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Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted August 30, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 30, 2021 Sleds around here seem to be priced about right, yeah there is the occasional nut job whose price is just stupid but for the most part seemed priced appropriately..Houses and cars/trucks are stupid high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 47 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Capitalism isn't synonymous with "market". That's one of the biggest propagandist lies you've swallowed. Markets existed long before capitalism and will after it's long gone. You either have a market economy or a command economy...either way, each party tries to maximize their interest (profit) If you exchanged weed for food...their would be a negotiation how much food do you get for how much weed...that interest is still profit driven. You want more weed to exchange for other goods besides food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 31 minutes ago, motonoggin said: That's oligarchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, SkisNH said: That's oligarchy No, it's capitalism. Capitalism will always decay into oligarchy and then fascism if left to its own devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, SkisNH said: You either have a market economy or a command economy...either way, each party tries to maximize their interest (profit) If you exchanged weed for food...their would be a negotiation how much food do you get for how much weed...that interest is still profit driven. You want more weed to exchange for other goods besides food. A market isn't capitalism. That's literally one of the biggest lies capitalists use to preserve control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, motonoggin said: A market isn't capitalism. That's literally one of the biggest lies capitalists use to preserve control. LULZ... So in ancient Mesopotamia a guy is selling rugs....is he doing it to help the starving fucks that don't work or for the benefit of his own family? If you have ever been over seas most cultures bargaining at a market or bizarre is the culture norm...why do they do it? Both parties are trying to maximize their interests. (Profit motive) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, SkisNH said: LULZ... So in ancient Mesopotamia a guy is selling rugs....is he doing it to help the starving fucks that don't work or for the benefit of his own family? If you have ever been over seas most cultures bargaining at a market or bizarre is the culture norm...why do they do it? Both parties are trying to maximize their interests. (Profit motive) Lmao. Capitalism has only been the dominant economic system for maybe 300 years and has only been around about 500 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Lmao. Capitalism has only been the dominant economic system for maybe 300 years and has only been around about 500 years. No...that is when some scholor gave it that name. Do you not think that the ancient Greeks participated in a market economy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just now, SkisNH said: No...that is when some scholor gave it that name. Do you not think that the ancient Greeks participated in a market economy? Again, a market isn't capitalism. Do I seriously have to educate such an avowed capitalist as yourself on the mechanics of your beloved system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Again, a market isn't capitalism. Do I seriously have to educate such an avowed capitalist as yourself on the mechanics of your beloved system? Yeah because there weren't rich people in ancient Greece who's sole purpose of exchanging goods was to increase their own interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 24 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Yeah because there weren't rich people in ancient Greece who's sole purpose of exchanging goods was to increase their own interest. Aristocrats. What did we learn? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 LMAO: wife's Kohl's card bill comes in the mail today. We carry zero credit card debt at all times, but some people are paying this rate??? Idk, but we keep a lot of liquid reserves in several banks and are lucky to get close to 1percent return. So, it's a fucking debters society and the lenders are pocketing 25% on idiots? Clearly 'this' is a path to a prosperous society. USA USA USA. LMAO, fucking morons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, SkisNH said: Yeah because there weren't rich people in ancient Greece who's sole purpose of exchanging goods was to increase their own interest. Lmao. You're really grasping fella 37 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said: LMAO: wife's Kohl's card bill comes in the mail today. We carry zero credit card debt at all times, but some people are paying this rate??? Idk, but we keep a lot of liquid reserves in several banks and are lucky to get close to 1percent return. So, it's a fucking debters society and the lenders are pocketing 25% on idiots? Clearly 'this' is a path to a prosperous society. USA USA USA. LMAO, fucking morons. If it weren't for that debt, the economy would crash. Capitalism requires low paid, indebted workers to maintain itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crnr2Crnr Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 12 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Lmao. You're really grasping fella If it weren't for that debt, the economy would crash. Capitalism requires low paid, indebted workers to maintain itself. excuse me, but where's the company store? we live in a society of people who lack the understanding of history and scale of economy. but, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, etc.... sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bontz Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 @motonoggin - You've made it abundantly clear you despise Capitalism. Being a business owner, what do you do to practice what you preach? I mean surely, your employees would enjoy seeing what you post here & proudly support your vision - right? You know, leading by example and all. So let's hear it ... you must not bother to make a profit for yourself as you share all profits with your employees? Or with all the money (profit) you're making - you must be feeding all of those in your community that can't feed themselves? I mean, there's no way you'd believe in keeping that hard earned money for you and your family Let me guess - your response to this question will be another one of your not-so-clever memes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Bontz said: @motonoggin - You've made it abundantly clear you despise Capitalism. Being a business owner, what do you do to practice what you preach? I mean surely, your employees would enjoy seeing what you post here & proudly support your vision - right? You know, leading by example and all. So let's hear it ... you must not bother to make a profit for yourself as you share all profits with your employees? Or with all the money (profit) you're making - you must be feeding all of those in your community that can't feed themselves? I mean, there's no way you'd believe in keeping that hard earned money for you and your family Let me guess - your response to this question will be another one of your not-so-clever memes. Lmao, it's hilarious you dumbfucks actually think an individual could do something about the global dictatorship of capital. Just shows how housetrained you are by your capitalist overlords. Absolutely zero capacity for critical thought. All just regurgitated propaganda. Edited August 31, 2021 by motonoggin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 5 hours ago, motonoggin said: just regurgitated propaganda. Pot meet kettle...capitalist bad / communism good Let me introduce you some propagandists.. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Polpot, Kim Jong IL, Che Guevara and Castro and the list goes on.... You have no perspective or knowledge of history.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Can the communist name any country’s that are still currently garnered as a better place to live, on the world stage, than the horrible, horrible United States of America? Are these communist countries having huge issues with illegal immigration too? Are these same countries called on by other countries around the world for support when shit hits the fan? Do these same countries pour millions of their own dollars into countries in need in humanitarian aid alone? Please oh great one, educate us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motonoggin Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 29 minutes ago, SkisNH said: Pot meet kettle...capitalist bad / communism good Let me introduce you some propagandists.. Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Polpot, Kim Jong IL, Che Guevara and Castro and the list goes on.... You have no perspective or knowledge of history.... Lmao, you still don't know the basic mechanics of capitalism, dingus 16 minutes ago, SayatodaU.P.eh? said: Can the communist name any country’s that are still currently garnered as a better place to live, on the world stage, than the horrible, horrible United States of America? Are these communist countries having huge issues with illegal immigration too? Are these same countries called on by other countries around the world for support when shit hits the fan? Do these same countries pour millions of their own dollars into countries in need in humanitarian aid alone? Please oh great one, educate us. Where has capitalism actually worked? If socialism is so bad, why does the US pour billions of dollars into stamping it out all over the globe? There is no such thing as a "communist country". Communism is stateless. There's your free education, dipshit. Typical reactionary toolbag, demanding a free spoon fed education on subjects he's perfectly capable of learning about on his own... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Lmao, you still don't know the basic mechanics of capitalism, dingus Where has capitalism actually worked? If socialism is so bad, why does the US pour billions of dollars into stamping it out all over the globe? There is no such thing as a "communist country". Communism is stateless. There's your free education, dipshit. Typical reactionary toolbag, demanding a free spoon fed education on subjects he's perfectly capable of learning about on his own... Let do this game: Let’s list all the places capitalism has failed then, let’s list all the places socialism has failed. You go first. Places Capitalism has failed: 1.) 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 ….it suddenly occurred to me that we need to define “failed” before you throw your back out moving the goal posts. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Lmao, you still don't know the basic mechanics of capitalism, dingus Where has capitalism actually worked? If socialism is so bad, why does the US pour billions of dollars into stamping it out all over the globe? There is no such thing as a "communist country". Communism is stateless. There's your free education, dipshit. Typical reactionary toolbag, demanding a free spoon fed education on subjects he's perfectly capable of learning about on his own... Clearly when you've lost your cool, you concede the argument. I believe the CCP and CCCP would disagree with you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkisNH Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 14 minutes ago, motonoggin said: Lmao, you still don't know the basic mechanics of capitalism, dingus Where has capitalism actually worked? Everywhere it's been tried...would you rather live in North Korea or South Korea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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