ArcticCrusher Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Don't know but historically its quite fatal if immediate and proper treatment is not provided. The concern is he got up and then likely had an adrenaline surge, which caused his heart attack. That is more probable from myocarditis. That is what the experts are saying. So it should not be ignored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 3, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: The concern is he got up and then likely had an adrenaline surge, which caused his heart attack. That is more probable from myocarditis. That is what the experts are saying. So it should not be ignored. What experts are saying that? Chris Pronger had it happen during a game and he got up and went back down and it wasn’t a heart attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 3, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The concern is he got up and then likely had an adrenaline surge, which caused his heart attack. That is more probable from myocarditis. That is what the experts are saying. So it should not be ignored. See my edit. The video I posted of the karate match was very similar as is this one. Gets hit with a soccer ball and it doesn't appear that hard. Edited January 3, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 3, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The concern is he got up and then likely had an adrenaline surge, which caused his heart attack. That is more probable from myocarditis. That is what the experts are saying. So it should not be ignored. So like others who've died from this before covid, the vaccine had nothing to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted January 3, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) Another one very similar. Edited January 3, 2023 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 3, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Steve753 said: So like others who've died from this before covid, the vaccine had nothing to do with it. Once again…he talks in circles and makes shit up…dude is cracked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 3, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: What experts are saying that? Chris Pronger had it happen during a game and he got up and went back down and it wasn’t a heart attack. I've seen quite a few experts(drs) saying what A derpo is saying today. They are not blaming the vaccine however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 3, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, Steve753 said: I've seen quite a few experts(drs) saying what A derpo is saying today. They are not blaming the vaccine however. Are they mentioning Myocarditis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 3, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Jimmy Snacks said: Are they mentioning Myocarditis? No. Just that the initial hit likely didn't cause the heart attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 3, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Steve753 said: No. Just that the initial hit likely didn't cause the heart attack. I just read this…. “When your head goes ping-ponging, it’s very possible that a tremendous amount of adrenaline may be released,” Cohen said, “and that adrenaline triggers the heart to go into a chaotic rhythm, which we call ventricular fibrillation.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I just read this…. “When your head goes ping-ponging, it’s very possible that a tremendous amount of adrenaline may be released,” Cohen said, “and that adrenaline triggers the heart to go into a chaotic rhythm, which we call ventricular fibrillation.” From what I read, he wasn't in V-fib or A-fib. His heart stopped. That's what "cardiac arrest" means. It's not an infarction (heart attack) and not an arrhythmia like fibrillation. He was dead for a while. No heart beat. No breathing. No O2 to the brain. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Matt said: From what I read, he wasn't in V-fib or A-fib. His heart stopped. That's what "cardiac arrest" means. It's not an infarction (heart attack) and not an arrhythmia like fibrillation. He was dead for a while. No heart beat. No breathing. No O2 to the brain. Yep on field was slow to to react for first 2 mins as well. But at least no one did snow angles next to him (nick foles Sunday) Also if you think this was violent for this guy you're clueless he's a huge hitter. Probably would have been a star as well. Edited January 3, 2023 by washedupmxer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted January 3, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I just read this…. “When your head goes ping-ponging, it’s very possible that a tremendous amount of adrenaline may be released,” Cohen said, “and that adrenaline triggers the heart to go into a chaotic rhythm, which we call ventricular fibrillation.” 2 minutes ago, Matt said: From what I read, he wasn't in V-fib or A-fib. His heart stopped. That's what "cardiac arrest" means. It's not an infarction (heart attack) and not an arrhythmia like fibrillation. He was dead for a while. No heart beat. No breathing. No O2 to the brain. Hopefully not long enough for brain damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member EvilBird Posted January 3, 2023 Gold Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 whatever happened fucking sucks . I feel for his family that has to deal with millions of people seeing Him collapse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washedupmxer Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Imagine this happens on Monday. It could have smh. Not a flag, nothing. https://www.foxsports.com.au/nfl/nfl-2022-kayvon-thibodeaux-snow-angels-nick-foles-injury-update-jeff-saturday-indianapolis-colts/news-story/9eda35aebbfcff85a1b675fcc71d27f1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted January 3, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, Matt said: From what I read, he wasn't in V-fib or A-fib. His heart stopped. That's what "cardiac arrest" means. It's not an infarction (heart attack) and not an arrhythmia like fibrillation. He was dead for a while. No heart beat. No breathing. No O2 to the brain. I was wondering about that , and the outcome because of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 3, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, Matt said: From what I read, he wasn't in V-fib or A-fib. His heart stopped. That's what "cardiac arrest" means. It's not an infarction (heart attack) and not an arrhythmia like fibrillation. He was dead for a while. No heart beat. No breathing. No O2 to the brain. That’s what I heard from the beginning…didn’t hear anything about a heart attack until I read it here today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted January 3, 2023 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 31 minutes ago, EvilBird said: whatever happened fucking sucks . I feel for his family that has to deal with millions of people seeing Him collapse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hayward Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Sometimes things just can't be explained. Maybe he had an underlying problem and the hit and his energy level just brought it out of him? Awful feeling for everyone that witnessed it, at least it should have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted January 3, 2023 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 52 minutes ago, EvilBird said: whatever happened fucking sucks . I feel for his family that has to deal with millions of people seeing Him collapse. This!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: What experts are saying that? Chris Pronger had it happen during a game and he got up and went back down and it wasn’t a heart attack. So you are talking apples vs oranges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Steve753 said: So like others who've died from this before covid, the vaccine had nothing to do with it. He likely had an underlying heart issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: I just read this…. “When your head goes ping-ponging, it’s very possible that a tremendous amount of adrenaline may be released,” Cohen said, “and that adrenaline triggers the heart to go into a chaotic rhythm, which we call ventricular fibrillation.” Good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt said: From what I read, he wasn't in V-fib or A-fib. His heart stopped. That's what "cardiac arrest" means. It's not an infarction (heart attack) and not an arrhythmia like fibrillation. He was dead for a while. No heart beat. No breathing. No O2 to the brain. He died suddenly and needed to be revived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 hour ago, EvilBird said: whatever happened fucking sucks . I feel for his family that has to deal with millions of people seeing Him collapse. The guy is a great human who gave back to his community. A class act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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