Guest Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, ACE said: Remember when cat released a new chassis and it was 600 cc only wtf No because it never happened yet it's just a dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 On 12/28/2022 at 6:30 PM, krom said: Shit that was a week ago or more, besides it isn't a bunch of machines exploding, or bursting into flames, so its not as interesting as the poo news.. I think Textron backed out of the deal with RG, and didn't build any turbo's, or 4 seaters to get out of paying him royalties. AFIK they fired pretty much everyone involved in the projects when they cleaned house,but I'm not sure what really happened, and am too lazy to read all the court docs How much money has Polaris lost over those two recalls? Go ahead and post it. I’m sure you’ve already figured it out. 12 hours ago, HSR said: What's the total count now? 31 out of 230,000+ Yeah, ya know, huge deal. Gotta be more that $47m. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sleepybrew Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 12 hours ago, HSR said: What's the total count now? 31 out of 230,000+ 230000 times how many times each was started Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 $230,000 X whatever the recall actually costs. Says $250.00? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 It'll cost Polaris more just from the impact of driving people to other brands ... namely, SkiDoo. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's priced out SkiDoo sleds lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 21 minutes ago, ACE said: $230,000 X whatever the recall actually costs. Says $250.00? Well parts wise it's 230,000 X $5 so really just labour costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, HSR said: Well parts wise it's 230,000 X $5 so really just labour costs. So $150-$200 total? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 I seriously wonder, out of 230K sleds ... how many will actually get fixed? Half? A lot of people either aren't aware of the recall or people just don't give a shit. I'd be in the latter if I couldn't get my sled in for the recall anytime soon. Even if Polaris ultimately fixes two thirds of the sleds, that's roughly 150K machines. So, just using $200 as a round number for labor and parts, about $30M? The bigger question is .. will this roll over into the SxS segment too? If the same fuel pump assembly is used in SxS's ... ouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 16 minutes ago, Bontz said: I seriously wonder, out of 230K sleds ... how many will actually get fixed? Half? A lot of people either aren't aware of the recall or people just don't give a shit. I'd be in the latter if I couldn't get my sled in for the recall anytime soon. Even if Polaris ultimately fixes two thirds of the sleds, that's roughly 150K machines. So, just using $200 as a round number for labor and parts, about $30M? The bigger question is .. will this roll over into the SxS segment too? If the same fuel pump assembly is used in SxS's ... ouch. Could be 50-75 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Bontz said: It'll cost Polaris more just from the impact of driving people to other brands ... namely, SkiDoo. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's priced out SkiDoo sleds lately. Are you talking about the lack of snow check on time deliveries, or the recalls? I doubt the recalls will do much in the way of pushing people to something else. Most people that can’t get the recalls done are just riding them. Now, goofy people like yourself, who have put themselves through how many years of spring order delivery BS? Yeah, THAT I can see. That’s a you problem bud. No way am I selling anything to buy new unless the new item is already sitting there. I see too much of it on a daily basis. I’ll weather this storm with old junk, thanks. 55 minutes ago, HSR said: Well parts wise it's 230,000 X $5 so really just labour costs. I’ll bet the parts don’t cost them 1/4 of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 41 minutes ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: Are you talking about the lack of snow check on time deliveries, or the recalls? I doubt the recalls will do much in the way of pushing people to something else. Most people that can’t get the recalls done are just riding them. Now, goofy people like yourself, who have put themselves through how many years of spring order delivery BS? Yeah, THAT I can see. That’s a you problem bud. No way am I selling anything to buy new unless the new item is already sitting there. I see too much of it on a daily basis. I’ll weather this storm with old junk, thanks. I’ll bet the parts don’t cost them 1/4 of that. Goofy is putting it kindly, bud ... you can say what you mean to say ... Morons like myself!! I could've ridden a couple times last week, but I just couldn't bring myself to riding my XCR when it was all shined up and ready to go to my buddy who bought it. Now that it's officially in his hands, yes, I officially fall in that moron category for not having a sled to ride!! Bigger picture, I do think the combined debacles with snowcheck delays and overall quality control will cost Polaris more than just the $$$ that's going into these recalls. Just in the small groups that I ride with, at least 2 guys are pricing out SkiDoo models. I keep trying to tell them, "The grass isn't greener, it's just another shade of brown!" but that won't stop them as they have more money than patience. If I didn't have a kid that's going to take most of my January riding time up due to club volleyball, I'd be a lot more anxious (pissed), but as it stands I wouldn't hardly be able to ride in the next several weeks anyway. That is, unless mother nature rights the ship and gets us back into decent conditions locally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, Bontz said: Goofy is putting it kindly, bud ... you can say what you mean to say ... Morons like myself!! I could've ridden a couple times last week, but I just couldn't bring myself to riding my XCR when it was all shined up and ready to go to my buddy who bought it. Now that it's officially in his hands, yes, I officially fall in that moron category for not having a sled to ride!! Bigger picture, I do think the combined debacles with snowcheck delays and overall quality control will cost Polaris more than just the $$$ that's going into these recalls. Just in the small groups that I ride with, at least 2 guys are pricing out SkiDoo models. I keep trying to tell them, "The grass isn't greener, it's just another shade of brown!" but that won't stop them as they have more money than patience. If I didn't have a kid that's going to take most of my January riding time up due to club volleyball, I'd be a lot more anxious (pissed), but as it stands I wouldn't hardly be able to ride in the next several weeks anyway. That is, unless mother nature rights the ship and gets us back into decent conditions locally. Hey, you said it. I hear ya though. There’s only a few people in any of my riding groups that are buying new. They’re still buying Polaris but they do bitch and they are die hard Polaris guys anyway. I haven’t bought new since 2009. Can’t justify it. Between weather, the cost and work, it just isn’t worth it for me to spend the dough on something that’s going to get ridden 4-5 times a year, if that. Pretty sad really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 did Robby claim he invented the pyramid? and... back to Polaris junk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 23 hours ago, krom said: you seemed to ignore besides it isn't a bunch of machines exploding, or bursting into flames How many is a bunch? 13/230 000=? I've seen more 1100t burn to the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said: did Robby claim he invented the pyramid? and... back to Polaris junk He claimed Cat walked away from a binding agreement. He was right! 😁🖕🖕🖕 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, awful knawful said: He claimed Cat walked away from a binding agreement. He was right! 😁🖕🖕🖕 and this effects me how exactly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted December 31, 2022 Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said: and this effects me how exactly? That's your comeback? It doesn't even make sense. 🤦 Braindead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 minute ago, awful knawful said: That's your comeback? It doesn't even make sense. 🤦 Braindead so sad, no one cares about your thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/29/2022 at 9:09 PM, HSR said: No because it never happened yet it's just a dream. Everything about this new release screams we need more time. I guess 12 years waiting on a new chassis wasn’t enough? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 Probably have to delay the release of the 600 Catalyst to 2026 now. The Blast will be Arctic Cat's flagship sled. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, Doug said: Probably have to delay the release of the 600 Catalyst to 2026 now. The Blast will be Arctic Cat's flagship sled. Actually be a sweet sled with a 600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 9 hours ago, Edmo said: Everything about this new release screams we need more time. I guess 12 years waiting on a new chassis wasn’t enough? How long did it take them to release an EPA complaint 800 2S? And how’d that go for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 15 hours ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: How long did it take them to release an EPA complaint 800 2S? And how’d that go for them? It’s still a better 800 than doo or poo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 1 minute ago, ACE said: It’s still a better 800 than doo or poo Only because they don't make an 800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, ACE said: It’s still a better 800 than doo or poo The ones I’ve ridden sure were not. I was more so comparing them to 800 Suks though so.. They certainly aren’t as reliable as the Suks were either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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