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I understand the feeling. It's very frustrating. I have come across ATVs in the past deliberately chewing up the trails doing donuts etc. I've charged them with mischief under the criminal code.

That's definitely a logical thought. But (there's always a but) the courts don't see it that way. The prevailing view is that crown land is open to all Ontarians to use. Trust me, we've looked at all angles we could think of, courts often disagree.

Hey Dan No real updates on this. I know the OFSC and various ATV clubs have had ongoing chats about this, but nothing solved. In the end in depends on what the Land User Agreement dictates and who has "ownership" of the trail portion. In an ideal world we'd like to see the ATVs stay away from groomed trails, but unless otherwise posted, there won't be any trespass charges. I wish I had a more definitive answer for you. Sean

Yup, as far back as I can remember. I think he may be pawning off his mistake on the dealer! Regardless of the law, it makes interactions with us so much quicker. You approach me, I see your pass, numbers and Val tag all visible from my point of view I generally hold you you less than a few seconds. Makes both of our lives easier.

Left side as you sit. Did I win you a beer????

Wow, that could've ended badly. I agree should have that overhang marked. But there really is nothing that would cover that scenario for lighting. I'll keep digging tho.

You are limited, both vehicle and load to a maximum of 2.6m or 8.5ft. Length of veh can't exceed 12.5m or 41ft. Hope this answers your question

I want to make sure I understand correctly. Are you talking about the vehicle/trailer or the sled?

In all honesty, the only time I want ti see the documentation for the trail pass is when the pass isn't affixed. I've found a percentage of riders travel with the pass in their pockets. Either because they share it with others or don't like the looks of it on the sled. In both cases we're making you put it on trsilside PLUS the ticket for failing to have it displayed. Although when dealing with a good attitude and hearing a legitimate reason I may be flexible. Now as far as a legal requirement, the OFSC stipulates you must have the the paperwork AND it must be for that sled and registered owner. There is no specific charge for that, but when you read the waivers and signage it says you must abide by all rules and regulations of the OFSC. Therefore, not having the paperwork means you are technically trespassing and can be fined and/or removed from the trails. I hope that answers your question or wins you a beer fior the next debate!! If I missed something or misread the question, let me know. Sean

The mere fact you're operating a MSV on public property is reason enough to stop a sled and verify documents. Similar to vehicles on a highway.

Was there on ATV patrol Saturday (10SEP22) Had some chicken fingers at Gas and Country I saw several people refuel....Sooooo, I assume there is fuel available now. Having said that, it is north of 7, so things could change any given day!!

For anyone following... we've hit $2010 today!!! Thanks for all the support!!!!!!!!

Despite Rupert passing in December.2019 we are still trying to give back!! Every year Rupert and I raise funds to give back to the organization that saved his life and enriched mine. I know money is tight and I don't want anyone to feel any pressure to donate. We are accepting positive thoughts and comments as well!!! As many know, Rupert was hit by a car Christmas eve 2009. I found him while on duty Christmas morning. He was in the median of the 401 and had been there so long his body heat melted the ice and snow leaving him in a puddle of water. Despite several broken bones in his left rear leg and a blown out right rear knee he did not whimper, bark or bite when I picked him up. I could hear his bones grinding... but he was tough!! and stubborn...soooo very stubborn. A plea for his owner went out... he was only about a year old and obviously some ones pet. Turned out he was owned by a violent drug dealer who used to beat on him (drug dealer burned to death in deal gone bad 6mnths later). The plea brought in enough donations to fix Rupert's injuries and with the donation of an amazing rehab vet, Dr Cherie White he learned to walk again!! He can now chase down rabbits and squirrels!!! Please add your own stories to this thread as well!!! I've attached the donation site.. You guys have helped me raise the most money each year since I've started. I can't thank you enough for that!!!!! They've created an award for the top fundraiser and named it the Annual Rupert Award!!! This has been such a humbling experience...ups and downs... damn doggies!!! I'm glad I've been able to drag you guys along kicking and screaming!!!! I know 2020-22 has been a fkd up couple of years so I'm not expecting much. Awareness and well wishes go a long way as well!!!! Donate here ---> https://www.canadahelps.org/me/j2zVcZv The story of Rupert   “Rupert was struck by a car early Christmas morning 2009 on a bleak stretch of the 401 highway just west of Kingston. The stalwart Lab was found in a ditch where he'd dragged himself after suffering severe injuries to both hind legs, including a shattered femur and badly torn ligaments. OPP officer, Sean McCaffrey was directed to the dog by a passerby. "After being flagged down, I followed the small trail of blood to the dog who, having lain there long enough to melt the snow and ice beneath him, was shivering in a pool of frigid water," said McCaffrey. "Rupert did not whine or growl when I approached him. He shivered and wagged his tail and gobbled some food and allowed me to cover him with my coat and hold him to warm him."  Rupert was transported to the Kingston Regional Pet Hospital. The next morning, Boxing Day, brought a sad turn to the dog's story. It seemed that Rupert's injuries might be too severe to be successfully operable. The afternoon of the 26th saw an improved prognosis for Rupert, with recovery possible although amputation of one leg likely. Rupert's comfort was a priority throughout the evaluation period and he was kept pain-free and at ease. Rupert's case was then brought to the attention of Dr. Parker and the Ottawa orthopedic surgeon agreed to assess Rupert at Alta Vista. Not only did Dr. Parker think he could help the dog, he believed that both legs could be saved.  So the young dog made the trip from Kingston to Ottawa late on the 29th and spent the morning of the 30th being assessed. Following the exam, Dr. Parker began surgery to pin and plate the broken femur and repair the torn ligaments in the other leg. "I spoke with Dr. Parker, a veterinarian orthopedic surgeon at Alta Vista Animal Hospital in Ottawa. He has fully assessed Rupert and he feels the prognosis for Rupert is quite good," said Janice Saunders, president of the Kingston Humane Society, in a release dated December 30th. "The current plan is to repair Rupert's fractured left hip. Damage to the cruciate ligament in the right hind leg was also detected and Dr. Parker is repairing this injury during [the] surgery as well." The following morning Rupert underwent a final surgery to adjust the plate and pins and then spent the next five days resting and recovering from the successful but arduous surgery. When Rupert was first brought to the emergency clinic in Kingston he was a stray with no identifiable owner. The Kingston Humane Society sent out a plea to locate Rupert's owner, unsure of the dog's future and seeking a reunion. The community responded immediately offering concern and financial support for the dog.” 1297814_10153165580320515_20019_n.mp4

Part of our initial 2wk marine training. Then we have another 3wks for those of us driving our larger vessels.

Sadly more common than you'd expect. I'd say 2 or 3 occasions per shift.

That's fantastic! I'm glad they listened to your club. We don't want to lose trails any more than the average sledder!

Lmfao!! Seems I may already have an invite I just can't refuse!! And thank you. Hopefully it's a better season!!! 🍻

Hey Dan, This is an ongoing provincial problem. One we keep talking about within our team. Off trail/trespassing, trail pass and cans are zero tolerance within our unit. Reaching out to the local detachments is the best idea. You can request to speak to the operators manager or the traffic/marine management officer. Keep me posted. Sean

Great news!! Once again, and with help from you guys. We've once again surpassed our goal!! Thank you!!!

Thanks Tim G!!! Year after year, very generous! Sean

Thanks Irv! Dialed it back a bit this year. You're always one the first! Thanks for the generous donation!! Sean

Despite Rupert passing in December.2019 we are still trying to give back!! Every year Rupert and I raise funds to give back to the organization that saved his life and enriched mine. I know money is tight and I don't want anyone to feel any pressure to donate. We are accepting positive thoughts and comments as well!!! As many know, Rupert was hit by a car Christmas eve 2009. I found him while on duty Christmas morning. He was in the median of the 401 and had been there so long his body heat melted the ice and snow leaving him in a puddle of water. Despite several broken bones in his left rear leg and a blown out right rear knee he did not whimper, bark or bite when I picked him up. I could hear his bones grinding... but he was tough!! and stubborn...soooo very stubborn. A plea for his owner went out... he was only about a year old and obviously some ones pet. Turned out he was owned by a violent drug dealer who used to beat on him (drug dealer burned to death in deal gone bad 6mnths later). The plea brought in enough donations to fix Rupert's injuries and with the donation of an amazing rehab vet, Dr Cherie White he learned to walk again!! He can now chase down rabbits and squirrels!!! Please add your own stories to this thread as well!!! I've attached the donation site.. You guys have helped me raise the most money each year since I've started. I can't thank you enough for that!!!!! They've created an award for the top fundraiser and named it the Annual Rupert Award!!! This has been such a humbling experience...ups and downs... damn doggies!!! I'm glad I've been able to drag you guys along kicking and screaming!!!! I know 2020-21 has been a fkd up couple of years so I'm not expecting much. Awareness and well wishes go a long way as well!!!! Donate here ---> https://www.canadahelps.org/me/jjb4WgK The story of Rupert   “Rupert was struck by a car early Christmas morning 2009 on a bleak stretch of the 401 highway just west of Kingston. The stalwart Lab was found in a ditch where he'd dragged himself after suffering severe injuries to both hind legs, including a shattered femur and badly torn ligaments. OPP officer, Sean McCaffrey was directed to the dog by a passerby. "After being flagged down, I followed the small trail of blood to the dog who, having lain there long enough to melt the snow and ice beneath him, was shivering in a pool of frigid water," said McCaffrey. "Rupert did not whine or growl when I approached him. He shivered and wagged his tail and gobbled some food and allowed me to cover him with my coat and hold him to warm him."  Rupert was transported to the Kingston Regional Pet Hospital. The next morning, Boxing Day, brought a sad turn to the dog's story. It seemed that Rupert's injuries might be too severe to be successfully operable. The afternoon of the 26th saw an improved prognosis for Rupert, with recovery possible although amputation of one leg likely. Rupert's comfort was a priority throughout the evaluation period and he was kept pain-free and at ease. Rupert's case was then brought to the attention of Dr. Parker and the Ottawa orthopedic surgeon agreed to assess Rupert at Alta Vista. Not only did Dr. Parker think he could help the dog, he believed that both legs could be saved.  So the young dog made the trip from Kingston to Ottawa late on the 29th and spent the morning of the 30th being assessed. Following the exam, Dr. Parker began surgery to pin and plate the broken femur and repair the torn ligaments in the other leg. "I spoke with Dr. Parker, a veterinarian orthopedic surgeon at Alta Vista Animal Hospital in Ottawa. He has fully assessed Rupert and he feels the prognosis for Rupert is quite good," said Janice Saunders, president of the Kingston Humane Society, in a release dated December 30th. "The current plan is to repair Rupert's fractured left hip. Damage to the cruciate ligament in the right hind leg was also detected and Dr. Parker is repairing this injury during [the] surgery as well." The following morning Rupert underwent a final surgery to adjust the plate and pins and then spent the next five days resting and recovering from the successful but arduous surgery. When Rupert was first brought to the emergency clinic in Kingston he was a stray with no identifiable owner. The Kingston Humane Society sent out a plea to locate Rupert's owner, unsure of the dog's future and seeking a reunion. The community responded immediately offering concern and financial support for the dog.” 1297814_10153165580320515_20019_n.mp4

I have no idea what happened so can't really offer any insight. If I knew, and it was allowed to be public I'd share. SIU gets activated if the injuries are serious in nature...broken bones etc.

Enjoy the party!! And if it's yours.... happy freakin birthday!! For what it's worth. We are not actively looking for these events.. it's nosey neighbours calling it in.... last thing we want to do. Ugh.

Honestly, in my region we've only laid a few. And they were laid on out of area people...that were...ummm.... not doing good things... I wouldn't be surprised at them being withdrawn/dismissed just based on the climate. I can't see a valid constitutional argument though, given it's an extreme public health concern..