Guest Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Sleepr2 said: You lied about bragging about money, typical blowhard I never lied about money or bragged about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted September 25, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: I also don't like seeing a tradesman making a thousand bucks a day on me either. Why ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 19x10 porch roof, stucco a chimney, and repair an older rubber roof. He said 4 men for two days. That's about $1600.00 for the laborers. Cement for chimney about $100.00 Rubber roof membrane, plus adhesives ...$1000.00 ???? That's $2700.00 Where's the other $5700.00????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Why ? It's too much money. I don't mind a guy making a buck, but not a killing. Nobody does this work anymore, so they can pick and choose, and charge a ton. I know somebody that does this kind of work, booked for weeks if not months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger** Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 One of my co workers has a prescription for Ivermectin from his Doctor. He does have some health issues so the Doctor is using it to prevent him from getting COVID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted September 25, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: It's too much money. I don't mind a guy making a buck, but not a killing. Nobody does this work anymore, so they can pick and choose, and charge a ton. I know somebody that does this kind of work, booked for weeks if not months. You are talking about a trade that cannot be done everyday. Then you add in the risk and danger. There is nothing wrong with a dude making a grand a day for the days he can do the work. Not to mention he isnt going to be doing it at 60 yrs old as that kind of work destroys a body. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 All these roofers know their shit. They are smart businessmen. I call them for a patch-job, and the next thing I know they are giving me estimates for $19,000.00, or $8400.00. They never just offer to do the patch job, like I originally called them for. I feel like telling them to go fuck themselves. I know that I should rip the whole fukkin roof, and put down a new one, but That's not what I want for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted September 25, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 25, 2021 20 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: Yeah $8400.00 for a couple of small roof jobs, and some chimney work. I'll never see that money again. At least you won’t have to empty buckets of water every time it rains or dry out your carpet. 8,400 is cheap to be dry and mold free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted September 25, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: 19x10 porch roof, stucco a chimney, and repair an older rubber roof. He said 4 men for two days. That's about $1600.00 for the laborers. Cement for chimney about $100.00 Rubber roof membrane, plus adhesives ...$1000.00 ???? That's $2700.00 Where's the other $5700.00????? Well lets take a look Unemployment is around 20% of payroll now for a roofer thanks to covid and a yr of people getting paid to sit at home. Workmans comp on a roofer is running about 42 % of payroll , so there is another $672 Liability ins is about 7% of the total cost of the job theres another $588 Ya have to factor in truck repair and replacement. Cell phone and or landline bill Advertising The time he spent doing the estimate . $100 for the tools his employees will break while doing the job. There are a lot of associated costs that folks dont even think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Well lets take a look Unemployment is around 20% of payroll now for a roofer thanks to covid and a yr of people getting paid to sit at home. Workmans comp on a roofer is running about 42 % of payroll , so there is another $672 Liability ins is about 7% of the total cost of the job theres another $588 Ya have to factor in truck repair and replacement. Cell phone and or landline bill Advertising The time he spent doing the estimate . $100 for the tools his employees will break while doing the job. There are a lot of associated costs that folks dont even think about. Don’t confuse the blowhard with facts and reality. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: Well lets take a look Unemployment is around 20% of payroll now for a roofer thanks to covid and a yr of people getting paid to sit at home. Workmans comp on a roofer is running about 42 % of payroll , so there is another $672 Liability ins is about 7% of the total cost of the job theres another $588 Ya have to factor in truck repair and replacement. Cell phone and or landline bill Advertising The time he spent doing the estimate . $100 for the tools his employees will break while doing the job. There are a lot of associated costs that folks dont even think about. This is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 I guess I was right again. Not to hard to figure out some on this forum. It's ok to be fruggle, but don't cheat others out of what they do when you may do the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, racer254 said: I guess I was right again. Not to hard to figure out some on this forum. It's ok to be fruggle, but don't cheat others out of what they do when you may do the same. Can you put that in English? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: Can you put that in English? Yeah, pay them for the work. You need it done and you are not willing to do it yourself, so just pay them. Otherwise, if you haggled with me, I would say find someone else. They are not getting rich off of a 10k to 20k job. You are providing a fine example of the quote " the high cost of being cheap" Edited September 25, 2021 by racer254 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member 800renegaderider Posted September 25, 2021 Gold Member Share Posted September 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, racer254 said: Yeah, pay them for the work. You need it done and you are not willing to do it yourself, so just pay them. Otherwise, if you haggled with me, I would say find someone else. They are not getting rich off of a 10k to 20k job. You are providing a fine example of the quote " the high cost of being cheap" Cheap fucks always end up paying 10x more anyways. This idiot is a perfect example buys the cheapest junk he can at home depot and sure enough 8yrs later doing it again and making the same mistake of wanting cheap cheap cheap. Had he paid up and done it right the first time he’d be long dead before it needed to be done again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 800renegaderider said: Cheap fucks always end up paying 10x more anyways. This idiot is a perfect example buys the cheapest junk he can at home depot and sure enough 8yrs later doing it again and making the same mistake of wanting cheap cheap cheap. Had he paid up and done it right the first time he’d be long dead before it needed to be done again. I don't know what the real deal is, but I have done many jobs for people and most times, the people that bitch about paying are the ones that have the money and just don't want to pay. Then after you talk to others who done stuff for the same people, they tell you all about how they were treated the same. Had to beg to get paid or how they just didn't pay at all. Edited September 25, 2021 by racer254 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted September 25, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, racer254 said: I don't know what the real deal is, but I have done many jobs for people and most times, the people that bitch about paying are the ones that have the money and just don't want to pay. Then after you talk to others who done stuff for the same people, they tell you all about how they were treated the same. Had to beg to get paid or how they just didn't pay at all. If it was a small job send them an invoice with a letter stating that if not paid within 60 days ( or whatever) you will be writing off the debt. You will also be mailing them a 1099 , so they need to be sure to have their accountant file a amended tax return as the IRS considers forgiven debt as income. Most will realize that is creating an ass ache for them and just mail a check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Polaris 550 said: If I have to X, I'll patch it up for this year, but I don't want to re-do both those roofs. I'll see what this guy says Tuesday. If he gives me a decent price, I'll have him do it. If not...PATCH TIME... Jet get a post frame guy out . Have him drop some 2 inch r10 foam over the old shingels and poll barn steel it . Will last your and your kids life . You said you live in the stix so should be zero issues. Fucking shingles suck ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The One Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 7 hours ago, steve from amherst said: Your fucking 74 years old. Do them right and never have to touch them again. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? Doesnt have the money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis and Butt-Head Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 7 hours ago, steve from amherst said: You are talking about a trade that cannot be done everyday. Then you add in the risk and danger. There is nothing wrong with a dude making a grand a day for the days he can do the work. Not to mention he isn't going to be doing it at 60 yrs old as that kind of work destroys a body. exactly , its all about in the long run. this worker has to pay for healthcare and shit , many days he makes zero $$ just look at 08 , that sucked for this kind of work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomxz600 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 On 9/24/2021 at 9:09 PM, ActionfigureJoe said: It's not cheap. And being available through several mfg's it could be a huge money maker. Merck is the pharmaco that developed the drug for human use. That company has yet to get behind the drug for the use of Covid. So the financial angle makes no sense. Before the scandemic it was a over the counter drug without prescription and now if you walk in with a script the pharmacy will speak to you about why you want it even with the script, go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I've had TWO roofers come up for estimates, in the last year. NEITHER one of them came up with their own ladders!! Is that typical of roofers giving estimates??? They both asked me if I had a ladder!! I had to get one for them. Why did they not come up with their own ladders? What if I didn't have a ladder, or I was not able to lift a ladder? What fucking assholes!! They should have come up fully equipped, like a powerful tradesman, not a faggot asking a 74 year old customer for a ladder!! Fukkin faggots, no wonder that's why they are roof grubs. The owner did have a nice looking Dodge Ram truck though, so he must be doing something right. I'll tell ya' one person that won't be making his fukkin payments on that Ram. I look at getting an estimate, as an INTERVIEW PROCESS. These fukkin dummies don't realize that I'm analyzing them for efficiency, job knowledge, attitude, demeanor, and honesty. Fukkin punks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 13 hours ago, Sleepr2 said: Don’t confuse the blowhard with facts and reality. How about you stand up to me, instead of posting like a 13 year old girl? Will you go to PM, and start the process, or are you afraid of me?? Let's see if you go as good as your mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 13 hours ago, steve from amherst said: Well lets take a look Unemployment is around 20% of payroll now for a roofer thanks to covid and a yr of people getting paid to sit at home. Workmans comp on a roofer is running about 42 % of payroll , so there is another $672 Liability ins is about 7% of the total cost of the job theres another $588 Ya have to factor in truck repair and replacement. Cell phone and or landline bill Advertising The time he spent doing the estimate . $100 for the tools his employees will break while doing the job. There are a lot of associated costs that folks dont even think about. You think he knows what its like to run a business? Get 3 estimates from reputable companies and it should give you a pretty good range of what an appropriate price is. 13 hours ago, Polaris 550 said: Can you put that in English? He says "you're a brokeassniggah" 22 minutes ago, Polaris 550 said: How about you stand up to me, instead of posting like a 13 year old girl? Will you go to PM, and start the process, or are you afraid of me?? Let's see if you go as good as your mouth. Start the process? Now its a process? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: You think he knows what its like to run a business? Get 3 estimates from reputable companies and it should give you a pretty good range of what an appropriate price is. He says "you're a brokeassniggah" Start the process? Now its a process? Mark, STFU. You know I'm a heavy-weight, and you can't stand up to me, FINANCIALLY. So, STFU, OK? Go to the dock and play with your boat, which is costing you a fortune to own/operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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