f7ben Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, HSR said: No need that is all I stated and your hero agreed , you clutch for peak power. Why wouldn't you?? You're belt blowing POS is proof it doesn't work. Man are you a fucking dumbfuck. The very next line of that quote is ”The exception to this” You fucking disingenuous piece of fucking retarded shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, f7ben said: Man are you a fucking dumbfuck. The very next line of that quote is ”The exception to this” You fucking disingenuous piece of fucking retarded shit Obviously, like others have noted, clutch calibration needs to be set for the maximum anticipated power level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, f7ben said: It’s not a bandaid. If you take 300hp at 7700rpm and 300hp at 8800 rpm the lower rpm sled will probably be slightly faster but it’s going to need much more octane right. Clutching it properly makes it faster. If you’re getting less detonation problems by unloading the engine then you aren’t working it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, ACE said: right. Clutching it properly makes it faster. If you’re getting less detonation problems by unloading the engine then you aren’t working it But if you’re trail riding and not racing what difference does that slight improvement make if it costs you det resistance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 9, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: It’s not a bandaid. If you take 300hp at 7700rpm and 300hp at 8800 rpm the lower rpm sled will probably be slightly faster but it’s going to need much more octane Yep. With my STM set up I was trying to really work the motor down to mid 8's. Ended up even a bit lower and couldn't stay off the deto sensor even on c16. Lots of guys also claimed the 998 didn't like the harmonics of the 4 post. Thing was a complete animal on that set up but obviously I didn't stay with it for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, Highmark said: Yep. With my STM set up I was trying to really work the motor down to mid 8's. Ended up even a bit lower and couldn't stay off the deto sensor even on c16. Lots of guys also claimed the 998 didn't like the harmonics of the 4 post. Thing was a complete animal on that set up but obviously I didn't stay with it for long. I honestly like the buzzier snappier feeling of light clutching and high rpm. You’d have trouble telling they are slower unless lining up or running on timers. The rev happy motor is more fun to ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, f7ben said: But if you’re trail riding and not racing what difference does that slight improvement make if it costs you det resistance? Boostane tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 9, 2022 Author Share Posted March 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, f7ben said: I honestly like the buzzier snappier feeling of light clutching and high rpm. You’d have trouble telling they are slower unless lining up or running on timers. The rev happy motor is more fun to ride. Well that’s a different issue but I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted March 9, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted March 9, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, f7ben said: I honestly like the buzzier snappier feeling of light clutching and high rpm. You’d have trouble telling they are slower unless lining up or running on timers. The rev happy motor is more fun to ride. Agreed. Also may backshift a bit better which is a huge deal for me even on boosted turbo's. Edited March 9, 2022 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I think HSR might have actually killed himself this time!!!! I finally won!!!! Yay Me !!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 54 minutes ago, f7ben said: I think HSR might have actually killed himself this time!!!! I finally won!!!! Yay Me !!! Obviously, like others have noted, clutch calibration needs to be set for the maximum anticipated power level Ben this started over YOU adding 60?hp to YOUR stock clutching,,I felt you should do some clutching ,,you felt otherwise. Then you say your STOCK set up runs high on rpm and clutches hot. Blew 2 belts in 50 miles on a fucking river because the STOCK set up didn't work.THEN you claimed you changed to an aftermarket belt intentionally to reduce rpm and heat,,,why? Because stock didn't work. Nobody was talking about the "exception to the rule". So if I annoy you,,right the fuck on,,,I will continue to until you quit bringing me up or you run away to TBP again,,which ever comes first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 48 minutes ago, HSR said: Obviously, like others have noted, clutch calibration needs to be set for the maximum anticipated power level Ben this started over YOU adding 60?hp to YOUR stock clutching,,I felt you should do some clutching ,,you felt otherwise. Then you say your STOCK set up runs high on rpm and clutches hot. Blew 2 belts in 50 miles on a fucking river because the STOCK set up didn't work.THEN you claimed you changed to an aftermarket belt intentionally to reduce rpm and heat,,,why? Because stock didn't work. Nobody was talking about the "exception to the rule". So if I annoy you,,right the fuck on,,,I will continue to until you quit bringing me up or you run away to TBP again,,which ever comes first. That is bullshit. I put 700 miles on before the first belt blew and the 2nd one was unknown condition. I then went 1800 hard miles on the next belt. You are a liar and a momo who is dumb as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 YOU CANT ADD POWER WITHOUT CHANGING CLUTCHING DERRRR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) And I added closer to 90hp you dumbfuck retard and the next owner is still running the same setup Edited March 10, 2022 by f7ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Holy triggered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 4 minutes ago, HSR said: Holy triggered YOU GOT PWND !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, f7ben said: YOU GOT PWND !!!! You've never pwnd anybody on clutching on 2 sites Tom schooled you in Tomas's thread You're a joke son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, HSR said: You've never pwnd anybody on clutching on 2 sites Tom schooled you in Tomas's thread You're a joke son Well Tom loves to troll me but even he couldn’t disagree on the turbo clutching. You got owned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 17 minutes ago, f7ben said: Well Tom loves to troll me but even he couldn’t disagree on the turbo clutching. You got owned No U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, HSR said: No U I SAID U Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, f7ben said: I SAID U AND I SAID U!!!1111!!!!!111!!!! FTW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 1/2/2021 at 8:36 AM, f7ben said: I blew 2 belts in 50 miles. My clutches we boiling hot. 1 hour ago, f7ben said: That is bullshit. I put 700 miles on before the first belt blew and the 2nd one was unknown condition. I then went 1800 hard miles on the next belt. You are a liar and a momo who is dumb as fuck. Ok F7momo. Motherfucking What a fucking bullshitter,you can't even remember what you post SHUT ER DOWN OT !!!!!1111!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 minutes ago, HSR said: Ok F7momo. Motherfucking What a fucking bullshitter,you can't even remember what you post SHUT ER DOWN OT !!!!!1111!!!!!11!!!!!!!!!! Yes...I blew a belt with 700 miles on it and an unknown spare. Every sled that day blew belts. Every clutch was boiling hot. 12” of powder over 12” of slush. It had nothing to do with clutching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 3 hours ago, ACE said: Nope. Intake harmonics play a role regardless of whether it’s boosted or NA And if you understood the rudimentary helmholtz equation you'd realize that the square of the pressure in the cavity is proportional to the resonance. So the only role here is in the designer not being an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deephaven Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Which is why EVERYONE who has a Cat turbo should be happy that Yamaha was involved. The fucknuts engineers that worked on engines at Cat were not capable of designing around that without outsourcing...and lots of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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