Dave Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: The 850 does everything better Blow belts and cranks better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, jdels said: Ok, I'll play. 04 F7. Bought new. Proper warm ups every time, APV oil only. 142 compression each side. Just crossed 10,000 miles. Two powervalve cleanings but never been touched. Pistons and cylinder walls look perfect through the y-pipe. It's been said a million times....if only by those that know shit about sleds....ZOOK for the mother fucking win. That is all. End of story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, ACE said: No because that’s around 6 engines and 45 belts Original engine. Original belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Zambroski said: It's been said a million times....if only by those that know shit about sleds....ZOOK for the mother fucking win. That is all. End of story. Suzuki is long gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdels Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, Zambroski said: It's been said a million times....if only by those that know shit about sleds....ZOOK for the mother fucking win. That is all. End of story. Couldn't agree more. I keep a soft look out for a NOS longblock, just have on the shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, awful knawful said: Suzuki is long gone. And that is a sad crime for sure. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Dave said: My 15 is not great on fuel or oil unless you putz....who does that? My 14 and 16 has been great even ridden extremely hard. 9 minutes ago, f7ben said: The 850 does everything better No shit.....it should be considering how much newer it is. My rating is based on when it was around. Another engine I put up there with it is the F7's. I'm not trying to say its better than today's mills just what it was for when it was out. Edited February 15, 2021 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, jdels said: Couldn't agree more. I keep a soft look out for a NOS longblock, just have on the shelf. I'm pretty sure we've ridden together up on the North Shore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, jdels said: Ok, I'll play. 04 F7. Bought new. Proper warm ups every time, APV oil only. 142 compression each side. Just crossed 10,000 miles. Two powervalve cleanings but never been touched. Pistons and cylinder walls look perfect through the y-pipe. 17 years old. 600 miles a year. Tough life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Highmark said: My 14 and 16 has been great even ridden extremely hard. No shit.....it should be considering how much newer it is. My rating is based on when it was around. Another engine I put up there with it is the F7's. What do you consider great? Edited February 15, 2021 by Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdels Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Just now, awful knawful said: 17 years old. 600 miles a year. Tough life. Lost three seasons to injury and two to finances. 5000 in the last three years. Properly flogged every ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdels Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I'm pretty sure we've ridden together up on the North Shore. Maybe in spirit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Highmark said: My 14 and 16 has been great even ridden extremely hard. No shit.....it should be considering how much newer it is. My rating is based on when it was around. Another engine I put up there with it is the F7's. I'm not trying to say its better than today's mills just what it was for when it was out. I’m just not a fan. My buddies sled shop has been filled with 800 etecs this year. Like dozens and dozens. Both 2017 free rides owned by guys I know went down this year. One with 2200 miles on it. The 850 is better on gas and oil and more reliable overall from what I can see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Dave said: What do you consider great? 14+. Comparing to other brands 800's that rode with me it was consistently better. I'm sure a stupid question but you do know about kneeling on the back of XS Doo's to put more fuel in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 15 minutes ago, Dave said: My 15 is not great on fuel or oil unless you putz....who does that? both my 16's were never better on oil than the 12 was. this poo isn't much better, light was on at 260 miles but like the gas gauge not real accurate. was at the fill line at 300. But I will take more oil use for more reliability all day long. nothing was worse than my 05 600 sdi. My gas gauge was flashing at 100 miles but only took 8.5 gallons at 120 so happy with fuel economy. Buddies 20 was within a few tenths of a gallon but the gauge was more accurate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: I’m just not a fan. My buddies sled shop has been filled with 800 etecs this year. Like dozens and dozens. Both 2017 free rides owned by guys I know went down this year. One with 2200 miles on it. The 850 is better on gas and oil and more reliable overall from what I can see Again I'm not claiming the 850 isn't a great motor and it should be better considering the design is 6-7 years newer. I'm just going off my experience with them. I've owned over 25 sleds and these motors have consistently impressed me. Edited February 15, 2021 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: 14+. Comparing to other brands 800's that rode with me it was consistently better. I'm sure a stupid question but you do know about kneeling on the back of XS Doo's to put more fuel in? Yes I do...lol. Are you trail riding or off trail....I only off trail with my 800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 4 minutes ago, Highmark said: Again I'm not claiming the 850 isn't a great motor and it should be better considering the design is 6-7 years newer. I'm just going off my experience with them. I've owned over 25 sleds and these motors have consistently impressed me. I never owned one but have logged many miles with them. They were ahead of the game but reliability was really poor from what I’ve mostly seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, f7ben said: I’m just not a fan. My buddies sled shop has been filled with 800 etecs this year. Like dozens and dozens. Both 2017 free rides owned by guys I know went down this year. One with 2200 miles on it. The 850 is better on gas and oil and more reliable overall from what I can see I really like that 850 in my Back Country. Has some proper snort for sure and seems pretty decent on gas and oil. Up to almost 1500 miles on now. Edited February 15, 2021 by DriftBusta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: I really like that 850 in my Back Country. Has some proper snort for sure and seems pretty decent on gas and oil. Up to almost 1500 miles on now. It’s an awesome motor for sure....they absolutely sip gas when not pushed hard. My buddy took 7.9 gallons Sunday in 105 miles and we were pushing 70-100+ for miles of grade. My 260hp 4s only took 8.1 lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Danger Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, jdels said: Ok, I'll play. 04 F7. Bought new. Proper warm ups every time, APV oil only. 142 compression each side. Just crossed 10,000 miles. Two powervalve cleanings but never been touched. Pistons and cylinder walls look perfect through the y-pipe. I just dug my 03 F7 out of the trailer last week after sitting for a few years. Top off the fluids add some oil to the gas and hit the trails. Runs like it always has....strong. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 30 minutes ago, Dave said: Yes I do...lol. Are you trail riding or off trail....I only off trail with my 800. Done both. Been out west with my Gades and lots of trail riding. Never paid attention out west as we only had etec's and checking mileage is just foolish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted February 15, 2021 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted February 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, f7ben said: I never owned one but have logged many miles with them. They were ahead of the game but reliability was really poor from what I’ve mostly seen. We probably had 10 plus in our riding group over the years. Can't recall one engine issue except on a Dunn ported one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Highmark said: We probably had 10 plus in our riding group over the years. Can't recall one engine issue except on a Dunn ported one. I believe it’s a function of time and plugging injectors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awful knawful Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 4 hours ago, ACE said: No they’re junk. Not Polaris level bad but they’re pretty bad. The only company to make a durable large twin was cat You named yourself after a skidoo engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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