Puzzleboy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I always thought that, but I know a fellow who recently was charged with over .080 and Impaired on his boat. He lost neither his PCOC nor his DL for 3 months, as you would in a car. Is the 3 month automatic suspension not applicable to vessels, and not connected to your DL? Perhaps only upon conviction are they tied together? Thanks! Being impaired and operating a vessel is the same as driving your car impaired. Same penalties and loss of drivers licence. Its a criminal code offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Fuzzy, have you been speeding through NO WAKE zones? On 2017-07-20 at 5:14 PM, Frostynuts said: Hi Sean, got a question for you. If an Ontario boater gets fined for speeding in a no wake zone, does that show up against your driving record, or is it like getting a fine on a snowmobile ? Do you also happen to know how it works on the states side ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odot1 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Puzzleboy said: I always thought that, but I know a fellow who recently was charged with over .080 and Impaired on his boat. He lost neither his PCOC nor his DL for 3 months, as you would in a car. Is the 3 month automatic suspension not applicable to vessels, and not connected to your DL? Perhaps only upon conviction are they tied together? Thanks! He should've lost his dl for the 90 days...based on two tests of over .080. There is no mechanism in place to suspend the PCOC. Upon conviction he/she may be prohibited from operating a vessel as well as a vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Apparently one test registered below .080, and one just above. Could that be the reason for no 30 day suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odot1 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 1 minute ago, Puzzleboy said: Apparently one test registered below .080, and one just above. Could that be the reason for no 30 day suspension? Yes, you need both tests .080 or above fo the 90 day amdinistrative drivers licence suspension to kick in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) Interesting, never knew that. So 2 tests over .080 for the 3 month suspension, but only one is required to lay an over .080 charge? Edited July 24, 2017 by Puzzleboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odot1 Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 Was the charge for over 80 or impaired? Same penalties but different charges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I'll have to check with him. I assumed it was both, but not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostynuts Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 18 hours ago, Puzzleboy said: Fuzzy, have you been speeding through NO WAKE zones? Nope, but one of the Alex Bay American Poker runners did last Sunday, and he got fined, so it got me wondering if the laws were the same on our side. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Sean, marine question. What is required to legally construct a roped-off swimming area on a lake? Someone has recently installed one at one of our common anchorage spots. Wouldn't the CHS have to be notified to update their charts? And who has jurisdiction over such constructs - municipality, etc.? I'd have to think that somebody installing one of these with no authorization is creating a marine navigation hazard. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odot1 Posted July 26, 2017 Author Share Posted July 26, 2017 I agree with you. I'd think right off the bat MNR would be very interested. I know the towns has some say but MNR and MOE always have final say. Transport Canada would be interested from a navigational perspective as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 I haven't seen it yet, but apparently it's so wide that no boats can get in. Clearly we were having too much fun there. Which brings another question - we have a few stereos onboard that belt it out pretty good. (we run generators, etc.). Is there actual legislation against noise during daylight hours? I always figured 07:00 to 23:00, noise was kinda off the legal grid. Municipal bylaws notwithstanding, of course. BTW, are you boating this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odot1 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Puzzleboy said: I haven't seen it yet, but apparently it's so wide that no boats can get in. Clearly we were having too much fun there. Which brings another question - we have a few stereos onboard that belt it out pretty good. (we run generators, etc.). Is there actual legislation against noise during daylight hours? I always figured 07:00 to 23:00, noise was kinda off the legal grid. Municipal bylaws notwithstanding, of course. BTW, are you boating this year? The only real noise legislation on the water revolves around mufflers/exhaust. As you suggested within city limits their bylaws or around provincial parks, federal parks (lock stations and various islands) would apply but beyond that I can't think of any other legislation. Not boating (off duty) yet...sigh... been one of those years where everything that can go wrong or work against you has... Will keep you posted tho!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealth bomber Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 Guess I jinxed it by bringing up the ATV's. My boys got stopped by an OPP officer on their way home from doing farm work yesterday. The officer was fair and understanding of the situation though. Escorted them home and gave my wife a blast of shit but no charges laid. He's ok in my books, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odot1 Posted July 27, 2017 Author Share Posted July 27, 2017 2 hours ago, stealth bomber said: Guess I jinxed it by bringing up the ATV's. My boys got stopped by an OPP officer on their way home from doing farm work yesterday. The officer was fair and understanding of the situation though. Escorted them home and gave my wife a blast of shit but no charges laid. He's ok in my books, lol. Glad that turned out ok!!! We're not all assholes.... (despite what Zoso would have you believe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stealth bomber Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Just a guy doing his job. I'm glad they boys got to have a positive experience for their first time dealing with the law. IMO a negative experience at an early age can adversely affect ones outlook on law enforcement. Officer told mom they were very polite when he stopped them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odot1 Posted July 28, 2017 Author Share Posted July 28, 2017 Perfect. I do my best to provide a positive interaction when youth are involved for the very reason you mention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Sounds like he either lost his ticket book, or couldn't find the chapter they were in contravention of. Sorry Sean..... On 2017-07-27 at 5:20 PM, stealth bomber said: Guess I jinxed it by bringing up the ATV's. My boys got stopped by an OPP officer on their way home from doing farm work yesterday. The officer was fair and understanding of the situation though. Escorted them home and gave my wife a blast of shit but no charges laid. He's ok in my books, lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odot1 Posted August 1, 2017 Author Share Posted August 1, 2017 7 hours ago, Puzzleboy said: Sounds like he either lost his ticket book, or couldn't find the chapter they were in contravention of. Sorry Sean..... Zoso, is that you?!?!?!?!!?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puzzleboy Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Lol. I think you guys are mostly digital now anyway? I received a warning a couple weeks ago on the Gardiner-digitally printed in the cops car, looks just like a ticket. He CLAIMED he saw my car making agressive lane changes...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odot1 Posted August 2, 2017 Author Share Posted August 2, 2017 I'd say about 75% are digital with e-ticketing and computers on board. That climbs to about 99% in the GTA. Most of us have an app on our phones with all the statutes, criminal code etc... has fines, wordings, demerit point levels. Designed and built by a couple coppers... works great...available off-line as well. I think its about $15 for 2yr subscription. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Rider Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 Hey Sean. A multi part question I have never seen talked about here. When a sled has a rider with a G1 they can drive a sled on and across a road. Is it the same for an ATV? What about a SXS or an ATV with a passenger? If so it seems odd that a G1 Driver can drive one of the 4-5 passenger SXS's on a road without a "G" passenger. Just saw a SXS go by with 4 kids and was kinda shocked. Does the G1 operator not need a full G passenger to drive on a road like in a car? Seeing 4 kids in a SXS heading into the bush in shorts and t-shirts with no helmets struck a nerve with me. Awaiting for the pager to go off for a Rescue, as a first responder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 18 minutes ago, Algonquin Rider said: Hey Sean. A multi part question I have never seen talked about here. When a sled has a rider with a G1 they can drive a sled on and across a road. Is it the same for an ATV? What about a SXS or an ATV with a passenger? If so it seems odd that a G1 Driver can drive one of the 4-5 passenger SXS's on a road without a "G" passenger. Just saw a SXS go by with 4 kids and was kinda shocked. Does the G1 operator not need a full G passenger to drive on a road like in a car? Seeing 4 kids in a SXS heading into the bush in shorts and t-shirts with no helmets struck a nerve with me. Awaiting for the pager to go off for a Rescue, as a first responder. They need a G2 to drive am ATV or SXS on the road. They can't legally drive a SXS with a G passenger. I asked this question before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odot1 Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 AC is correct G2 or better. However unlike sleds no licence requirements on the trail.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Rider Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 14 minutes ago, odot1 said: AC is correct G2 or better. However unlike sleds no licence requirements on the trail.. So a 12yo can drive a SXS with 4 other kids on a trail even if its Crown or Private land trail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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