Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted December 17, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 17, 2023 On 12/16/2023 at 1:31 PM, Mainecat said: How do they propose to pay for it? Pay for not taking my own money? Lol Time to give the middle class a tax break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Ask 100 people in a room to say yes or no to a new govt program. Then give them $1,000. Tell them they can have the program, but have to pay for it with the $1,000................................................................................................................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted December 17, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) Lol at some being champions of people keeping more of their own money. What a bunch of fucking hypocrites!!!! Edited December 17, 2023 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 1 hour ago, BOHICA said: Lol at some being champions of people keeping more of their own money. What a bunch of fucking hypocrites!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 Look close at the forum members arguing against this. They blantantly show their affiliation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Liberal ass bandaid. If the tax code is broken fix it Making it more complicated with exceptions is absurd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 hours ago, racer254 said: Look close at the forum members arguing against this. They blantantly show their affiliation Yeah they are responsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoo Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 (edited) https://www.usdebtclock.org/ 34 Trillion debt for you, 1.2 trillion for us. If the stupid spending stops, dumb regulations get curtailed and the general douchbaggery of government ends, then I think people would have a different opinion. Income and consumption taxes are far and away the biggest source of taxation, and unfortunately will continue to be for the future. Edited December 18, 2023 by Voodoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Mainecat said: Yeah they are responsible. Why are they constantly against working class taxpayers keeping the money they earn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Why do you support odd one off bandaids instead of fixing the actual situation? Our tax law is insane, fucked up, unfair and needs reform. This doesn't do anything but further complicate it and adds another loophole to evade taxes that are part of the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Deephaven said: Why do you support odd one off bandaids instead of fixing the actual situation? Our tax law is insane, fucked up, unfair and needs reform. This doesn't do anything but further complicate it and adds another loophole to evade taxes that are part of the law. Which part should be fixed and how do you propose to do it. I agree our tax laws need to be fixed, but this is a start and it directly effects the mid and lower class workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, racer254 said: Which part should be fixed and how do you propose to do it. I agree our tax laws need to be fixed, but this is a start and it directly effects the mid and lower class workers. A start isn't shit. Need to actually reform things. That starts with spending. At this point without reducing spending you are going to have to increase taxes as our debt is growing. That is absurd. Amusingly if this were proposed by the Dems, and it is very akin to the shit they pull, you'd be horribly against it. There is one positive aspect and that is encouragement for those that work harder to keep more of their money versus their normal tax base...but at the same time that is a helluva a slippery slope as it will encourage cheating and lying to get around paying taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted December 18, 2023 Author Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, Deephaven said: A start isn't shit. Need to actually reform things. That starts with spending. At this point without reducing spending you are going to have to increase taxes as our debt is growing. That is absurd. Amusingly if this were proposed by the Dems, and it is very akin to the shit they pull, you'd be horribly against it. There is one positive aspect and that is encouragement for those that work harder to keep more of their money versus their normal tax base...but at the same time that is a helluva a slippery slope as it will encourage cheating and lying to get around paying taxes. Show me one example of this proposed by the dems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 14 hours ago, Rod said: How Deephaven wakes every morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 This isn't D vs R for fuck sakes. It is about solving a problem. Taking a party line will result in stalemate. Better question is show me where either side has proposed a reduction in spending that would allow a lower tax burden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 Just now, DriftBusta said: How Deephaven wakes every morning. And this is your first post. Must suck to wake up so insecure about yourself that lashing out about sharts is the first thing you think of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, Deephaven said: And this is your first post. Must suck to wake up so insecure about yourself that lashing out about sharts is the first thing you think of. Don't overthink it. I just think you're a fucking douchebag blowhard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 27 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: How Deephaven wakes every morning. Fax! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 22 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Don't overthink it. I just think you're a fucking douchebag blowhard. Definitely one of those that’s very mid level IQ but thinks they’re a genius they stick out like a sore thumb. News is directed at mid levels and if they constantly believe the media narratives then well… bad news for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rod said: Definitely one of those that’s very mid level IQ but thinks they’re a genius Oh the irony here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, HSR said: Oh the irony here You might want to Google what irony means cause that made no sense tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Rod said: You might want to Google what irony means cause that made no sense tbh So you think doubling down is the right move here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, HSR said: So you think doubling down is the right move here You seem to think it works for you lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 51 minutes ago, racer254 said: Why are they constantly against working class taxpayers keeping the money they earn? They usually have a way to pay for the cuts or programs unlike the republicans who just chop taxes and don’t have any plan to replace the revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 48 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Don't overthink it. I just think you're a fucking douchebag blowhard. Poor Woolie. I make him feel bad. Whaaa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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