Mainecat Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 The Trump campaign played a song about rich kids dodging the Vietnam War draft -- which the president did 5 times Source: Business Insider The Trump campaign played a song about rich kids dodging the Vietnam War draft — which the president did 5 times — at a Michigan rally President Donald Trump's campaign played a song about rich people dodging the Vietnam War draft — which Trump did five times — as the president disembarked his plane for a rally in Michigan. The 1969 song "Fortunate Son," by Creedence Clearwater Revival, blared as Air Force One arrived to crowds of Trump supporters at MBS International Airport in Freeland, Michigan, on Thursday. The song is sung from the perspective of young men drafted to fight in the Vietnam War who didn't have the powerful connections to avoid going. As the lyrics say: "Some folks are born silver spoon in hand / Lord, don't they help themselves, no ... It ain't me, it ain't me / I ain't no millionaire's son." Read more: https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-michigan-rally-plays-fortunate-son-song-avoiding-vietnam-war-2020-9 Dumb asses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Childhood asthma. That's asthma you had as a kid, but can't prove now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 11, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 11, 2020 Great song but Fogerty is just a bit disingenuous when talking about it. The thoughts behind this song - it was a lot of anger. So it was the Vietnam War going on... Now I was drafted and they're making me fight, and no one has actually defined why. So this was all boiling inside of me and I sat down on the edge of my bed and out came "It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son!" You know, it took about 20 minutes to write the song.[8] Fogerty received his draft notice for military service during the Vietnam War in 1966.[14] The same day he received the notice, he went to a local United States Army Reserve recruiter, who signed him up immediately for training as a supply clerk.[14] Fogerty believes the recruiter dated the paperwork to take effect before the draft letter arrived.[8] During his time in the Army Reserve, Fogerty attended training at Fort Bragg, Fort Knox, and Fort Lee.[14] He completed his active duty for training in July 1967, then served as a part-time reservist until being discharged in 1968.[14] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Fucking song has been getting played at presidential rallies, football games, NASCAR events, and countless other large gatherings.......for over 50 years. Because its a great song. But now some Trump hating turd wants to make hay about it. Jesus Rich, walk away. Get some fresh air today. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen. Do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 minute ago, DriftBusta said: Fucking song has been getting played at presidential rallies, football games, NASCAR events, and countless other large gatherings.......for over 50 years. Because its a great song. But now some Trump hating turd wants to make hay about it. Jesus Rich, walk away. Get some fresh air today. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen. Do something. I picture him with nothing to do, just sitting around stewing about trump all day, and it makes me chuckle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Joe tried to sing along but they cut him off at 18 minutes... he was 1/2 way through the song 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Great song but Fogerty is just a bit disingenuous when talking about it. The thoughts behind this song - it was a lot of anger. So it was the Vietnam War going on... Now I was drafted and they're making me fight, and no one has actually defined why. So this was all boiling inside of me and I sat down on the edge of my bed and out came "It ain't me, it ain't me, I ain't no senator's son!" You know, it took about 20 minutes to write the song.[8] Fogerty received his draft notice for military service during the Vietnam War in 1966.[14] The same day he received the notice, he went to a local United States Army Reserve recruiter, who signed him up immediately for training as a supply clerk.[14] Fogerty believes the recruiter dated the paperwork to take effect before the draft letter arrived.[8] During his time in the Army Reserve, Fogerty attended training at Fort Bragg, Fort Knox, and Fort Lee.[14] He completed his active duty for training in July 1967, then served as a part-time reservist until being discharged in 1968.[14] So even the songs that trump plays are phony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: So even the songs that trump plays are phony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold War Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Any pictures of the massive crowds that attended? Joe Biden sneaks in to Michigan for a closed meeting with UAW.......walking through crowd of none. Must be pretty easy being on the Biden detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Where was Clinton during 'Nam again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 56 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Fucking song has been getting played at presidential rallies, football games, NASCAR events, and countless other large gatherings.......for over 50 years. Because its a great song. But now some Trump hating turd wants to make hay about it. Jesus Rich, walk away. Get some fresh air today. Go volunteer at a soup kitchen. Do something. Ending Song from the movie "Battleship" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Where was Clinton during 'Nam again? WGAF, clinton was president 20 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Just now, Angry ginger said: WGAF, clinton was president 20 years ago. And? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Where was Clinton during 'Nam again? Out killing his political enemies I'm sure........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 11, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: WGAF, clinton was president 20 years ago. No shit...these Cult Toadies really have a hard time staying focused on the here and now!🤣 Edited September 11, 2020 by Jimmy Snacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 And many here swiftboated Kerry for his service. Fuckin idiots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: No shit...these Cult Toadies really have a hard time staying focused on the here and now!🤣 2 US Presidents, same Vietnam War. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XCR1250 Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Mainecat said: And many here swiftboated Kerry for his service. Fuckin idiots Kerry's own comrades did it to him. "The facts are that 250 of Kerry's former shipmates, including 17 of the 24 officers in his division, signed a public letter saying he's not fit to be the commander-in-chief," said retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, who commanded the fleet of swift boats during Kerry's tour of duty. Hoffmann is one of the most outspoken veterans to oppose Kerry's candidacy. During a May 4 press conference announcing the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, he called Kerry a "loose cannon" because of his actions in Vietnam. Edited September 11, 2020 by XCR1250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFB Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, XCR1250 said: Kerry's own comrades did it to him. "The facts are that 250 of Kerry's former shipmates, including 17 of the 24 officers in his division, signed a public letter saying he's not fit to be the commander-in-chief," said retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, who commanded the fleet of swift boats during Kerry's tour of duty. Hoffmann is one of the most outspoken veterans to oppose Kerry's candidacy. During a May 4 press conference announcing the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, he called Kerry a "loose cannon" because of his actions in Vietnam. Maybe they were deep state lackeys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 Of the approximately 3,600 Swift boat sailors who served in Vietnam, the names of some 200 appeared on the group's statement against Kerry; most did not serve at the same time or in the same place as Kerry.[7] Of those who served in Kerry's boat crew, only Stephen Gardner joined SBVT.[8] He was not present on any of the occasions when Kerry earned his medals, including his Purple Hearts. Gardner appeared in two of the group's television advertisements. All other living members of Kerry's crew supported his presidential bid, and some frequently campaigned with him as his self-described "band of brothers". Kerry crew members have disputed some of SBVT's various allegations, calling them "totally false" (Drew Whitlow), "garbage" (Gene Thorson), and "a pack of lies" (Del Sandusky).[9][10][11][12][13]Several members of Swift Boat Veterans for Truth (SBVT) served in the same unit as Kerry, although Gardner was the only one to serve on Kerry's boat.[14] A number of Kerry's SBVT critics were present on accompanying Swift Boats at one of the combat events for which Kerry was decorated with the Bronze Star Medal and a third Purple Heart.[15] Another SBVT member, Dr. Louis Letson, was the physician who claims to have treated Kerry for his first Purple Heart wound.[16] Larry Clayton Lee was the sole SBVT member to participate in the event for which Kerry was awarded the Silver Star.[17] No SBVT member participated in events related to the award of Kerry's second Purple Heart. In addition to questioning the merit of many of Kerry's service awards, SBVT decried his post-Vietnam anti-war activity and disputed the truthfulness of his subsequent testimony about the conduct of the American military as demonstrated in that war. Many political observers saw this as reflecting the "true reason behind the Swift Boat campaign."[18][19] All of the allegations referencing Kerry's Vietnam service and awards were made during Kerry's 2004 presidential campaign while Kerry's post-Vietnam anti-war activity had long been a subject of controversy. Defenders of John Kerry's service record, including nearly all of his former crewmates, have stated that SBVT's allegations are false.[4][5][6][20] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA Contributing Member $poorsledder$ Posted September 11, 2020 USA Contributing Member Share Posted September 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Mainecat said: And many here swiftboated Kerry for his service. Fuckin idiots Mainecat..... the John Kerry/Jane Fonda of Vietnam John Kerry got his 3 purple hearts in record time and got out, he did more fighting with his officers over the awarding of the medals than he did in actual service. I can admire him for being in the service but what he did to get out and how he spoke of it when he did makes me think he can go fuck himself. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry_military_service_controversy Your pretty outspoken about pretty much everything, tell us how you missed out on the war.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 hours ago, XCR1250 said: Where was Clinton during 'Nam again? Having more fun than you were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 7 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: No shit...these Cult Toadies really have a hard time staying focused on the here and now!🤣 Biden's childhood asthma. 5 deferments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Snake said: Biden's childhood asthma. 5 deferments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted September 11, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Haha...poor Cheetolini!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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