spin_dry Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Only mandatory masks. 1k dead with a population of 126,000,000. The smartest of all the countries. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Only mandatory masks. 1k dead with a population of 126,000,000. The smartest of all the countries. Nope, Taiwan is the smartest. 7 dead We have factories there. Nothing shut down there either, just masks and screening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Doorider said: Nope, Taiwan is the smartest. 7 dead We have factories there. Nothing shut down there either, just masks and screening. I stand corrected. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Its more common sense really. Masks won't do much unless physical distancing protocols are in place. We flattened the curve and got Covid under control before masks came into large use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Asian cultural norms and education levels make this possible. I'd love to see what an uncorrupted first-world Asian population would be able to accomplish with the resources of a USA. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 minute ago, ArcticCrusher said: Its more common sense really. Masks won't do much unless physical distancing protocols are in place. We flattened the curve and got Covid under control before masks came into large use. Ever ridden the Yamanote line in Tokyo? Ain't nobody social distancing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Matt said: Ever ridden the Yamanote line in Tokyo? Ain't nobody social distancing there. Mask were required on our transit systems early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Taiwan also locked down immediately when they caught wind of this virus. Still today, anyone that comes into the country must quarantine for 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doorider Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 6 minutes ago, Matt said: Ever ridden the Yamanote line in Tokyo? Ain't nobody social distancing there. Yep, I spent time in Tokyo, no way to social distance there. It's crazy how big and populated that city is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 16 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Its more common sense really. Masks won't do much unless physical distancing protocols are in place. We flattened the curve and got Covid under control before masks came into large use. So the clear results of Mandatory Masks are not the results of Mandatory Masks... Got it For fuck sake reduce what is coming out of you by covering your mouth and nose. Wanna protect yourself, wear N95 or better, maybe even toss in a shield if it's nasty environment. This ain't Rocket Science, think I seen some doctors with masks, not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 1 hour ago, Tinker said: So the clear results of Mandatory Masks are not the results of Mandatory Masks... Got it For fuck sake reduce what is coming out of you by covering your mouth and nose. Wanna protect yourself, wear N95 or better, maybe even toss in a shield if it's nasty environment. This ain't Rocket Science, think I seen some doctors with masks, not sure. I don't think the non-medical masks most are wearing will stop the aerosol spread in crowds, but will stop the spit. Do we really know how its spreading more from droplets or aerosol? How many ventilation systems have been modified to reduce recirculation or are we just blowing on people? Not a nasty environment, just an oversite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 2 hours ago, ArcticCrusher said: Mask were required on our transit systems early on. not here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, frenchy said: not here. I just checked and they were made mandatory on the TTC starting July 02. I don't take the TTC and never will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 Mandatory or not there's no fn way I'd have used transit without a mask, won't even get in a public elevator. Toronto is prepping for stage 3 of re-opening, exposure and contact with people is already up 3-4-500% so masks and sanitized contact are key. Been working so far, surprising how few people you see without 1 on where necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tinker said: Mandatory or not there's no fn way I'd have used transit without a mask, won't even get in a public elevator. Toronto is prepping for stage 3 of re-opening, exposure and contact with people is already up 3-4-500% so masks and sanitized contact are key. Been working so far, surprising how few people you see without 1 on where necessary. Don't you fix those? I wouldn't have used transit either without a mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted July 31, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) Well at least a couple factors are they are 2 of the healthiest countries in the world and in Asian culture hand shaking isn't common. Bowing is. So early on while we were spreading it by hand they weren't. Maybe we shouldn't shake hands anymore. Fauci very well was right there. https://www.npr.org/2020/05/26/862654095/what-lies-behind-japans-successful-management-of-the-pandemic KUHN: "No citizens think that things went well because of what the government did," he says, adding, "we just got really lucky." Edited July 31, 2020 by Highmark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinker Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Don't you fix those? I wouldn't have used transit either without a mask. Yep.I only ride in the ones we've had off for Modernizing and the public hasn't been in or I'll get on top. They're toilet tubes at the best of times Edited July 31, 2020 by Tinker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, Tinker said: Mandatory or not there's no fn way I'd have used transit without a mask, won't even get in a public elevator. Toronto is prepping for stage 3 of re-opening, exposure and contact with people is already up 3-4-500% so masks and sanitized contact are key. Been working so far, surprising how few people you see without 1 on where necessary. agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tinker said: Yep.I only ride in the ones we've had off for Modernizing and the public hasn't been in or I'll get on top. They're toilet tubes at the best of times Yup, stay safe man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted July 31, 2020 Author Share Posted July 31, 2020 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Well at least a couple factors are they are 2 of the healthiest countries in the world and in Asian culture hand shaking isn't common. Bowing is. So early on while we were spreading it by hand they weren't. Maybe we shouldn't shake hands anymore. https://www.npr.org/2020/05/26/862654095/what-lies-behind-japans-successful-management-of-the-pandemic KUHN: "No citizens think that things went well because of what the government did," he says, adding, "we just got really lucky." I don’t shake hands. It’s a bizarre behavior. Derived from showing the other person that there’s no weapon in your hand. Reminds me of dogs sniffing each other’s asses. Masks work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted July 31, 2020 Gold Member Share Posted July 31, 2020 Japan cases are starting to ramp up... the Kung flu may have gotten out of control for them... time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 7 hours ago, Highmark said: Well at least a couple factors are they are 2 of the healthiest countries in the world and in Asian culture hand shaking isn't common. Bowing is. So early on while we were spreading it by hand they weren't. Maybe we shouldn't shake hands anymore. Fauci very well was right there. https://www.npr.org/2020/05/26/862654095/what-lies-behind-japans-successful-management-of-the-pandemic KUHN: "No citizens think that things went well because of what the government did," he says, adding, "we just got really lucky." so is Sweden so much for your frantic search for an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/specious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 1, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, frenchy said: so is Sweden so much for your frantic search for an excuse. Weather likely played some role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted August 1, 2020 Author Share Posted August 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, Highmark said: Weather likely played some role. I’m always entertained when you scramble to explain away the obvious with the most ridiculous explanations. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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