Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 22, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Skidooski said: All I'm saying is most the new programs being developed in advanced design are EV's. Rumors of even postponing the new GM truck program but still work the EV's. The new trend..... It's coming No doubt but we will spend 10's of billions on charging stations before there is a real need for them. Oh well its what we do in America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, Skidooski said: All I'm saying is most the new programs being developed in advanced design are EV's. Rumors of even postponing the new GM truck program but still work the EV's. The new trend..... It's coming TBH, if I could get my wife to go for an EV as her daily driver, we'd probably have one by now. She's not convinced on the range and tech... which is dumb because she never drives on the highway or goes more than 15 miles from home. For the vast majority of suburban homeowners, at least one EV in the fleet makes total sense if you can charge it up at night. Even if we'd only charge on 110v, an EV would fit the bill for us perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted June 22, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Matt said: TBH, if I could get my wife to go for an EV as her daily driver, we'd probably have one by now. She's not convinced on the range and tech... which is dumb because she never drives on the highway or goes more than 15 miles from home. For the vast majority of suburban homeowners, at least one EV in the fleet makes total sense if you can charge it up at night. Even if we'd only charge on 110v, an EV would fit the bill for us perfectly. I drive maybe 20% of what I used to personally since the pandemic. Not sure I'll ever get back to where I was before so an EV makes a sense for me to an extent. Just not sure about pulling an enclosed trailer or boat with something like the Rivian truck just yet. Planning long road trips wont be as easy either lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 10 minutes ago, Skidooski said: All I'm saying is most the new programs being developed in advanced design are EV's. Rumors of even postponing the new GM truck program but still work the EV's. The new trend..... It's coming Dig a little into GM’s EV program and you’ll find it’s a lot of smoke and mirrors. I’ll be very surprised if they come though this transition period. Ford is doing fantastic as is Volkswagen. Energy density of batteries continues a steep trajectory. I don’t see the IC vehicle going away. At least not for the next 10-15 years. Who knows, there’s the possibility of a completely different technology emerging. EV’s definitely are the future though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 7 minutes ago, Skidooski said: I drive maybe 20% of what I used to personally since the pandemic. Not sure I'll ever get back to where I was before so an EV makes a sense for me to an extent. Just not sure about pulling an enclosed trailer or boat with something like the Rivian truck just yet. Planning long road trips wont be as easy either lol There’s a guy on YouTube that towed his boat over 200 miles and spent $7 refueling. For the vast majority of people a vehicle with a 200-280 mile range is completely satisfying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted June 22, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 minute ago, spin_dry said: There’s a guy on YouTube that towed his boat over 200 miles and spent $7 refueling. For the vast majority of people a vehicle with a 200-280 mile range is completely satisfying For me to go snowmobiling in the UP it's 350+ miles which is why I hardly ride anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Just now, Skidooski said: For me to go snowmobiling in the UP it's 350+ miles which is why I hardly ride anymore Spending 5 hours driving over a combination of black ice and slush stopped being fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted June 22, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Highmark said: No doubt but we will spend 10's of billions on charging stations before there is a real need for them. Oh well its what we do in America. Or we'll have all these EV's purchased and no charging stations to sustain them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 23 minutes ago, Highmark said: No doubt but we will spend 10's of billions on charging stations before there is a real need for them. Oh well its what we do in America. Or build more EV’s when there aren’t enough charging stations. Then you can whine about that. Sheesh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pete Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Yeah.. so reliable .. paleezzee Ford Motor Co. is recalling nearly 50,000 Mustang Mach-Es and telling dealers to pause deliveries of the all-electric crossover due to a safety defect that could result in Pub Info power loss. The Dearborn automaker has filed a recall notice with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration regarding an issue on some Mach-Es that can cause the vehicle's high-voltage battery main contactors to overheat, according to the company. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/ford/2022/06/14/ford-recalls-nearly-50-000-mustang-mach-es-halts-deliveries/7622052001/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 22, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 22, 2022 15 minutes ago, Skidooski said: Or we'll have all these EV's purchased and no charging stations to sustain them Shouldn't be the govt's responsibility to pay for them. I'm all for putting them wherever the free market thinks they are necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, spin_dry said: There’s a guy on YouTube that towed his boat over 200 miles and spent $7 refueling. For the vast majority of people a vehicle with a 200-280 mile range is completely satisfying If I could get something that would do 200 miles with the RV on it and recharge in 20 minutes, I'd give it a very serious look. I don't think we're as far from that as people think. 200 miles is about the max range I can get out of a tank of dino juice with the current gasser and its 26 gallon tank. Less than that in a headwind. Driving unloaded at those same speeds though, I can get 570 miles on that same tank. So we're talking about an EV with likely 600 mile range assuming losses will be similar. Edited June 23, 2022 by Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted June 22, 2022 Author Gold Member Share Posted June 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Less than 1% of the 250 million cars on the road are EV. Its a ways down the road yet. 1% but the share of new sales double last year and is around 5%. If it doubles again this year like it did last it will be 1 in 10 new vehicles bought will be plug-in. It doesn’t take to many years of increasing market share before Electric becomes the dominate form of transportation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nascarmike Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 hours ago, Pete said: Yeah.. so reliable .. paleezzee Ford Motor Co. is recalling nearly 50,000 Mustang Mach-Es and telling dealers to pause deliveries of the all-electric crossover due to a safety defect that could result in Pub Info power loss. The Dearborn automaker has filed a recall notice with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration regarding an issue on some Mach-Es that can cause the vehicle's high-voltage battery main contactors to overheat, according to the company. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/ford/2022/06/14/ford-recalls-nearly-50-000-mustang-mach-es-halts-deliveries/7622052001/ Just a software update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nascarmike Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Highmark said: Less than 1% of the 250 million cars on the road are EV. Its a ways down the road yet. They want to shove this down our throats right now and not look back, to hell with everybody that is stuck with ICE automobiles. That's why gas is at $5.00 right now. Think about these numbers: US Auto Production is around 15 million 225,000 drivers in the US How long will it take if all US manufacturers made nothing but EV's for everyone to get even one of these? Edited June 23, 2022 by nascarmike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 10 hours ago, BOHICA said: Spaced out Every 50 miles on main routes and every 70 miles in rural areas per Fox News https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/texas-unveils-plan-install-hundreds-ev-charging-stations-across-state.amp Got to give the liberals incentive to go back home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Matt said: TBH, if I could get my wife to go for an EV as her daily driver, we'd probably have one by now. She's not convinced on the range and tech... which is dumb because she never drives on the highway or goes more than 15 miles from home. For the vast majority of suburban homeowners, at least one EV in the fleet makes total sense if you can charge it up at night. Even if we'd only charge on 110v, an EV would fit the bill for us perfectly. I have thought about it for a work truck just a tough $$ pill to swallow . Add the fact the lighting only has a 5.5 foot bed a non starter . But yeah for a work truck it would be fine hell I could steal 110 power on almost every job lol I always have ext cables running to the truck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 hours ago, nascarmike said: They want to shove this down our throats right now and not look back, to hell with everybody that is stuck with ICE automobiles. That's why gas is at $5.00 right now. Think about these numbers: US Auto Production is around 15 million 225,000 drivers in the US How liong will it take if all US manufacturers made nothing but EV's for everyone to get even one of these? That is fine and dandy but how long till America can make enough power to charge them all with out rolling black outs . How long till neighborhoods can get wire large enough to support a career in more than 10 garages ? Decades at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted June 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 23, 2022 Just now, Ez ryder said: That is fine and dandy but how long till America can make enough power to charge them all with out rolling black outs . How long till neighborhoods can get wire large enough to support a career in more than 10 garages ? Decades at best You only need 50 amps for fast charge at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nascarmike Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: That is fine and dandy but how long till America can make enough power to charge them all with out rolling black outs . How long till neighborhoods can get wire large enough to support a career in more than 10 garages ? Decades at best That's the other ugly side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICG Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Matt said: TBH, if I could get my wife to go for an EV as her daily driver, we'd probably have one by now. She's not convinced on the range and tech... which is dumb because she never drives on the highway or goes more than 15 miles from home. For the vast majority of suburban homeowners, at least one EV in the fleet makes total sense if you can charge it up at night. Even if we'd only charge on 110v, an EV would fit the bill for us perfectly. Spend an hour at your local Audi dealer looking and driving a etron GT RS... the Technology in the product is cutting edge. Range is around 200 miles, and top speed exceeds 150mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, ICG said: Spend an hour at your local Audi dealer looking and driving a etron GT RS... the Technology in the product is cutting edge. Range is around 200 miles, and top speed exceeds 150mph. I prefer 500ish miles and a top speed of 174.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Steve753 Posted June 23, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 23, 2022 25 minutes ago, Snake said: I prefer 500ish miles and a top speed of 174.... What size tank on your BMW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 59 minutes ago, Steve753 said: What size tank on your BMW? 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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