NaturallyAspirated Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 7 hours ago, ACE said: Coal is stored solar energy Sure two steps removed from direct capture. We should be harnessing solar directly and supplementing via removed level sources. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_zrt Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I like the experts that have never worked in any of the energy or renewable sector. The internet will tell you what you want to hear and make you look like an expert. Bottom line, the technological breakthrough hasn't happened yet. That doesn't mean you stop trying, but it does mean you don't try to act what we have currently in renewable energy works. LIO BAT=NOT THE ANSWER, WIND=NOT THE ANSWER, SOLAR=CURRENTLY NOT THE ANSWER, TESLA=NOT THE ANSWER 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2700 Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) Need more natural gas plants that can throttle up or down depending on demand.also need cheaper ways to store wind and solar energy to use when it’s dark or no wind. Edited August 28, 2023 by X2700 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 8 hours ago, BOHICA said: Takes a 1 pound of coal to make 1 kwh. Every kWh produced by other means eliminates 1 lb of coal being burned. Stop driving that faggot electric car and we won't have to burn coal to charge it. You are part of the problem ffs. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 1 hour ago, joe_zrt said: I like the experts that have never worked in any of the energy or renewable sector. The internet will tell you what you want to hear and make you look like an expert. Bottom line, the technological breakthrough hasn't happened yet. That doesn't mean you stop trying, but it does mean you don't try to act what we have currently in renewable energy works. LIO BAT=NOT THE ANSWER, WIND=NOT THE ANSWER, SOLAR=CURRENTLY NOT THE ANSWER, TESLA=NOT THE ANSWER 😂 A combination is, solar, wind, hydro, nuke, carbons. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, X2700 said: Need more natural gas plants that can throttle up or down depending on demand.also need cheaper ways to store wind and solar energy to use women it’s dark or no wind. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Natural-Gas-Fills-The-Gap-As-Renewable-Power-Falters.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akvanden Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 It’s confusing. If you don’t trust government, why do you want to be dependent on your local municipalities? Sure solar and other forms aren’t perfect (but will continue to get better), but wouldn’t you love to be energy independent? I’d sure would prefer that freedom. Cheers to those trying new things and innovating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plissken Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, X2700 said: Need more natural gas plants that can throttle up or down depending on demand.also need cheaper ways to store wind and solar energy to use women it’s dark or no wind. Isn’t that a little politically incorrect? Edited August 28, 2023 by Plissken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X2700 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Plissken said: Isn’t that a little politically incorrect? Damn phone!!😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag6240 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 MN went all in on wind in the south/southwest part of the state years ago - always amazed at how many of those big wind mills can be seen from I-90 and State Highway 60 as you drive through. If memory serves me there’s a few thousand at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sled_Hed Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mag6240 said: MN went all in on wind in the south/southwest part of the state years ago - always amazed at how many of those big wind mills can be seen from I-90 and State Highway 60 as you drive through. If memory serves me there’s a few thousand at least. Yep. Wife's cousin and her husband live between Jackson and Windom and are in the middle of one wind farm that has approximately 250 windmills and a few are on his grandparents property. They make pretty good coin from that and they invested in it when it first came around as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 28, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 28, 2023 Guess what can't be created without fossil fuels. Renewables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Highmark said: Guess what can't be created without fossil fuels. Renewables. Sure, initial infrastructure takes fossil fuels, but the continual usage drops dramatically after grid deployment. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 28, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Sure, initial infrastructure takes fossil fuels, but the continual usage drops dramatically after grid deployment. Neal Thank you captain obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 On 8/28/2023 at 3:38 PM, Highmark said: Thank you captain obvious. You are welcome! Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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