Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Ok , serious question What lax guns laws would you change that would actually have a chance at passing ? A quick history of gun laws: https://amnestymedia.org/american-gun-laws-explained-a-brief-history-of-gun-control/?amp=1 Reinstate the 1996 Assault weapons ban. Waiting periods. Back ground checks. Close fun show loop holes, etc. A long list of options but the NRA opposes all laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, snoughnut said: Timothy McVeigh didn't need a gun. The whack job that mowed down people in that Waukesha parade didn't either. Sure there are exceptions but how do the majority of mass atrocities happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, snoughnut said: Timothy McVeigh didn't need a gun. The whack job that mowed down people in that Waukesha parade didn't either. If you ban assault weapons these freaks will just move on to buckshot. The reason they dont now is contrary to popular beleif among the left, they are not gun guys. Most of these freaks are shooting up the place with the first gun they ever bought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoughnut Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, SnowRider said: A quick history of gun laws: https://amnestymedia.org/american-gun-laws-explained-a-brief-history-of-gun-control/?amp=1 Reinstate the 1996 Assault weapons ban. Waiting periods. Back ground checks. Close fun show loop holes, etc. A long list of options but the NRA opposes all laws. LOL, gun laws are just like drug laws, the evil criminals just laugh at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, SnowRider said: A quick history of gun laws: https://amnestymedia.org/american-gun-laws-explained-a-brief-history-of-gun-control/?amp=1 Reinstate the 1996 Assault weapons ban. Waiting periods. Back ground checks. Close fun show loop holes, etc. A long list of options but the NRA opposes all laws. Waiting periods may help with suicides, not much else. We already do background checks. so few guns used in crimes come from gun shows ( less then 3 % ) that the ATF considers it to be a non issue. Stopping freaks unfortunatly is damn near impossible. Getting illegal guns off the streets involves putting women in prison , and lets face it . No one wants to do that. Especially seeing most have kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, SnowRider said: A whole lotta excuses. Too many guns and gun laws are too lax. Especially in democrat controlled cities like Chicago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: If you ban assault weapons these freaks will just move on to buckshot. The reason they dont now is contrary to popular beleif among the left, they are not gun guys. Most of these freaks are shooting up the place with the first gun they ever bought. 5 minutes ago, snoughnut said: LOL, gun laws are just like drug laws, the evil criminals just laugh at them. 2 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Waiting periods may help with suicides, not much else. We already do background checks. so few guns used in crimes come from gun shows ( less then 3 % ) that the ATF considers it to be a non issue. Stopping freaks unfortunatly is damn near impossible. Getting illegal guns off the streets involves putting women in prison , and lets face it . No one wants to do that. Especially seeing most have kids. Why is the problem so much worse in the US? All you guys post are excuses. Laws work. But you’re convinced they won’t because the NRA says so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, Steve753 said: Especially in democrat controlled cities like Chicago. Most of those are coming from straw purchases. The mojority bought legal by girlfriends of gang bangers. ATF needs to be spending more time looking at the books and going and asking to see the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Steve753 said: Especially in democrat controlled cities like Chicago. Ignorant example. Surround the cities with similar gun laws and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, SnowRider said: Ignorant example. Surround the cities with similar gun laws and see what happens. Great example, typical Democrat deflection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, SnowRider said: Why is the problem so much worse in the US? All you guys post are excuses. Laws work. But you’re convinced they won’t because the NRA says so. Unless you stop the desire people have to kill others they will find a way . Massachusetts has very strict gun laws. NH has none beyond federal laws. Yet the murder rates in mass are higher. Some yrs as much as 3 times higher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, SnowRider said: Why is the problem so much worse in the US? All you guys post are excuses. Laws work. But you’re convinced they won’t because the NRA says so. the research says... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/ careful, you are about to get labeled here even as a firearm owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Unless you stop the desire people have to kill others they will find a way . Massachusetts has very strict gun laws. NH has none beyond federal laws. Yet the murder rates in mass are higher. Some yrs as much as 3 times higher. Boston alone probably has a higher rate than NH, VT and ME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, SnowRider said: A quick history of gun laws: https://amnestymedia.org/american-gun-laws-explained-a-brief-history-of-gun-control/?amp=1 Reinstate the 1996 Assault weapons ban. Waiting periods. Back ground checks. Close fun show loop holes, etc. A long list of options but the NRA opposes all laws. There are more guns than people in the country already and every time the Dems talk gun control gun sales go up. Everywhere in the country that has strict gun laws gun crimes are high. If you want to fix gun violence stop blaming the gun. And for the record I don't like guns or own one so we want the same thing. In typical Dem fashion they make laws and regs that make them feel good without thought for effectiveness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 Just now, Crnr2Crnr said: the research says... https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/09/13/key-facts-about-americans-and-guns/ careful, you are about to get labeled here even as a firearm owner. I’ve been labeled multiple things for a long time And yes I own guns. Friends with several cops and most want better gun laws which include more comprehensive training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Carlos Danger said: There are more guns than people in the country already and every time the Dems talk gun control gun sales go up. Everywhere in the country that has strict gun laws gun crimes are high. If you want to fix gun violence stop blaming the gun. And for the record I don't like guns or own one so we want the same thing. In typical Dem fashion they make laws and regs that make them feel good without thought for effectiveness. So you’re saying ignorance is to blame? How about we copy laws from around the world that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: Boston alone probably has a higher rate than NH, VT and ME True , and Im not going to say it is because NH , VT and Maine all have constitutional carry. Contrary to popular beleif, the availability of legal guns has very little to do with crime rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Carlos Danger said: There are more guns than people in the country already and every time the Dems talk gun control gun sales go up. Everywhere in the country that has strict gun laws gun crimes are high. If you want to fix gun violence stop blaming the gun. And for the record I don't like guns or own one so we want the same thing. In typical Dem fashion they make laws and regs that make them feel good without thought for effectiveness. hummm The United States is a country with an estimated population of about 320 million people. It has the highest rate of firearm ownership globally, and it also has some of the strictest gun control laws in the developed world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 22 minutes ago, SnowRider said: A quick history of gun laws: https://amnestymedia.org/american-gun-laws-explained-a-brief-history-of-gun-control/?amp=1 Reinstate the 1996 Assault weapons ban. Waiting periods. Back ground checks. Close fun show loop holes, etc. A long list of options but the NRA opposes all laws. Where did you find that article? There is so much incorrect info in there it is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: True , and Im not going to say it is because NH , VT and Maine all have constitutional carry. Contrary to popular beleif, the availability of legal guns has very little to do with crime rates. these were interesting and funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 Help me! Save me government. Best I can do is take away your rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 (edited) OMG, lets go back to the 90's with the same old bullshit narrative. One retard is already back saying the same fucking thing that he did before. Their brains are only wired one way and they just can't find anything new. The great thing about COVID was that it removed these liberal narratives for a while and we had some new things to talk about. Now back to guns, abortions, russia etc. Fuck me. Edited November 23, 2022 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted November 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, racer254 said: OMG, lets go back to the 90's with the same old bullshit narrative. One retard is already back saying the same fucking thing that he did before. Their brains are only wired one way and they just can't find anything new. The great thing about COVID was that it removed these liberal narratives for a while and we had some new things to talk about. Now back to guns, abortions, russia etc. Fuck me. Seriously? You're exactly the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Steve753 said: Seriously? You're exactly the same. Really, do I flood the site with memes and derogatory names for people? All so I can talk about the same narratives from 20 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted November 23, 2022 Share Posted November 23, 2022 If you deer hunt you need a safety course before you can purchase a license……..,but you don’t need a safety course to buy and own a gun or guns. ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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