Guest Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yes...I blew a belt with 700 miles on it and an unknown spare. Every sled that day blew belts. Every clutch was boiling hot. 12” of powder over 12” of slush. It had nothing to do with clutching. Page 12,,Arctic Cat owners excuse book. You just got fucking You can tell your bullshit story somewhere else.Clutchmeister and a liar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, HSR said: Page 12,,Arctic Cat owners excuse book. You just got fucking You can tell your bullshit story somewhere else.Clutchmeister and a liar I told the story the same way every time you fucking lying piece of shit. 1800 miles on the next belt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 HSR recommended I do some clutching .....Glen Hall said stock clutching works well Wonder who I should have listened to fucking brain dead moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, f7ben said: I told the story the same way every time you fucking lying piece of shit. 1800 miles on the next belt 8 minutes ago, f7ben said: HSR recommended I do some clutching .....Glen Hall said stock clutching works well Wonder who I should have listened to fucking brain dead moron Poor Ben,,,,,,,TBP here we come Glenn Hall says DERPPPPPPPPP Moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, HSR said: Poor Ben,,,,,,,TBP here we come Glenn Hall says DERPPPPPPPPP Moron Yah...you’re dumb as fuck and you got owned. It’s right in the video that started the thread you stupid fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted March 10, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 10, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: Yah...you’re dumb as fuck and you got owned. It’s right in the video that started the thread you stupid fuck I said you blew 2 belts in 50 miles,,you called me a liar and Momo. I showed you your post and I'm dumb as fuck?????? You're 1 step above Frankie really Hi my name is HSR and I'm here to annoy F7momo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted March 10, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 10, 2022 What are you riding Bhen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Rigid1 said: What are you riding Bhen? No sled this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, HSR said: I said you blew 2 belts in 50 miles,,you called me a liar and Momo. I showed you your post and I'm dumb as fuck?????? You're 1 step above Frankie really Hi my name is HSR and I'm here to annoy F7momo Kill yourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted March 10, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, f7ben said: No sled this year Sorry, able to get out at all? Friends sleds? Edited March 10, 2022 by Rigid1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Rigid1 said: Sorry Was the best snow year in recent memory as well. Still 3-4’ on the ground here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, f7ben said: Was the best snow year in recent memory as well. Still 3-4’ on the ground here. Belt blowing territory for you F7momo 2 belts=50 miles My CluTcHing Is PeRfEcT Retard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Hey Pal do you even get out on sleds?? Holy fuck 53,821 posts?? WTF get a life man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 In case he ask. My winter was great. 275008553_5000417523350621_7823172940535790789_n.mp4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, HSR said: Belt blowing territory for you F7momo 2 belts=50 miles My CluTcHing Is PeRfEcT Retard Yah two belts in 2500 miles at 260 hp. Fucking kill yourself you mind numbing dumb fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J. Jackson Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) I'm a little confused. When Bhen talks about stock clutching are we talking with no mods to the clutch whatsoever or what? Edited March 10, 2022 by J. Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 6 minutes ago, J. Jackson said: I'm a little confused. When Bhen talks about stock clutching are we talking with no mods to the clutch whatsoever or what? We are talking about clutch calibration as it came from the factory. Watch the video in the OP. They take a stock mach and crank the boost up without changing clutching and it puts bus lengths on an untuned sled. That is because they moved the target rpm up significantly with the tune and the stock clutching which works well at 7700rpm and 175hp works just as well at 8300rpm and 200hp. Retard HSR said that was impossible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldslowsledder Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Is it not likely that the tune improved performance but if you clutched it then it would be even better? That's my take on it. Reminds me of back in the day we'd swap a cam and intake on a small block Chev, throw on a set of headers and absolutely performance would be better, but if you through a gear swap in the diff it would wake the thing right up. Thanks for hi-jacking the thread anyways, figured it would turn into a "What a disappointment the Mach Z is" bashing, this is much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, oldslowsledder said: Is it not likely that the tune improved performance but if you clutched it then it would be even better? That's my take on it. Reminds me of back in the day we'd swap a cam and intake on a small block Chev, throw on a set of headers and absolutely performance would be better, but if you through a gear swap in the diff it would wake the thing right up. Thanks for hi-jacking the thread anyways, figured it would turn into a "What a disappointment the Mach Z is" bashing, this is much better Yes if you dialed in the clutching you might see some additional improvement. That has never been disputed. As it is stock turbo clutching can work very well at significantly higher power levels if you shift the target rpm higher. On my sled and my buddy’s we ran D&D slingshot flashes. Max effort tune at 260+ hp. They ran stock clutching and both sleds run great. They are as fast or faster than the speedwerx and bikeman 4 stage sleds in the group. Edited March 10, 2022 by f7ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 All this talk about how the Mach Z is a dog. My turbo Renegade (non R) would do an honest buck five out of the box on GPS, I have a buddy who's got one with a 14"x1" track and a few other chassis tricks, and maybe a header. It has hit 122 several times. Its all in the tuning for sure. I have little doubt the Mach Z should crack 110 out of the box on good hardpan/ice at minimum, if its set up right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: All this talk about how the Mach Z is a dog. My turbo Renegade (non R) would do an honest buck five out of the box on GPS, I have a buddy who's got one with a 14"x1" track and a few other chassis tricks, and maybe a header. It has hit 122 several times. Its all in the tuning for sure. I have little doubt the Mach Z should crack 110 out of the box on good hardpan/ice at minimum, if its set up right. Pure top speed numbers mean nothing. It’s how long it takes to get there and the 900 gets an absolute dirty gape laid on it in a race against other real turbo sleds. It’s a 200hp motor when fully tuned and it runs like 200hp motor or slower. That doesn’t cut it against any other turbo sled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, f7ben said: Pure top speed numbers mean nothing. It’s how long it takes to get there and the 900 gets an absolute dirty gape laid on it in a race against other real turbo sleds. It’s a 200hp motor when fully tuned and it runs like 200hp motor or slower. That doesn’t cut it against any other turbo sled. I get your point. I just mean a couple guys line up on a lake and wring them out for a half mile or more. To the guys who sit around the lake all day scratching their nuts to shave a tenth off or add a couple mph to their 1000 ft. time it might. Or a racer who's actually racing. My cousins still do that shit, I got over it years ago, spending more time wrenching then riding. Whether its in the same class as the Yam turbo motor, I doubt it. Don't care either. I'm just a fan of that Doo motor power/weight wise it the honey spot imo. I haven't ridden a Yam turbo, just have my old Suzuki turbo to compare it to, and that thing was a beast to handle on a twisty bumpy trail compared to a 2 stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: I get your point. I just mean a couple guys line up on a lake and wring them out for a half mile or more. To the guys who sit around the lake all day scratching their nuts to shave a tenth off or add a couple mph to their 1000 ft. time it might. Or a racer who's actually racing. My cousins still do that shit, I got over it years ago, spending more time wrenching then riding. Whether its in the same class as the Yam turbo motor, I doubt it. Don't care either. I'm just a fan of that Doo motor power/weight wise it the honey spot imo. I haven't ridden a Yam turbo, just have my old Suzuki turbo to compare it to, and that thing was a beast to handle on a twisty bumpy trail compared to a 2 stroke. I love the doo chassis as well but I got bored with the 850 power pretty fast and by most accounts the 900 doesn’t run much faster than a well setup 850. If I’m going to ride a tuned turbo sled it better put that shit eating grin on my face coming out of a corner at 30 and rolling into the power. The cat at 260hp got that for me. I doubt the 900 would. Maybe I’m wrong....I’d like to ride one Edited March 10, 2022 by f7ben 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: I love the doo chassis as well but I got board with the 850 power pretty fast and by most accounts the 900 doesn’t run much faster than a well setup 850. If I’m going to ride a tuned turbo sled it better put that shit eating grin on my face coming out of a corner at 30 and rolling into the power. The cat at 260hp got that for me. I doubt the 900 would. Maybe I’m wrong....I’d like to ride one Yeah, I'm not wanting for more power than my 850 puts out on the trails. They rip pretty good for sure. Wished they dind't use so much oil, but thats supposedly how they stay together. Gas mileage is actually pretty damn good too. Top end is a little disappointing, but I'm wanting to go over 100 mph less and less. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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