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15 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

The G.O.A.T.

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Trump didn't believe the climate change scam either.

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44 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

Only an idiot votes for Trump or Biden.  Wisely is voting in the primary for a better option.  Hint ANY option is better.

HINT:  Come election day, there will be 2 choices, maybe 3 if we're lucky.

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16 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

HINT:  Come election day, there will be 2 choices, maybe 3 if we're lucky.

And if you are wise and active perhaps it won't be tweedle dee or tweedle dumb like it was in the last election.  Instead though we expect you to preach the greatness of one of the biggest idiots to ever be in office.

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26 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

And if you are wise and active perhaps it won't be tweedle dee or tweedle dumb like it was in the last election.  Instead though we expect you to preach the greatness of one of the biggest idiots to ever be in office.

It has always been 2 choices.  You won't vote for the R nominee no matter who it is.

Trump was the closest to an independent we ever got.

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The mere fact that Trump stood up to NATO, the WHO, the UN, the Paris Climate accords, the Iran Nuclear deal says it all.  He might not be as anti-establishment as some of us would want but he's the best we've had at not kowtowing to the world.  You are extremely biased if you cannot admit that even if you disagreed with his actions.

I would consider voting for a pro-choice POTUS candidate if they put America first as he did.  

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4 minutes ago, Highmark said:

The mere fact that Trump stood up to NATO, the WHO, the UN, the Paris Climate accords, the Iran Nuclear deal says it all.  He might not be as anti-establishment as some of us would want but he's the best we've had at not kowtowing to the world.  You are extremely biased if you cannot admit that even if you disagreed with his actions.

I would consider voting for a pro-choice POTUS candidate if they put America first as he did.  

Really? You have no clue as to what America first is.

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Just now, Mainecat said:

Really? You have no clue as to what America first is.

Jesus man get over yourself. :lol:  

Sorry dude but someone who goes thru such a dramatic shift in political ideals from conservative to socialism shouldn't be bragging about knowing what America first is. 

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14 minutes ago, racer254 said:

It has always been 2 choices.  You won't vote for the R nominee no matter who it is.

Trump was the closest to an independent we ever got.

Wrong on all accounts.

In some states there really isn't a choice.  CA for instance.  2 is not real.  In others a possibility of a 3rd is there.

As for the R, until Trump I've always voted for them.  Been a delegate for years.  That being said the direction the party is going now I am no longer a delegate.  I'd surely prefer to vote for an R, but will not vote for Trump or Desantis.

Trump is nowhere near an independent.  Sad you believe that.  He promised a lot and failed miserably at it.  All lip service which coming from him is no longer a surprise.

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1 hour ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said:

Numbers that matter....yeah this 37%er  is gonna get reelected.:lol:...

I'm pretty sure I'll be voting for Trump... I think it's a pretty good chance I do:lol:

 

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81 million.:lol:

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16 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

Wrong on all accounts.

In some states there really isn't a choice.  CA for instance.  2 is not real.  In others a possibility of a 3rd is there.

As for the R, until Trump I've always voted for them.  Been a delegate for years.  That being said the direction the party is going now I am no longer a delegate.  I'd surely prefer to vote for an R, but will not vote for Trump or Desantis.

Trump is nowhere near an independent.  Sad you believe that.  He promised a lot and failed miserably at it.  All lip service which coming from him is no longer a surprise.

Fucking bullshit you did.

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43 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

Wrong on all accounts.

In some states there really isn't a choice.  CA for instance.  2 is not real.  In others a possibility of a 3rd is there.

As for the R, until Trump I've always voted for them.  Been a delegate for years.  That being said the direction the party is going now I am no longer a delegate.  I'd surely prefer to vote for an R, but will not vote for Trump or Desantis.

Trump is nowhere near an independent.  Sad you believe that.  He promised a lot and failed miserably at it.  All lip service which coming from him is no longer a surprise.

He delivered on more campaign promises than any President in modern times.   I get it you hate the guy and I can't deny there is plenty about him personally there to hate.

I'm curious on what you dislike about DeSantis?   My issue is hearing the Bush's and Karl Rove are helping him out.   That will be a tough sell to many if it turns out to be true. 

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59 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Jesus man get over yourself. :lol:  

Sorry dude but someone who goes thru such a dramatic shift in political ideals from conservative to socialism shouldn't be bragging about knowing what America first is. 

Your Fuckin clueless. Stop living in your little box with blinders dude. Understand why NATO and treaties exist and why the US has to lead the world.

You can’t be this dumb man.

 

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1 hour ago, Deephaven said:

Wrong on all accounts.

In some states there really isn't a choice.  CA for instance.  2 is not real.  In others a possibility of a 3rd is there.

As for the R, until Trump I've always voted for them.  Been a delegate for years.  That being said the direction the party is going now I am no longer a delegate.  I'd surely prefer to vote for an R, but will not vote for Trump or Desantis.

Trump is nowhere near an independent.  Sad you believe that.  He promised a lot and failed miserably at it.  All lip service which coming from him is no longer a surprise.

What "R" would you vote for and list a reason.  I have asked this to a couple of people here and every one fails to answer that question. 

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16 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Your Fuckin clueless. Stop living in your little box with blinders dude. Understand why NATO and treaties exist and why the US has to lead the world.

You can’t be this dumb man.

 

NATO and trying to lead the world is a good part of the reason we are $31 trillion in debt you fucking imbecile.  Trump was simply trying to get others to pay their fair share and stop enriching who you call the enemy.   He was spot fucking on with Europe and Russia.   Only a complete moron couldn't see that.

Treaties that harm the US and benefit others shouldn't be signed...its as simple as that.  You want to keep bending over and taking it in the ass from the rest of the world fine but plenty of American's are fed the fuck up.   

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12 minutes ago, racer254 said:

What "R" would you vote for and list a reason.  I have asked this to a couple of people here and every one fails to answer that question. 

ANY not named Trump or Desantis.  Been down this road before.  There are other exceptions as well, but they'd never make it far enough into the process to be a real choice.

33 minutes ago, Highmark said:

He delivered on more campaign promises than any President in modern times.   I get it you hate the guy and I can't deny there is plenty about him personally there to hate.

He failed miserably at cleaning the swamp.  That alone got my vote along with other promise.  He didn't deliver at all and instead ended up doing the opposite.  Made a mess of things that should have been easy for him to resolve.

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3 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

ANY not named Trump or Desantis.  Been down this road before.  There are other exceptions as well, but they'd never make it far enough into the process to be a real choice.

He failed miserably at cleaning the swamp.  That alone got my vote along with other promise.  He didn't deliver at all and instead ended up doing the opposite.  Made a mess of things that should have been easy for him to resolve.

LOL. So you really just list who you won't vote for.  So the next front running republican you will say the same thing.

You are so spineless and immoral that you are afraid to actually list one you would vote for.  Take a stand, list the best republican you would vote for and why.  None of this "derp because they are not trump or desantis or whoever"

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1 minute ago, Deephaven said:

ANY not named Trump or Desantis.  Been down this road before.  There are other exceptions as well, but they'd never make it far enough into the process to be a real choice.

He failed miserably at cleaning the swamp.  That alone got my vote along with other promise.  He didn't deliver at all and instead ended up doing the opposite.  Made a mess of things that should have been easy for him to resolve.

Like what?  

I don't disagree that he didn't do enough at cleaning the swamp but for God's sake look at what the DOJ and IC were doing to him.  Without question I think he became scared to do more.   When Chuck Schummer goes on national TV and says mess with the IC and they have six ways from Sunday to get you is scary and we know 1% of it.

What needs to be done in Washington might be impossible at this point.   Parts of the govt are simply too powerful. 

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1 minute ago, racer254 said:

LOL. So you really just list who you won't vote for.  So the next front running republican you will say the same thing.

You are so spineless and immoral that you are afraid to actually list one you would vote for.  Take a stand, list the best republican you would vote for and why.  None of this "derp because they are not trump or desantis or whoever"

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I answered.  Very clearly.   Any other.  

As for listing, you are the chicken shit that needs to justify your position based on who others would bote for.  That is spineless.  

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1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said:

81 million.:lol:

Have you ever seen the pics and videos of his inauguration? not the stage but the surrounding mall.. never in our history has it been this way.   ten times the amount of press present over people and a huge number of uniformed military. it wasnt due to the plandemic either.   

 

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2 hours ago, Deephaven said:

And if you are wise and active perhaps it won't be tweedle dee or tweedle dumb like it was in the last election.  Instead though we expect you to preach the greatness of one of the biggest idiots to ever be in office.

I expect you to continue to be a low grade troll.  Ye shall forever be known as DerpHaven…

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24 minutes ago, Deephaven said:

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I answered.  Very clearly.   Any other.  

As for listing, you are the chicken shit that needs to justify your position based on who others would bote for.  That is spineless.  

Republican delegate.  I’ve heard it all now.   😆

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11 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

I expect you to continue to be a low grade troll.  Ye shall forever be known as DerpHaven…

Derpbusta!

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