt but when it comes to elections the state of the economy is huge.   Not maybe as huge as it once was before all the identity politics and what not when Carville said "its the economy stupid." 

9 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

One will start to dismantle the deep state, and one will add to it.  C’mon Neal.

Thats gullibility at its finest.

Trump gives zero shits for the average Joe like you and I.

Neal

 

9 minutes ago, Highmark said:

No doubt but when it comes to elections the state of the economy is huge.   Not maybe as huge as it once was before all the identity politics and what not when Carville said "its the economy stupid." 

That was back when we had a choice between reasonable candidates and policies.  Each side has gone off the rails.

Neal

Just now, NaturallyAspirated said:

That was back when we had a choice between reasonable candidates and policies.  Each side has gone off the rails.

Neal

Disagree....the right has not move right while the left has leaped left.   Many of Trump's policies are actually very much in the center.  

Just now, Highmark said:

Disagree....the right has not move right while the left has leaped left.   Many of Trump's policies are actually very much in the center.  

Come on,  for years abortion was on the gop wish list, but they were smart enough to know it was political suicide.  Those days have passed 

Just now, steve from amherst said:

Come on,  for years abortion was on the gop wish list, but they were smart enough to know it was political suicide.  Those days have passed 

It wasn't doable until they had the opportunity to appoint enough SC justices.   I really don't think past GOP Presidents would have put in justices not willing to look at Roe.  If Abortion is one they stuck to what they have always wanted then is it really moving right?   Maybe so but the GOP has not moved R as far as the Dem's have moved L. 

2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Disagree....the right has not move right while the left has leaped left.   Many of Trump's policies are actually very much in the center.  

I disagree.  The left has moved left, and the right has moved left.  Spending is zero concern with the Republicans now it seems, and hammering towards a balanced budget is a pipe dream.  

Neal

4 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

I disagree.  The left has moved left, and the right has moved left.  Spending is zero concern with the Republicans now it seems, and hammering towards a balanced budget is a pipe dream.  

Neal

Basically what I said.  

53 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Neither were worth a fuck, and we are gonna be stuck with one or the other again.

Neal

The thing is Trump is two different subjects. On one hand there is the rally guy who sends mean tweets and the other side is the actual policy choices. Policy wise Trump is considerably better than Biden. 

47 minutes ago, Steve753 said:

As opposed to 2 new people on both sides.

Awww buyers remorse.

1 hour ago, Steve753 said:

That will happen if it wasn't Trump. It really is that simple.

Some of you are more concerned about trump then the actual election and the way this country is going.  Get past that.

28 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Disagree....the right has not move right while the left has leaped left.   Many of Trump's policies are actually very much in the center.  

Trumps policies are only to put money in his pocket. He's a selfish prick.

1 minute ago, Mainecat said:

Trumps policies are only to put money in his pocket. He's a selfish prick.

That is funny coming from a Biden supporter....hell Joe has sold US foreign policy for hard cash.

16 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said:

The thing is Trump is two different subjects. On one hand there is the rally guy who sends mean tweets and the other side is the actual policy choices. Policy wise Trump is considerably better than Biden. 

That's part of the issue, he's such a narcissist that he can't help but toot his own horn whenever and wherever he can. People see that and forget what he actually did and just see the moron tweeting or talking. He's his own worst enemy.

3 minutes ago, racer254 said:

Some of you are more concerned about trump than the actual election and the way this country is going.  Get past that.

Neither Trump nor Biden is putting forth a decent path for the country.

Neal

45 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

One will start to dismantle the deep state, and one will add to it.  C’mon Neal.

Trump is the only one who will do it.  The rest are status quos.

Argentina's new President gets what's happening.

It's mind boggling just how dumb people are and still think this is about Dems vs Repugs.

 

 

 

Just now, HSR said:

That's part of the issue, he's such a narcissist that he can't help but toot his own horn whenever and wherever he can. People see that and forget what he actually did and just see the moron tweeting or talking. He's his own worst enemy.

Yes but policy wise he is pragmatic. I think he does some of the wild stuff just for his entertainment. But again his policy seems to be more geared towards US long term success. And some of it is not that conservative.

2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Neither Trump nor Biden is putting forth a decent path for the country.

Neal

You're a fucking idiot.

39 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Thats gullibility at its finest.

Trump gives zero shits for the average Joe like you and I.

Neal

 

OK so pick Biden. It’s A or B.

7 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

OK so pick Biden. It’s A or B.

Biden doesn’t even know there is citizens though!

I’m picking C.  I’m not voting for either Trump or Biden.

Neal

Just now, NaturallyAspirated said:

Biden doesn’t even know there is citizens though!

I’m picking C.  I’m not voting for either Trump or Biden.

Neal

Well, I guess thankfully you know that’s a wasted vote.  I don’t know how anyone could even want to give a chance of this administration another four years.