60,000 deaths in 35 days.

[BOHICA]

3 minutes ago, FrankieJames7 said:

you are a weak and worthless american faggot. are you going to die from corona virus and stop being a burden on us?

I would much rather die of covid compared to how you go out which is choking on a cock working/earning your way towards some meth.

Edited April 30, 2020 by BOHICA

[FrankieJames7]

1 minute ago, BOHICA said:

I would much rather die of covid compared to how you go out which is choking on a cock working/earning your way towards some meth.

are you going to though? to reduce your burden on humanity and mother earth? what a good faggot u are

[BOHICA]

1 minute ago, FrankieJames7 said:

are you going to though? to reduce your burden on humanity and mother earth? what a good faggot u are

Nope.  Got many years of making a couple hundred grand a year keeping lights on.

 

when you Going to die?

[FrankieJames7]

1 minute ago, BOHICA said:

Nope.  Got many years of making a couple hundred grand a year keeping lights on.

 

when you Going to die?

yes you are. you are a worthless burden on society. when you get it, you will drain the system like a socialist traitor and die

[BOHICA]

3 minutes ago, FrankieJames7 said:

yes you are. you are a worthless burden on society. when you get it, you will drain the system like a socialist traitor and die

You will prolly go first...  either from choking on cock or just being too fucking stupid to survive.  Maybe you should have paid attention in school so you know what carbon in an engine is you stupid little idiot.

[FrankieJames7]

4 minutes ago, BOHICA said:

You will prolly go first...  either from choking on cock or just being too fucking stupid to survive.  Maybe you should have paid attention in school so you know what carbon in an engine is you stupid little idiot.

i will not die from corona virus. you, weak, retarded, worthless, will drain the system for a couple weeks then get pit in the ground where a degenerate like you belongs

[Guest]

Sure glad Bohica ain't my kid. That fukker would kill me, bury me behind the chicken coop, and take my money. 

[FrankieJames7]

Just now, Polaris 550 said:

Sure glad Bohica ain't my kid. That fukker would kill me, bury me behind the chicken coop, and take my money. 

tbh that's a good spot for you so if he did that then he would actually make himself useful for once

[Guest]

1 minute ago, FrankieJames7 said:

tbh that's a good spot for you so if he did that then he would actually make himself useful for once

STFU, and get a job. 

[FrankieJames7]

2 hours ago, Polaris 550 said:

STFU, and get a job. 

shut the fuck up and sftu

[The One]

3 hours ago, Polaris 550 said:

STFU, and get a job. 

Why don't you STFU !!! 

[Ez ryder]

8 hours ago, BOHICA said:

Average SS check in January of 2020 was around $1500...  out of say the 60,000 let’s be very generous and say that this cold has taken out 50,000 SS recipients or soon to be reciepents this 35 days has saved us 75 million a month in SS payments. It’s prolly very likely more like 55k+ of those deaths were burdensome people.  If this keeps up for a few more months and the second wave is as bad as some claims it going to be we could easily get into 100’s of millions of dollars savings to SS every single month.

good stuff!!!

 no most of them are in nusing homes already . they sheltered there homes and money long ago . they are now on Angel care at the min cost of around 9k a mo average about 11k a mo .

I think the average age of the dead from covid in MN is 85 . yeah 85 but deff worth fucking all the small biz owners another 18 days today .

[Mainecat]

31 minutes ago, Ez ryder said:

 no most of them are in nusing homes already . they sheltered there homes and money long ago . they are now on Angel care at the min cost of around 9k a mo average about 11k a mo .

I think the average age of the dead from covid in MN is 85 . yeah 85 but deff worth fucking all the small biz owners another 18 days today .

Many are Veterans.

[Ez ryder]

7 minutes ago, Mainecat said:

Many are Veterans.

still not changing the fact most are in nursing homes having sheltered there money long ago now on the states,dime for there stay in the home at 10 k a mo.

we need to start going back 12 yrs in to financial records of at min stop the crazy keep them alive at all cost bullahit . washingtion is tge only state with there head out of there ass with right to die healthcare detectives

[Kev144]

11 hours ago, BOHICA said:

Nope.  Got many years of making a couple hundred grand a year keeping lights on.

 

when you Going to die?

Grown man here ladies and gentleman.    A grown man.......

[FrankieJames7]

1 hour ago, Kev144 said:

Grown man here ladies and gentleman.    A grown man.......

bullshit. isnt he like 5'4"? little bitch if yask me. i still know a few of his old coworkers, i should ask them how much dong he had to choke down in order to keep getting fed

[XCR1250]

19 hours ago, spin_dry said:

The herd is almost here.  

(CNN)The new coronavirus is likely to keep spreading for at least another 18 months to two years—until 60% to 70% of the population has been infected, a team of longstanding pandemic experts predicted in a report released Thursday.

They recommended that the US prepare for a worst-case scenario that includes a second big wave of coronavirus infections in the fall and winter. Even in a best-case scenario, people will continue to die from the virus, they predicted.

"This thing's not going to stop until it infects 60 to 70 percent of people," Mike Osterholm, who directs the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota, told CNN.

"The idea that this is going to be done soon defies microbiology."

Osterholm has been writing about the risk of pandemics for 20 years and has advised several presidents. He wrote the report along with Harvard School of Public Health epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch, who is also a top expert on pandemics; Dr. Kristine Moore, a former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention epidemiologist who is now medical director for CIDRAP; and historian John Barry, who wrote the 2004 book "The Great Influenza" about the 1918 flu pandemic.

Waiting for herd immunity

Because Covid-19 is new, no one has any immunity, they said. "The length of the pandemic will likely be 18 to 24 months, as herd immunity gradually develops in the human population," they wrote.

Their predictions are different from models presented by groups such as the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington or the models produced by Imperial College London, whose report predicting millions of deaths in the US and UK helped galvanize responses by both governments.

The CIDRAP-led team used those reports, historical data on past pandemics, and published reports about the medical details of Covid-19 to put together their forecast.

 

Deaths spiked as Covid-19 spread in March and April, new analysis finds

"I have said for a long time that when you are trying to understand how infectious disease is going to unfold, you should rely on history as well as models," Lipsitch told CNN. For instance, pandemic infections don't tend to die down in the summer, like seasonal flu does., he said.

Covid-19 is most comparable to a pandemic strain of influenza, they said.

"Because of a longer incubation period, more asymptomatic spread, and a higher R0, COVID-19 appears to spread more easily than flu," they wrote in the report. R0 is the average number of other people infected by each patient.

"A higher R0 means more people will need to get infected and become immune before the pandemic can end," they add. "Based on the most recent flu pandemics, this outbreak will likely last 18 to 24 months."

Preparing for the worst

They said government officials should stop telling people the pandemic could be ending and instead prepare citizens for a long haul.

Three scenarios are possible, they said:

Scenario 1: The first wave of Covid-19 in spring 2020 is followed by a series of repetitive smaller waves that occur through the summer and then consistently over a one- to two-year period, gradually diminishing sometime in 2021

Scenario 2: The first wave of Covid-19 is followed by a larger wave in the fall or winter and one or more smaller waves in 2021. "This pattern will require the reinstitution of mitigation measures in the fall in an attempt to drive down spread of infection and prevent healthcare systems from being overwhelmed," they wrote. "This pattern is similar to what was seen with the 1918-19 pandemic."

 

Model predicts Covid-19 pandemic will 'peter out' by May, but experts are skeptical

Scenario 3: A "slow burn" of ongoing transmission. "This third scenario likely would not require the reinstitution of mitigation measures, although cases and deaths will continue to occur."

States and territories should plan for scenario 2, the worst-case scenario, they recommended.

"Government officials should develop concrete plans, including triggers for reinstituting mitigation measures, for dealing with disease peaks when they occur," they advised.

Lipsitch and Osterholm both said they are surprised by the decisions many states are making to lift restrictions aimed at controlling the spread of the virus.

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"I think it's an experiment. It's an experiment that likely will cost lives, especially in places that do it without careful controls to try to figure out when to try to slow things down again," Lipsitch said.

Plus, he said, some states are choosing to lift restrictions when they have more new infections than they had when they decided to impose the restrictions.

"It is hard to even understand the rationale," Lipsitch said.

A vaccine could help, the report said, but not quickly. "The course of the pandemic also could be influenced by a vaccine; however, a vaccine will likely not be available until at least sometime in 2021," they wrote.

"And we don't know what kinds of challenges could arise during vaccine development that could delay the timeline."

[spin_dry]

39 minutes ago, XCR1250 said:

(CNN)The new coronavirus is likely to keep spreading for at least another 18 months to two years—until 60% to 70% of the population has been infected, a team of longstanding pandemic experts predicted in a report released Thursday.

They recommended that the US prepare for a worst-case scenario that includes a second big wave of coronavirus infections in the fall and winter. Even in a best-case scenario, people will continue to die from the virus, they predicted.

"This thing's not going to stop until it infects 60 to 70 percent of people," Mike Osterholm, who directs the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy (CIDRAP) at the University of Minnesota, told CNN.

"The idea that this is going to be done soon defies microbiology."

Osterholm has been writing about the risk of pandemics for 20 years and has advised several presidents. He wrote the report along with Harvard School of Public Health epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch, who is also a top expert on pandemics; Dr. Kristine Moore, a former Centers for Disease Control and Prevention epidemiologist who is now medical director for CIDRAP; and historian John Barry, who wrote the 2004 book "The Great Influenza" about the 1918 flu pandemic.

Waiting for herd immunity

Because Covid-19 is new, no one has any immunity, they said. "The length of the pandemic will likely be 18 to 24 months, as herd immunity gradually develops in the human population," they wrote.

Their predictions are different from models presented by groups such as the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the University of Washington or the models produced by Imperial College London, whose report predicting millions of deaths in the US and UK helped galvanize responses by both governments.

The CIDRAP-led team used those reports, historical data on past pandemics, and published reports about the medical details of Covid-19 to put together their forecast.

 

Deaths spiked as Covid-19 spread in March and April, new analysis finds

"I have said for a long time that when you are trying to understand how infectious disease is going to unfold, you should rely on history as well as models," Lipsitch told CNN. For instance, pandemic infections don't tend to die down in the summer, like seasonal flu does., he said.

Covid-19 is most comparable to a pandemic strain of influenza, they said.

"Because of a longer incubation period, more asymptomatic spread, and a higher R0, COVID-19 appears to spread more easily than flu," they wrote in the report. R0 is the average number of other people infected by each patient.

"A higher R0 means more people will need to get infected and become immune before the pandemic can end," they add. "Based on the most recent flu pandemics, this outbreak will likely last 18 to 24 months."

Preparing for the worst

They said government officials should stop telling people the pandemic could be ending and instead prepare citizens for a long haul.

Three scenarios are possible, they said:

Scenario 1: The first wave of Covid-19 in spring 2020 is followed by a series of repetitive smaller waves that occur through the summer and then consistently over a one- to two-year period, gradually diminishing sometime in 2021

Scenario 2: The first wave of Covid-19 is followed by a larger wave in the fall or winter and one or more smaller waves in 2021. "This pattern will require the reinstitution of mitigation measures in the fall in an attempt to drive down spread of infection and prevent healthcare systems from being overwhelmed," they wrote. "This pattern is similar to what was seen with the 1918-19 pandemic."

 

Model predicts Covid-19 pandemic will 'peter out' by May, but experts are skeptical

Scenario 3: A "slow burn" of ongoing transmission. "This third scenario likely would not require the reinstitution of mitigation measures, although cases and deaths will continue to occur."

States and territories should plan for scenario 2, the worst-case scenario, they recommended.

"Government officials should develop concrete plans, including triggers for reinstituting mitigation measures, for dealing with disease peaks when they occur," they advised.

Lipsitch and Osterholm both said they are surprised by the decisions many states are making to lift restrictions aimed at controlling the spread of the virus.

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"I think it's an experiment. It's an experiment that likely will cost lives, especially in places that do it without careful controls to try to figure out when to try to slow things down again," Lipsitch said.

Plus, he said, some states are choosing to lift restrictions when they have more new infections than they had when they decided to impose the restrictions.

"It is hard to even understand the rationale," Lipsitch said.

A vaccine could help, the report said, but not quickly. "The course of the pandemic also could be influenced by a vaccine; however, a vaccine will likely not be available until at least sometime in 2021," they wrote.

"And we don't know what kinds of challenges could arise during vaccine development that could delay the timeline."

Michael Osterholm has been the man with all of this. Brilliant guy. 

[Big Crappie]

6 minutes ago, spin_dry said:

Michael Osterholm has been the man with all of this. Brilliant guy. 

Yes he has.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/21/opinions/bergen-osterholm-interview-two-opinion/index.html

Edited May 1, 2020 by Big Crappie

[Guest]

Wow, that sucks!!!!!

[racer254]

[Jimmy Snacks]

19 minutes ago, racer254 said:

That meme is almost as stupid as you. 

[spin_dry]

3 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said:

That meme is almost as stupid as you. 

It’s mind numbing 

[Ez ryder]

22 hours ago, Mainecat said:

He would have no problem with gunmen going to rest homes and shooting residents.

i

this is rich coming fr9m a guy who wants govenment to run his heath care . what do you think the fed will do with end of life care when they are paying the bills ? 

[Fireball 440]

Shit ya know if this China Flu wipes out the entire population over age 75, we could all start collecting S.S. earlier and larger checks.  I'm all for it. Let's unleash Covid 2.0.