Zambroski Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Anler said: yep. Chicago would have been at the family's door with a cash settlement the next day. Even with all of the bad press they would have had Floyd's family out there shilling for them. They let that flame up and then tried to throw a bullshit coroners report out there. Bad move. You have to play political defense from the start. Minnesota has leadership issues with liberals who think nothing bad happens if they can ignore it and shift the narrative. It’s largely statewide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, Phoenix said: Well you seem like the only reasonable person left here. 1st of all there are two separate issues here. 1. What are the facts of the case. The perps criminal record is obviously part of that. 2. The rioters/politicians/fake media/fake sjw's etc. using #1 as an excuse. We probably agree on #2 right? My take. I don't think anyone planned on anyone getting killed. The victim had drugs in him and gave him breathing issues and the cops showed they did not care. While he was down the cop decided to let him suffer to teach him a lesson when he died. So a manslaughter case is warranted but I doubt it would have carried much of a sentence, esp after the body camera likely shows him resisting arrest. Who here who supports the protests would be present for one? Certainly not me, but the truth needs to come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3600 Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 I don't care about Floyd's prior record, it had zero to do with the arrest, zero to do with the prolonged knee restraint, zero to do with the failure to recognize verbal and physical queues that a medical situation was at hand, zero to do with the disregard of basic human standards by the officer. Bob Kroll has been entrenched so long that he believes his own propaganda, any recognition of shortcomings would mean he'd have to admit failure on his part and he can't do that. His mentality is what has pushed the aggressiveness of modern policing, instilled the fear in officers that they have to kill/subdue first and fast if they expect to make it home alive tonight. He is high on his authority. It makes me wonder how a city that has had Dem Mayors for years, hand picked liberal police chiefs, city councils of all progressive nature can still have a police union head of this nature. How have they not figured out a way to replace him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, Phoenix said: Well you seem like the only reasonable person left here. 1st of all there are two separate issues here. 1. What are the facts of the case. The perps criminal record is obviously part of that. 2. The rioters/politicians/fake media/fake sjw's etc. using #1 as an excuse. We probably agree on #2 right? They are the real pieces of shit in this whole ordeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Anler said: I think we know why Pahoenix doesnt like the blacks... Lol. I missed it the first time. I thought it was strange that you’d be sending a message of the heart. Edited June 3, 2020 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 18 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: They are the real pieces of shit in this whole ordeal. Core of the issue is the police. Certain members of the public had enough. If they need to do it again they will. Humans are like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 A bit more video here. https://nyti.ms/3gIhmhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Like as retarded as “systemic racism”? I've never used that term. Over-used and over-played. Doesn't mean racism doesn't exist though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: A bit more video here. https://nyti.ms/3gIhmhh That’s 1st degree murder. No question. That’s simply so fucked up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frenchy Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, spin_dry said: That’s 1st degree murder. No question. That’s simply so fucked up. they just added 2nd degree to the list of charges. Apparently aiding and abetting charges to the donut eaters standing around doing nothing while it happened are imminent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Rigid1 Posted June 3, 2020 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, irv said: Is there more video prior to the knee on the neck? Was it a normal arrest or was there resisting, assault, etc, prior to him being cuffed? For the SJW's, I am not condoning the cops behavior, just curious is all. He was cuffed up against a wall and then escorted by the police about 25ft to the PD explorer where his death took place. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, F3600 said: I don't care about Floyd's prior record, it had zero to do with the arrest, zero to do with the prolonged knee restraint, zero to do with the failure to recognize verbal and physical queues that a medical situation was at hand, zero to do with the disregard of basic human standards by the officer. Bob Kroll has been entrenched so long that he believes his own propaganda, any recognition of shortcomings would mean he'd have to admit failure on his part and he can't do that. His mentality is what has pushed the aggressiveness of modern policing, instilled the fear in officers that they have to kill/subdue first and fast if they expect to make it home alive tonight. He is high on his authority. It makes me wonder how a city that has had Dem Mayors for years, hand picked liberal police chiefs, city councils of all progressive nature can still have a police union head of this nature. How have they not figured out a way to replace him. Kroll will be stepping down soon. Either because of his own feeling of being victimized or pressure from elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 (edited) 51 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: They are the real pieces of shit in this whole ordeal. Exactly. That's mostly what is in the info I posted. As far as #1 I was just putting out info because the media lies so bad, I like to post facts... One thing I can say with 100% certainty is that it is not as cut and dried as the fake media claims. Here is what I have learned so far: 1. The perp was a lifelong violent criminal who was in prison more than once. One of his crimes was breaking into a pregnant woman's home, pointing a gun at her stomach and threatening to shoot her. 2. The cops were called on him because he was trying to pass counterfeit money. 3. The guy is 6'6" tall and he resisted arrest 4. The method of restraint is a procedure recommended in the police manual. 5.Per ME's report: he was on drugs and had two different types of heart disease. 6.The cops first tried to put him in the back of a cop car but he refused. 7.The ME's report lists the cause of death as heart failure. The cops did not "murder" him. It's simply a fact. Negligence, manslaughter? Maybe. And I believe that one of the charges against him is manslaughter. The prosecution set it up so that a jury could choose that once they see it wasn't murder? 8.Of the 4 cops, there was one of each-Asian, Black (Mulato?), Hispanic, White. 9. All 4 cops were kneeling on the perp. Only 1 got arrested. 10. At least one of the cops new the perp previously-knew his history? 11. Inner city police deal with seriously violent dangerous criminals. I've researched it, I've talked to a city cop about it myself. It's no joke, the crime rate in many of these areas is higher than many 3rd world countries. Links to info. ME's Report: https://www.informationliberation.com/?id=61505 Video containing a lot of info: Update to video: https://anthonyblogan.com/update-new-george-floyd-autopsy-released/ Edited June 3, 2020 by Phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Wouldn't matter if he beat the fuck out of the 4 of them, once he was cuffed and on the ground that should have been the end of it, period. If you or I were in car with 3 other people and 1 guy goes in and kills someone all 4 are considered guilty. All 4 should have been arrested that night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, spin_dry said: That’s 1st degree murder. No question. That’s simply so fucked up. Pre existing condition and he had prior arrests, that is the real reasons he died. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, 1jkw said: Wouldn't matter if he beat the fuck out of the 4 of them, once he was cuffed and on the ground that should have been the end of it, period. If you or I were in car with 3 other people and 1 guy goes in and kills someone all 4 are considered guilty. All 4 should have been arrested that night. Imagine if there wasn’t a video? How many other crimes have those two committed? Easy question is none. The cop’s wife is divorcing his ass. She’ll get his pension. That’s a done deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted June 3, 2020 Author Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: My take. I don't think anyone planned on anyone getting killed. The victim had drugs in him and gave him breathing issues and the cops showed they did not care. While he was down the cop decided to let him suffer to teach him a lesson when he died. So a manslaughter case is warranted but I doubt it would have carried much of a sentence, esp after the body camera likely shows him resisting arrest. Who here who supports the protests would be present for one? Certainly not me, but the truth needs to come out. There were 4 cops holding him down not one. In order for the narrative to be true they would have had to all agree to murder someone with all of them wearing body cams. Then they would have had to bribe all of the top dogs in the local legal system. They would have to have been willing to go along with it as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Pre existing condition and he had prior arrests, that is the real reasons he died. Drug use too. He was a baaaaad man. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, spin_dry said: Drug use too. He was a baaaaad man. What most people (Stupid liberals)dont want to realize is that he would have died at the exact same time even if the cops never showed up because of his pre existing conditions, drug use and prior arrests. He is lucky they showed up and called an ambulance but because of his prior arrests it wasnt enough and he died anyway.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 1 hour ago, ArcticCrusher said: Tell me what he should say to his team right now who might just say fuck it. The truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, Anler said: What most people (Stupid liberals)dont want to realize is that he would have died at the exact same time even if the cops never showed up because of his pre existing conditions, drug use and prior arrests. He is lucky they showed up and called an ambulance but because of his prior arrests it wasnt enough and he died anyway.. He was tall too. He had a long way to fall before hitting the ground. Some will try and blame this on the police. Obviously they had nothing to do with his genetics. Liberals are so stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 6 minutes ago, spin_dry said: Imagine if there wasn’t a video? How many other crimes have those two committed? Easy question is none. The cop’s wife is divorcing his ass. She’ll get his pension. That’s a done deal. If there was no video we would never have heard of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 Just now, spin_dry said: He was tall too. He had a long way to fall before hitting the ground. Some will try and blame this on the police. Obviously they had nothing to do with his genetics. Liberals are so stupid. Now you get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 34 minutes ago, spin_dry said: That’s 1st degree murder. No question. That’s simply so fucked up. Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted June 3, 2020 Share Posted June 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, spin_dry said: The truth. Who is telling that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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