You faggots happy about the 4.3 cent per liter carbon tax you will be paying starting January 1st

[revrnd]

http://www.wpxi.com/news/shocking-timelapse-video-shows-wall-of-smog-cover-beijing-china/480619229

Windsor sees the same shit (on a smaller scale) from the industry across the river in Dearborn (Rouge Steel/Marathon Oil). A person has to be delusional to think that Wynnebag's scheme will help curtail pollution in Ontario, let alone the world.

[Poncho]

1 hour ago, Catman said:

Opinion vs science.  I don't have an opinion on it, it is an unequivocal fact that global warming is occuring at unprecedented levels and man is theven cause.

Yes you are that fucking stupid to think that 2x the co2 in the atmosphere along with all the other greenhouse gases is actually a good thing because, well. Plants!    MORON!

Poor Scat......we see you have no opinion, or knowledge for that matter, where are these facts?...anyway.....read below, but please tell us how more tax dollars will help.....

Climate change or rather the climate change hoax....
- CO2, which is actually a "good" gas as it is the gas of life for plants at the base of the, constitutes 0.04% of the gas in the atmosphere - the earth, through its own natural processes, creates about 98.5% of the CO2, leaving man's contribution of 1.5% of a gas that is 0.04% of the atmosphere. Canada creates 1.7% of the CO2 created by man, which is only 1.5% of the CO2 created, which is only 0.04% of the atmosphere multiply it together and Canada contributes 0.000255% of the C02 created every year, comprising of 0.00000012% of the atmosphere.
 

[02sled]

We better tax the hell out of that. It's raging out of control 

[Catman]

1 hour ago, revrnd said:

http://www.wpxi.com/news/shocking-timelapse-video-shows-wall-of-smog-cover-beijing-china/480619229

Windsor sees the same shit (on a smaller scale) from the industry across the river in Dearborn (Rouge Steel/Marathon Oil). A person has to be delusional to think that Wynnebag's scheme will help curtail pollution in Ontario, let alone the world.

So China is implementing a national cap and trade policy in 2017 and have been running a model for years on an area with over 90m people.

If we do nothing they will do nothing; It's a level playing field. The Chinese leadership was in Canada just recently talking to Trudeau about this.

19 minutes ago, Poncho said:

Poor Scat......we see you have no opinion, or knowledge for that matter, where are these facts?...anyway.....read below, but please tell us how more tax dollars will help.....

Climate change or rather the climate change hoax....
- CO2, which is actually a "good" gas as it is the gas of life for plants at the base of the, constitutes 0.04% of the gas in the atmosphere - the earth, through its own natural processes, creates about 98.5% of the CO2, leaving man's contribution of 1.5% of a gas that is 0.04% of the atmosphere. Canada creates 1.7% of the CO2 created by man, which is only 1.5% of the CO2 created, which is only 0.04% of the atmosphere multiply it together and Canada contributes 0.000255% of the C02 created every year, comprising of 0.00000012% of the atmosphere.
 

A. Where is your link? Typing it in big letters doesn't make it any more truthful. Yes .04% of the atmosphere is co2 or 400 ppm.  Naural levels are somewhere around 250 ppm.  The levels today are unprecedented and are directly related to the temperature rise we have seen and which continues to break records and melt the arctic ice cap. 

B. Canada is a leader in the world,  a G7 country and if we did nothing to reduce our footprint, how could we expect countries like the USA or China who contribute most of the greenhouse gases?

C.  What are you arguing exactly?  It seems you and most other climate change deniers bounce from 1 point to another.  You reference Canada not being important in terms of global warming due to how much we pollute compared to other countries but it seems you suggest that pollution doesn't matter anyways or that adding 2x the co2 shouldn't be called "pollution" because it occurs naturally.  LMAO.  In fact you suggest that the guy who says we need MORE co2 is on the right track.  You're a genuine contradiction.

D. The proof is widespead.   I already posted a link from NASA.  The thing is you're still trying to argue it doesnt exist when the vast majority of the scientific community, business and international governments have all reached consensus that mmgw not only ecists but that it's at a dire point.

Here is some light reading from the American Institute of Physics, not some bullshit faux science blog funded by industry.

http://history.aip.org/climate/co2.htm

[Catman]

38 minutes ago, 02sled said:

We better tax the hell out of that. It's raging out of control 

Dr. 02sledidiot hath spoken

[Puzzleboy]

Could care less if the Chinese do nothing.  Far more worrying is their polluting ways or real contribution to GHGs. 

Not some made up crap about CO2 being a GHG. 

Levels today are unprecedented?    Yeah, except for the previous PRECEDENT where they were much higher..... before mankind started producing ANYTHING!

You sound like an Al Gore troll. 

And it's a good thing climate change exists.  Who denies that?  The climate on this planet has been changing for millions of years.  So, what was man's contribution exactly, when this part of the world was glacial, or a tropical forest at other times? 

"Natural" levels.....   Scatman at least provides some humour in this thread!

Edited January 3, 2017 by Puzzleboy

[02sled]

6 hours ago, Catman said:

Dr. 02sledidiot hath spoken

 

If you are too much of a moron to not realize cap and trade will accomplish nothing more than taking a lot more money out of your pocket you are in serious need of help.

The clown trurdope went camping with friends and was worried about the carbon footprint of their campfire 

 

 

 

 

[Sksman]

Catman, i read an article on the weekend about cap and trade.

If California sells 100,000 credits to Ontario, California can claim lowered it carbon footprint by 100,000 tonnes.

ontario by buying can claim it lowered its footprint by 100,000 tonnes.

no one has actually lowered shit but there are claims of 200,000 tonnes lowered.

 

How the fuck does a stupid program with no way to measure invisible gas produced work?   That is other then a bunch of bullshit politicians patting each other on the back making statements of reductions.

 

If Trudeau really wanted areduction he could stop jetsetting around the world, stay in his office and there would be a huge reduction by  2 or 3 flights lees a day by a plane.

 

 

[Catman]

8 hours ago, Puzzleboy said:

Could care less if the Chinese do nothing.  Far more worrying is their polluting ways or real contribution to GHGs. 

Not some made up crap about CO2 being a GHG. 

Levels today are unprecedented?    Yeah, except for the previous PRECEDENT where they were much higher..... before mankind started pr

[2strokemerc]

[Momorider]

22 hours ago, Catman said:

Huh?  

The guy didn't cofound green peace & He's a fucking wackjob.

His whole premise is that we need more c02 so trees have more "air to breathe"  he's bought and paid for by pulp and paper, chemicals and nuclear industries. 

Which would also contradict the belief that man isn't having an impact on the climate and global warming doesn't exist.  It's an excuse polluters use to mask the issue and confuse te public (case in point everyone who's posted in this thread)

Maybe you should read up on your sources of information?  Did what he say not strike you as at least somewhat unbelievable? Lmao

and more  from another fucking absolute brainless hack 

[Poptech]

On 1/2/2017 at 9:18 PM, Catman said:

Total fucking bunk actually and much of what the "experts" quoted there have been proven to be totally false, taken out of context or on the take. 

That website is a proven & big oil funded climate change deniers site.

None of those scientists quotes have been proven false or taken out of context. Feel free to contact any of them and get back to us.

But do not make libelous comments about our website.

Popular Technology.net is an impartial, not-for-profit website that covers popular trends and technology. This site receives no funding of any kind, has no affiliations and is completely independent.

http://www.populartechnology.net/p/about.html

[Blackstar]

[StevieWonder]

PopTech .......  What's that like SodaStream .... 

[Catman]

5 hours ago, Poptech said:

None of those scientists quotes have been proven false or taken out of context. Feel free to contact any of them and get back to us.

But do not make libelous comments about our website.

Popular Technology.net is an impartial, not-for-profit website that covers popular trends and technology. This site receives no funding of any kind, has no affiliations and is completely independent.

http://www.populartechnology.net/p/about.html

Lmao

Then you're just stupid.

https://www.desmogblog.com/fossil-fools-fund-latest-petition

https://www.carbonbrief.org/using-our-paper-to-support-skepticism-of-anthropogenic-global-warming-is-misleading-part-ii-of-our-analysis-of-the-900-climate-skeptic-papers

https://www.thestar.com/business/2016/07/15/mark-carney-focuses-on-climate-change-not-brexit-on-visit-to-canada.html

 

[Poncho]

8 minutes ago, Catman said:

Lmao

Then you're just stupid.

https://www.desmogblog.com/fossil-fools-fund-latest-petition

https://www.carbonbrief.org/using-our-paper-to-support-skepticism-of-anthropogenic-global-warming-is-misleading-part-ii-of-our-analysis-of-the-900-climate-skeptic-papers

https://www.thestar.com/business/2016/07/15/mark-carney-focuses-on-climate-change-not-brexit-on-visit-to-canada.html

 

Poor Scat....did you ride your ultra polluting XF today?  If you did, the extra 10 cents per liter you paid for your premium fuel went directly into the cause you support.....poor Scat

[ArcticCrusher]

5 hours ago, Poptech said:

None of those scientists quotes have been proven false or taken out of context. Feel free to contact any of them and get back to us.

But do not make libelous comments about our website.

Popular Technology.net is an impartial, not-for-profit website that covers popular trends and technology. This site receives no funding of any kind, has no affiliations and is completely independent.

http://www.populartechnology.net/p/about.html

Don't bother Pt,  scaterbrainman swallowed the blue pill,  he has been spoon fed and sipping the Kool-Aid into thinking man can somehow stop the natural climate from changing.    something it has been doing for billions of years.   Extra taxes going into government coffers are the answer. 

[Boered]

On ‎2017‎-‎01‎-‎02 at 8:19 PM, 02sled said:

Fear not the carbon tax that will increase the price of literally everything we buy, use or consume will be offset by the 8% provincial portion of the HST you'll save on your hydro bill. Just think how much easier things would be if rather than your employer pay you they just gave the money directly to government and the government gave you back what's left over after they piss away what they want 

Between wynnebag and truedope I truly think that in fact is the end game.

[Momorider]

7 hours ago, Poptech said:

None of those scientists quotes have been proven false or taken out of context. Feel free to contact any of them and get back to us.

But do not make libelous comments about our website.

Popular Technology.net is an impartial, not-for-profit website that covers popular trends and technology. This site receives no funding of any kind, has no affiliations and is completely independent.

http://www.populartechnology.net/p/about.html

Fucking 2017  of the year in the first week 

[Sksman]

Interesting read in Toronto Sun.  Catman feel free to show up and comment.

 

 

Don’t let climate alarmists muzzle your skepticism

 

• Toronto Sun
• January 8, 2017
• LORNE GUNTER @anthonyfurey lgunter@postmedia.com

 

Two things happened in Alberta politics this week that demonstrate just how zealous “green” politicians everywhere are about the theory that human activities are causing dangerous climate change.

Under pressure from voters over the $3-billion-a-year carbon tax that it brought in on Jan. 1, Alberta’s NDP government lashed back.

First, on Tuesday the NDP caucus officially demanded that Wildrose Leader Brian Jean remove MLA Don MacIntyre from his post as opposition critic for renewable energy and electricity.

Why? Had MacIntyre been pilfering funds from taxpayers? Had he been harassing interns? Making racist statements?

No. MacIntyre’s sin was expressing doubts about the manmade climate change theory. In short, the NDP wanted MacIntyre removed for exercising his right to free expression.

The NDP didn’t want to counter MacIntyre’s opinions with their own. They wanted MacIntyre’s views branded as lies. And they wanted him shut up.

Attempts to censor climate change skeptics is an increasing tactic of the climate alarmists, with some American alarmists launching a racketeering lawsuit against skeptics and Canadian eco-activist David Suzuki calling on governments to jail skeptics.

Alberta’s NDP also sought to justify their imposition of a carbon tax on everything that moves in Alberta (and every home that is heated and every light that is switched on) by claiming that at least one American state — Washington — is doing the same thing. On the Tuesday edition of CBC TV’s Power and Politics, Alberta Environment Minister Shannon Phillips insisted Washington would soon have a tax similar to Alberta’s.

Except the state of Washington isn’t imposing a carbon tax. Indeed, in November Washington voters rejected a statewide plebiscite (59% to 41%) to enact a carbon tax. Later Phillips claimed that what she meant was that since the failure of the plebiscite, Washington Governor Jay Inslee has asked state legislators to consider imposing one despite voters clear rejection of such a tax.

Alberta’s New Democrats, like greenies everywhere, want to muzzle any opinion on climate change that differs from their own extreme views, while making up facts that make their opinions look more objective.

So in the interest of readers who may wonder whether the science of global warming/climate change truly is “settled,” I would like to offer some online resources that will show a significant (and perhaps growing) number of scientists have doubts about humans’ impact on climate.

This is important because if humans are not contributing significantly to climate change, then policies such as Ontario’s cap-and-trade scheme, Alberta’s carbon tax and Ottawa’s carbon price will not only be economically crippling, they will be environmentally meaningless at the same time.

Start with these three online articles that all offer excellent summaries of exactly what is and isn’t scientifically known about climate science. You’ll be surprised how much of what is reported as “fact” is still only theory that exists in computer models:

Links

http://www.dailywire.com/ news/2071/most-comprehensiveassault-global-warming-ever-mikevan-biezen

http://www.drroyspencer.com/ my-global-warming-skepticism-fordummies/

http://www.breitbart.com/biggovernment/2017/01/03/christopher-essex-milo-delingpole-gallantscientists-remembered-and-climatepolitics-in-2016/

Then, if you want to dig deeper, visit WattsUpWithThat.com, the world’s mostviewed climate science site.

There are also Friends of Science Calgary, the Global Warming Policy Foundation, the CO2 Coalition, Climate Depot, Climate Audit and Still Waiting for Greenhouse. And each of those sites will take you to dozens more.

You might also Google “Russian Academy of Science” and “ice age.” Russia’s most prestigious scientific institute believes we are in for prolonged global cooling (not warming) because our sun is about to enter a phase of less activity that could last 30 years.

The two things these articles and sites will show is that there are plenty of credible scientists who disagree with the warming consensus. And at least some alarmists are doing all they can to keep them quiet.

[Catman]

The firsr paragraph says it all.  Author suguests it's a "theory" - it's not.  It's proven that we are causing climate change.  The only theories that exist are the prediction as to what will happen next.

I've shared numerous periodical and respected sources yet people either disregard them because they look out their window and it's cold out side or read something like this which doesn't say ANYTHING in regards to the actual science, and is written under the guise of mmgw not existing.   It's purely political.

I will say that this cap and trade carbon tax will be forgotten about in short order.  Gas prices in my area went up initially but are now at the level they were at in December. 

Edited January 8, 2017 by Catman

[Sksman]

8 hours ago, Catman said:

The firsr paragraph says it all.  Author suguests it's a "theory" - it's not.  It's proven that we are causing climate change.  The only theories that exist are the prediction as to what will happen next.

I've shared numerous periodical and respected sources yet people either disregard them because they look out their window and it's cold out side or read something like this which doesn't say ANYTHING in regards to the actual science, and is written under the guise of mmgw not existing.   It's purely political.

I will say that this cap and trade carbon tax will be forgotten about in short order.  Gas prices in my area went up initially but are now at the level they were at in December. 

So there are scientists on both sides of the issue both claiming to be right.  For every arguement for global warming there is arguements against.  Why is your side right?

why dont those for it like Justin Trudeau, Leonardo Di Caprio, Wynne, and you do your part to stop it instead of telling me that its my responsibility to pay more taxes to stop it?

Get rid of your sled, get rid of your sled hauler, buy a Prius or electric car and lead by example!  Stop flying on airplanes on world jaunts.

Then i will consider it serious once the choir singing the song takes it seriously.  Until then those spreading the global warming myths are full of shit.

[Sksman]

11 hours ago, Catman said:

The firsr paragraph says it all.  Author suguests it's a "theory" - it's not.  It's proven that we are causing climate change.  The only theories that exist are the prediction as to what will happen next.

I've shared numerous periodical and respected sources yet people either disregard them because they look out their window and it's cold out side or read something like this which doesn't say ANYTHING in regards to the actual science, and is written under the guise of mmgw not existing.   It's purely political.

I will say that this cap and trade carbon tax will be forgotten about in short order.  Gas prices in my area went up initially but are now at the level they were at in December. 

So there are scientists on both sides of the issue both claiming to be right.  For every arguement for global warming there is arguements against.  Why is your side right?

why dont those for it like Justin Trudeau, Leonardo Di Caprio, Wynne, and you do your part to stop it instead of telling me that its my responsibility to pay more taxes to stop it?

Get rid of your sled, get rid of your sled hauler, buy a Prius or electric car and lead by example!  Stop flying on airplanes on world jaunts.

Then i will consider it serious once the choir singing the song takes it seriously.  Until then those spreading the global warming myths are full of shit.

[Momorider]

Every prediction model has been 100% WRONG, but yah the science is settled, this is the new bullshited these clowns are spewing now they know what's causing warming but can't predict what will happen in the future  you can't make this shit up 

[ArcticCrusher]

34 minutes ago, Momorider said:

Every prediction model has been 100% WRONG, but yah the science is settled, this is the new bullshited these clowns are spewing now they know what's causing warming but can't predict what will happen in the future  you can't make this shit up 

No shit.  Do these retards think the climate will actually stop changing with less carbon?