Zambroski Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: Say anything you want.....this is the only vaccine given to the public in massive quantities that did not pass animal trials. Anyone who took it is the trial. Without those longer animal trials we simply won't know for some time (years) if there are negative consequences. Met a lady on Saturday that just retired as a 35 year trauma nurse from Minneapolis. Her exact words about this covid scare were, “Complete fabrications and blatant lies from the medical community to get funds.” Then added that the shit they are doing now to cover themselves if felonious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 28, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 28, 2021 12 minutes ago, Zambroski said: Met a lady on Saturday that just retired as a 35 year trauma nurse from Minneapolis. Her exact words about this covid scare were, “Complete fabrications and blatant lies from the medical community to get funds.” Then added that the shit they are doing now to cover themselves if felonious. Whether or not the virus came from a lab or the wet market is important but not the only thing that makes China's actions so horrendous. Its the fact they knew they had a contagious respiratory virus spreading thru Wuhan and they restricted travel inside China but let people from Wuhan fly to Italy, the US, all over the world. If someone wants to dispute the origins until more evidence is available fine. There is no disputing the way China handled travel. Its well documented. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 https://ch1.ca/they-lied-and-people-die/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 41 minutes ago, Highmark said: Whether or not the virus came from a lab or the wet market is important but not the only thing that makes China's actions so horrendous. Its the fact they knew they had a contagious respiratory virus spreading thru Wuhan and they restricted travel inside China but let people from Wuhan fly to Italy, the US, all over the world. If someone wants to dispute the origins until more evidence is available fine. There is no disputing the way China handled travel. Its well documented. Don't you tread on China! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Whether or not the virus came from a lab or the wet market is important but not the only thing that makes China's actions so horrendous. Its the fact they knew they had a contagious respiratory virus spreading thru Wuhan and they restricted travel inside China but let people from Wuhan fly to Italy, the US, all over the world. If someone wants to dispute the origins until more evidence is available fine. There is no disputing the way China handled travel. Its well documented. Looking more and more like Canada was possibly involved too. Something happened at a lab In Winnipeg, Chinese scientists were escorted out and liberals are covering it up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Say anything you want.....this is the only vaccine given to the public in massive quantities that did not pass animal trials. Anyone who took it is the trial. Without those longer animal trials we simply won't know for some time (years) if there are negative consequences. Yeah. Listening to the inventor of the technology, it’s hard to even judge severe reactions in this mass trial for example if a young healthy 20 year old male has a heart attack after getting a vaccine, they may consider it vaccine related because a 20 year old shouldn’t have a heart attack if the same thing happens to an older male, they don’t consider it vaccine related because older men are more likely to have a heart attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, ACE said: Looking more and more like Canada was possibly involved too. Something happened at a lab In Winnipeg, Chinese scientists were escorted out and liberals are covering it up You ever seen anything like this in your life? An open and transparent gov't Trudeau said. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberal-government-asks-court-to-stop-commons-obtaining-full-records/ Edited June 28, 2021 by irv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 9 minutes ago, irv said: You ever seen anything like this in your life? An open and transparent gov't Trudeau said. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-liberal-government-asks-court-to-stop-commons-obtaining-full-records/ Don’t the courts have no jurisdiction over the house proceedings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 4 minutes ago, ACE said: Don’t the courts have no jurisdiction over the house proceedings? TBH, I have no idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 28, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, ACE said: Yeah. Listening to the inventor of the technology, it’s hard to even judge severe reactions in this mass trial for example if a young healthy 20 year old male has a heart attack after getting a vaccine, they may consider it vaccine related because a 20 year old shouldn’t have a heart attack if the same thing happens to an older male, they don’t consider it vaccine related because older men are more likely to have a heart attack. Personally I don't think we are hearing enough adverse reactions to make me hesitant at taking it however its the long term that is simply unknown. I wouldn't dream of giving it to a healthy person under 30. If they had serious pre-existing conditions is another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: Met a lady on Saturday that just retired as a 35 year trauma nurse from Minneapolis. Her exact words about this covid scare were, “Complete fabrications and blatant lies from the medical community to get funds.” Then added that the shit they are doing now to cover themselves if felonious. She voted for Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Zambroski said: Met a lady on Saturday that just retired as a 35 year trauma nurse from Minneapolis. Her exact words about this covid scare were, “Complete fabrications and blatant lies from the medical community to get funds.” Then added that the shit they are doing now to cover themselves if felonious. well if some random lady said it it must be true 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckf Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 16 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: well if some random lady said it it must be true Plus it's now on the interwebs.... Slam dunk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, Highmark said: Personally I don't think we are hearing enough adverse reactions to make me hesitant at taking it however its the long term that is simply unknown. I wouldn't dream of giving it to a healthy person under 30. If they had serious pre-existing conditions is another story. I think there is a lot more info from both the CDC and the WHO but that is being hidden. Same goes for doctor's and other medical staff. Those who are opposed to it are being silenced and banished. The precise number of these breakthrough cases is unknown, but figures released by states suggest it is at least several thousand. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which has had a team monitoring breakthrough infections since February, has partial data but has not made it public. https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ng-vaccinated/ https://www.newyorker.com/science/me...-covid-vaccine https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-v...er-reluctance/ https://www.dw.com/en/covid-why-some...ted/a-56162735 https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/s...cine-1.5872004 https://www.latimes.com/california/s...vaccine-access https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...-2021021721967 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 28, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, irv said: I think there is a lot more info from both the CDC and the WHO but that is being hidden. Same goes for doctor's and other medical staff. Those who are opposed to it are being silenced and banished. The precise number of these breakthrough cases is unknown, but figures released by states suggest it is at least several thousand. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which has had a team monitoring breakthrough infections since February, has partial data but has not made it public. https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...ng-vaccinated/ https://www.newyorker.com/science/me...-covid-vaccine https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-v...er-reluctance/ https://www.dw.com/en/covid-why-some...ted/a-56162735 https://www.cbc.ca/radio/whitecoat/s...cine-1.5872004 https://www.latimes.com/california/s...vaccine-access https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...-2021021721967 Completely agree and have been saying this from the beginning. Full disclosure and let the people decide. Don't make it worse than it is and don't sugarcoat it if it is really bad. Pretty clear the first occurred worldwide. Seen some amazing statistics on the Delta Variant in England that there is zero chance the MSM will put out. Edited June 28, 2021 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SayatodaU.P.eh? Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Highmark said: Completely agree and have been saying this from the beginning. Full disclosure and let the people decide. Seen some amazing statistics on the Delta Variant in England that there is zero chance the MSM will put out. Of course they won’t. Fear sells vaccines and obedience. Actual facts and truth do not do either of those things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Highmark said: Completely agree. Seen some amazing statistics on the Delta Variant in England that there is zero chance the MSM will put out. Like I've said before, if I post those links above on Facebook, they are quickly removed as not meeting community standards. Other things I've tried to post are removed as well. Same goes with the steady barrage of getting vaccine commercials, and like someone else said on here, there is never any mention of the possible side affects or adverse reactions. Watch a simple allergies commercial and the list of possible side affects is through the roof. We are definitely being pushed into getting these, and to me, anyways, that should be enough to throw up a red flag for anyone. Perfectly healthy people are dying from vaccines but there is a very slim chance you will see those being talked about on T.V. Why were US media silent on Pfizer vaccine deaths?: Global Times editorial. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212939.shtml Edited June 28, 2021 by irv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 11 minutes ago, Highmark said: Completely agree and have been saying this from the beginning. Full disclosure and let the people decide. Don't make it worse than it is and don't sugarcoat it if it is really bad. Pretty clear the first occurred worldwide. Seen some amazing statistics on the Delta Variant in England that there is zero chance the MSM will put out. Delta variant is a big fat nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 28, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, irv said: Like I've said before, if I post those links above on Facebook, they are quickly removed as not meeting community standards. Other things I've tried to post are removed as well. Same goes with the steady barrage of getting vaccine commercials, and like someone else said on here, there is never any mention of the possible side affects or adverse reactions. Watch a simple allergies commercial and the list of possible side affects is through the roof. We are definitely being pushed into getting these, and to me, anyways, that should be enough to throw up a red flag for anyone. Perfectly healthy people are dying from vaccines but there is a very slim chance you will see those being talked about on T.V. Why were US media silent on Pfizer vaccine deaths?: Global Times editorial. https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202101/1212939.shtml The lack of information on the side effects is likely legal because its not the drug mfg doing the ad which is bullshit. I do know the threshold for pulling fully FDA approved vaccines is very low. I've seen articles on this compared to Covid and while they don't produce a significantly high rate of serious side effects a fully approved vaccine would be pulled. That's why this will likely never be fully approved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 53 minutes ago, Highmark said: Personally I don't think we are hearing enough adverse reactions to make me hesitant at taking it however its the long term that is simply unknown. I wouldn't dream of giving it to a healthy person under 30. If they had serious pre-existing conditions is another story. Experts are saying they believe adverse reactions are very under reported but I completely agree. If you’re in an at risk category the vaccine may be the lesser of two evils but if you’re younger and have zero health issues then I don’t see the point in taking it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Highmark said: The lack of information on the side effects is likely legal because its not the drug mfg doing the ad which is bullshit. I do know the threshold for pulling fully FDA approved vaccines is very low. I've seen articles on this compared to Covid and while they don't produce a significantly high rate of serious side effects a fully approved vaccine would be pulled. That's why this will likely never be fully approved. The ones I am mostly referring to are the ones I see every 5 minutes during the NHL hockey games. Easy to figure out they are designed to make you feel guilty, feel ashamed, for not getting the vaccine, and those are straight from the Gov't of Canada as it states that at the end of the commercial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 28, 2021 Author Share Posted June 28, 2021 Just now, irv said: The ones I am mostly referring to are the ones I see every 5 minutes during the NHL hockey games. Easy to figure out they are designed to make you feel guilty, feel ashamed, for not getting the vaccine, and those are straight from the Gov't of Canada as it states that at the end of the commercial. Part of me thinks is governments knew what was released and feared it was much worse than it turned out to be and that was the cause for the severe over reaction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 28, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 28, 2021 1 minute ago, irv said: The ones I am mostly referring to are the ones I see every 5 minutes during the NHL hockey games. Easy to figure out they are designed to make you feel guilty, feel ashamed, for not getting the vaccine, and those are straight from the Gov't of Canada as it states that at the end of the commercial. Yeah only the drug makers ad have to list side effects and they have to list God damn near everything. Its almost laughable when you see some of the commercials. Its like damn I'd rather have the disease. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irv Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, ACE said: Experts are saying they believe adverse reactions are very under reported but I completely agree. If you’re in an at risk category the vaccine may be the lesser of two evils but if you’re younger and have zero health issues then I don’t see the point in taking it My Uncle had the rones and either this past Friday or the one coming up, he is getting his second dose. He is 70, smokes weed like it is going out of style but otherwise in decent shape. It makes zero sense, to me anyways, why he is getting it but I know, due to what he watches on T.V. alone, that is enough for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted June 28, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 28, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ACE said: Part of me thinks is governments knew what was released and feared it was much worse than it turned out to be and that was the cause for the severe over reaction Its really not a that far fetched assumption. I will say this...even Fauci was downplaying it early. As was every dem. Remember Pelosi and de Blasio telling everyone to go to the parades and movies and what not. Edited June 28, 2021 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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