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Bill O is selling war with Syria pretty hard. Making all kinds of claims. I remember when he was selling the war in Iraq. Said he was right and would admit it if it turned out to be bullshit. Looks like he hasn't learned anything. Fucking disgusting. 

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18 minutes ago, Anler said:

Bill O is selling war with Syria pretty hard. Making all kinds of claims. I remember when he was selling the war in Iraq. Said he was right and would admit it if it turned out to be bullshit. Looks like he hasn't learned anything. Fucking disgusting. 

He's another one....fucking jerkoff war monger.

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11 hours ago, Anler said:

Bill O is selling war with Syria pretty hard. Making all kinds of claims. I remember when he was selling the war in Iraq. Said he was right and would admit it if it turned out to be bullshit. Looks like he hasn't learned anything. Fucking disgusting. 

Saddam was dangerous :news: 

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Guess my question with Assad is why the fuck is the international community (UN) not demanding war crime charges against him if they are so sure his regime did it?  This should be automatic.  Proof of use of these weapons should mean automatic international coalition to remove them no matter who his allies are.     

 

 

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1 hour ago, DriftBusta said:

I missed it.  What is he saying?  I don't think anyone wants us in another war.

Are you serious?

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Lets be clear, Saddam was a very bad guy.

Human rights organizations have documented government-approved executions, acts of torture and rape for decades since Saddam Hussein came to power in 1979 until his fall in 2003.

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Mass grave.
  • In 2002, a resolution sponsored by the European Union was adopted by the Commission for Human Rights, which stated that there had been no improvement in the human rights crisis in Iraq. The statement condemned President Saddam Hussein's government for its "systematic, widespread and extremely grave violations of human rights and international humanitarian law" and called on Iraq to cease "summary and arbitrary executions ... the use of rape as a political tool and all enforced and involuntary disappearances".[1]
  • Full political participation at the national level was restricted only to members of the Ba'ath Party, which constituted only 8% of the population.
  • Iraqi citizens were not legally allowed to assemble unless it was to express support for the government. The Iraqi government controlled the establishment of political parties, regulated their internal affairs and monitored their activities.
  • Police checkpoints on Iraq's roads and highways prevented ordinary citizens from traveling across country without government permission and expensive exit visas prevented Iraqi citizens from traveling abroad. Before traveling, an Iraqi citizen had to post collateral. Iraqi females could not travel outside of the country without the escort of a male relative.[2]
  • The activities of citizens living inside Iraq who received money from relatives abroad were closely monitored[citation needed].
  • Halabja poison gas attack:The Halabja poison gas attack occurred in the period 15–19 March 1988 during the Iran–Iraq War when chemical weapons were used by the Iraqi government forces and thousands of civilians in the Iraqi Kurdish town of Halabja were killed.[3]
  • Al-Anfal Campaign: In 1988, the Hussein regime began a campaign of extermination against the Kurdish people living in Northern Iraq. This is known as the Anfal campaign. A team of Human Rights Watch investigators determined, after analyzing eighteen tons of captured Iraqi documents, testing soil samples and carrying out interviews with more than 350 witnesses, that the attacks on the Kurdish people were characterized by gross violations of human rights, including mass executions and disappearances of many tens of thousands of noncombatants, widespread use of chemical weapons including Sarin, mustard gas and nerve agents that killed thousands, the arbitrary imprisoning of tens of thousands of women, children, and elderly people for months in conditions of extreme deprivation, forced displacement of hundreds of thousands of villagers after the demolition of their homes, and the wholesale destruction of nearly two thousand villages along with their schools, mosques, farms and power stations.[3][4]
  • In April 1991, after Saddam lost control of Kuwait in the Persian Gulf War, he cracked down ruthlessly against several uprisings in the Kurdish north and the Shia south. His forces committed full-scale massacres and other gross human rights violations against both groups similar to the violations mentioned before.[5]
  • In June 1994, the Hussein regime in Iraq established severe penalties, including amputation, branding and the death penalty for criminal offenses such as theft, corruption, currency speculation and military desertion, while government members and Saddam's family members were immune from punishments ranging around these crimes.[6]
  • In 2001, the Iraqi government amended the Constitution to make sodomy a capital offense.
  • On March 23, 2003, during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Iraqi television presented and interviewed prisoners of war on TV, violating the Geneva Convention.
  • Also in April 2003, CNN revealed that it had withheld information about Iraq torturing journalists and Iraqi citizens in the 1990s. According to CNN's chief news executive, the channel had been concerned for the safety not only of its own staff, but also of Iraqi sources and informants, who could expect punishment for speaking freely to reporters. Also according to the executive, "other news organizations were in the same bind."[7]
  • After the 2003 invasion of Iraq, several mass graves were found in Iraq containing several thousand bodies total and more are being uncovered to this day.[8] While most of the dead in the graves were believed to have died in the 1991 uprising against Saddam Hussein, some of them appeared to have died due to executions or died at times other than the 1991 rebellion.
  • Also after the invasion, numerous torture centers were found in security offices and police stations throughout Iraq. The equipment found at these centers typically included hooks for hanging people by the hands for beatings, devices for electric shock and other equipment often found in nations with harsh security services and other authoritarian nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saddam_Hussein's_Iraq

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No one is saying he was a good guy. He was good at controlling/lying about his military strength to his neighbors so much so they feared him.

Tommy Flanagan of the mid east........you got nukes Saddam? Yeah we might have them....yeah we do.

 

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Reality is the US is in a no win situation.   The world condemns us for action or inaction.  Get the fuck out.  These conflicts are so complicated and convoluted there is no way to do either without people pointing to theories of justifications whether they are true or not.  IMHO the least damaging is simply staying out of it.  

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1 hour ago, Highmark said:

Lets be clear, Saddam was a very bad guy.

Human rights organizations have documented government-approved executions, acts of torture and rape for decades since Saddam Hussein came to power in 1979 until his fall in 2003.

Iraqmassgrave3.jpg
 
Mass grave.
  • In 2002, a resolution sponsored by the European Union was adopted by the Commission for Human Rights, which stated that there had been no improvement in the human rights crisis in Iraq. The statement condemned President Saddam Hussein's government for its "systematic, widespread and extremely grave violations of human rights and international humanitarian law" and called on Iraq to cease "summary and arbitrary executions ... the use of rape as a political tool and all enforced and involuntary disappearances".[1]
  • Full political participation at the national level was restricted only to members of the Ba'ath Party, which constituted only 8% of the population.
  • Iraqi citizens were not legally allowed to assemble unless it was to express support for the government. The Iraqi government controlled the establishment of political parties, regulated their internal affairs and monitored their activities.
  • Police checkpoints on Iraq's roads and highways prevented ordinary citizens from traveling across country without government permission and expensive exit visas prevented Iraqi citizens from traveling abroad. Before traveling, an Iraqi citizen had to post collateral. Iraqi females could not travel outside of the country without the escort of a male relative.[2]
  • The activities of citizens living inside Iraq who received money from relatives abroad were closely monitored[citation needed].
  • Halabja poison gas attack:The Halabja poison gas attack occurred in the period 15–19 March 1988 during the Iran–Iraq War when chemical weapons were used by the Iraqi government forces and thousands of civilians in the Iraqi Kurdish town of Halabja were killed.[3]
  • Al-Anfal Campaign: In 1988, the Hussein regime began a campaign of extermination against the Kurdish people living in Northern Iraq. This is known as the Anfal campaign. A team of Human Rights Watch investigators determined, after analyzing eighteen tons of captured Iraqi documents, testing soil samples and carrying out interviews with more than 350 witnesses, that the attacks on the Kurdish people were characterized by gross violations of human rights, including mass executions and disappearances of many tens of thousands of noncombatants, widespread use of chemical weapons including Sarin, mustard gas and nerve agents that killed thousands, the arbitrary imprisoning of tens of thousands of women, children, and elderly people for months in conditions of extreme deprivation, forced displacement of hundreds of thousands of villagers after the demolition of their homes, and the wholesale destruction of nearly two thousand villages along with their schools, mosques, farms and power stations.[3][4]
  • In April 1991, after Saddam lost control of Kuwait in the Persian Gulf War, he cracked down ruthlessly against several uprisings in the Kurdish north and the Shia south. His forces committed full-scale massacres and other gross human rights violations against both groups similar to the violations mentioned before.[5]
  • In June 1994, the Hussein regime in Iraq established severe penalties, including amputation, branding and the death penalty for criminal offenses such as theft, corruption, currency speculation and military desertion, while government members and Saddam's family members were immune from punishments ranging around these crimes.[6]
  • In 2001, the Iraqi government amended the Constitution to make sodomy a capital offense.
  • On March 23, 2003, during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, Iraqi television presented and interviewed prisoners of war on TV, violating the Geneva Convention.
  • Also in April 2003, CNN revealed that it had withheld information about Iraq torturing journalists and Iraqi citizens in the 1990s. According to CNN's chief news executive, the channel had been concerned for the safety not only of its own staff, but also of Iraqi sources and informants, who could expect punishment for speaking freely to reporters. Also according to the executive, "other news organizations were in the same bind."[7]
  • After the 2003 invasion of Iraq, several mass graves were found in Iraq containing several thousand bodies total and more are being uncovered to this day.[8] While most of the dead in the graves were believed to have died in the 1991 uprising against Saddam Hussein, some of them appeared to have died due to executions or died at times other than the 1991 rebellion.
  • Also after the invasion, numerous torture centers were found in security offices and police stations throughout Iraq. The equipment found at these centers typically included hooks for hanging people by the hands for beatings, devices for electric shock and other equipment often found in nations with harsh security services and other authoritarian nations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Saddam_Hussein's_Iraq

Let's be clear WGAF what he did,  we support people who do that sort of shit all the time when we think it's in our best interest.  

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31 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Reality is the US is in a no win situation.   The world condemns us for action or inaction.  Get the fuck out.  These conflicts are so complicated and convoluted there is no way to do either without people pointing to theories of justifications whether they are true or not.  IMHO the least damaging is simply staying out of it.  

Zactly cause no one else is going to step up so we are left holding the bag financially and militarily.  

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6 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

Zactly cause no one else is going to step up so we are left holding the bag financially and militarily.  

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2 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

Saddam had a dapper style for sure, the fedoras, scarfs, suits, etc.

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The pork pie hat, pinstripes, and open collar in this pic is a nice summer look.

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He liked fine whiskey and cuban cigars too. Fucking dirty muslim. :lol: 

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7 minutes ago, Anler said:

He liked fine whiskey and cuban cigars too. Fucking dirty muslim. :lol: 

 

2 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said:

Saddam had a dapper style for sure, the fedoras, scarfs, suits, etc.

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The pork pie hat, pinstripes, and open collar in this pic is a nice summer look.

Image result for saddam fedora

 

There's alot of interbreading in that country. Witch one in the bottom picture is Saddam lol.

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8 hours ago, Angry ginger said:

Let's be clear WGAF what he did,  we support people who do that sort of shit all the time when we think it's in our best interest.  

What do you mean support "people who do that shit" The United States supported Saddam for years. He asked for permission to attach Kuwait and you fuckers gave him permission.

Republicans blind sided Saddam. He was an evil prick but you supported him.

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