Woodtick Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, Reevester said: Hopefully they do. So what that means if they try and get me drunk they'll pass out first? Damn,you fucking turned that one around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reevester Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, Woodtick said: Damn,you fucking turned that one around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Yeah that ain't cool at all. 1 hour ago, steve from amherst said: scumbags. Yea, they are truly pieces of shit. Someone copied grip n rips bracing and is selling knock offs on eBay. And someone copied a bag off of Sled Solutions (that he designed on his own and had made by a company in the US) and is outsourcing it to a Chinese company. Nothing can be done about it by either of them because they didn't put a patent on their stuff because it would cost them more than what it would be worth it for them. 1 hour ago, steve from amherst said: Is gas in the area you ride that far apart? I carry extra for riding at night and lots of places have been running out of fuel lately. Edited November 27, 2019 by SVT MXZ XRS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: Yea, they are truly pieces of shit. Someone copied grip n rips bracing and is selling knock offs on eBay. And someone copied a bad off of Sled Solutions and is outsourcing it to a Chinese company. Nothing can be done about it by either of them because they didn't put a patent on their stuff because it would cost them more than what it would be worth it for them. I carry extra for riding at night and lots of places have been running out of fuel lately. That's business bro. If you don't have a legal claim on something it ain't yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anler said: That's business bro. If you don't have a legal claim on something it ain't yours. It's what I call being a sorry piece of shit. It's a total dick move and the person who does it is a piece of shit. The simple way to help fight it is don't by off the scumbag piece of shit who copied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, SVT MXZ XRS said: It's what I call being a sorry piece of shit. It's a total dick move and the person who does it is a piece of shit. The simple way to help fight it is don't by off the scumbag piece of shit who copied. Sure is but like I said, happens every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anler said: Sure is but like I said, happens every day. I don't give scumbags piece of shit like that the time of day. I even called the douchebag out on the copying of GnR bracing and he tried telling me it was his own design Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Anler said: That's business bro. If you don't have a legal claim on something it ain't yours. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Just now, SVT MXZ XRS said: I don't give scumbags piece of shit like that the time of day. I even called the douchebag out on the copying of GnR bracing and he tried telling me it was his own design Doesn't really matter. Even if you do have a patent there are so many loop holes that people can copy your shit and just make a slight variation and call it their own. You can spend years and $$$ fighting about it in court but then the lawyers just get all of the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted November 27, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Anler said: That's business bro. If you don't have a legal claim on something it ain't yours. Yep, the days of creating something and charging a premium for it is dead. If you don't patent it, then you better be competitively priced in order to make it unprofitable for competition or it will get knocked off. Hell, my supplier charges me $20 for a pair of brackets. I buy 30-40 of them per pool and buy 15-20 pools per year. I went to a local fab shop and had them make me 1000 copies for $8/set. Fuck 'em! They are buying 10,000's of them at less than what I'm paying. I was getting raped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Blackstar said: Yep, the days of creating something and charging a premium for it is dead. If you don't patent it, then you better be competitively priced in order to make it unprofitable for competition or it will get knocked off. Hell, my supplier charges me $20 for a pair of brackets. I buy 30-40 of them per pool and buy 15-20 pools per year. I went to a local fab shop and had them make me 1000 copies for $8/set. Fuck 'em! They are buying 10,000's of them at less than what I'm paying. I was getting raped. China really changed the game on that stuff. They can make it for pennies on the dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted November 27, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Anler said: China really changed the game on that stuff. They can make it for pennies on the dollar. No doubt. For years I used to buy these skimmer winterizing plugs called Gizmo's. Some with pools may know what I mean. They had a patent on their design. A few years ago a chinese company started knocking them off. 15 years ago I used to pay $6 for one. Now I pay $4 for one cause the Chinese ones are $3.50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Blackstar said: No doubt. For years I used to buy these skimmer winterizing plugs called Gizmo's. Some with pools may know what I mean. They had a patent on their design. A few years ago a chinese company started knocking them off. 15 years ago I used to pay $6 for one. Now I pay $4 for one cause the Chinese ones are $3.50. My dad was a tool and die maker for 40 years. He said China could sell finished product for less than the cost of the stock here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 13 minutes ago, Blackstar said: No doubt. For years I used to buy these skimmer winterizing plugs called Gizmo's. Some with pools may know what I mean. They had a patent on their design. A few years ago a chinese company started knocking them off. 15 years ago I used to pay $6 for one. Now I pay $4 for one cause the Chinese ones are $3.50. you ever installed these in a pool, one of my former coworkers invented it and kept production in the states to slow down the chinese. Not sure how they ever sold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 22 minutes ago, Angry ginger said: you ever installed these in a pool, one of my former coworkers invented it and kept production in the states to slow down the chinese. Not sure how they ever sold No but my wife got one of these critter escape ladders for our pool. Not sure if it ever worked. I fished a bunch of frogs and turtles out of the pool this summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry ginger Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Anler said: No but my wife got one of these critter escape ladders for our pool. Not sure if it ever worked. I fished a bunch of frogs and turtles out of the pool this summer. these appear to really work pretty well those ladders are kinda stupid because they have to find their way to it where the skimmer brings the frogs to the ramp automatically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 4 hours ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: I have one on my 2020 MXZ XRS. You aren't going to get anything better than that. And the LinQ bags and fuel are 2nd to none. Owner is super cool. I've talked to him a couple of times. Once before ordering and after via email when some dick bag on FB asked me if I'd trace the template for him so he could make his own. I figure the owner should know about that. Guy blocked me on FB but I was able to screen shot the messages. Hate dickheads like that who try and steal other people's designs. It's already happens to 2 people I know jimmy krantz? that place is notorious for that shit . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Ez ryder said: jimmy krantz? that place is notorious for that shit . That wasn't the guys name who Pm'd me in FB tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar Posted November 28, 2019 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted November 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Angry ginger said: you ever installed these in a pool, one of my former coworkers invented it and kept production in the states to slow down the chinese. Not sure how they ever sold Everyone buys these. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, Blackstar said: Everyone buys these. That's the one we have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 8 hours ago, SVT MXZ XRS said: That wasn't the guys name who Pm'd me in FB tho. jimmy is BMp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 15 hours ago, Blackstar said: I'm looking to do more saddle bagging in the next couple years. The wife rides a '12 Vector short track and I have a '15 ZR 129. The Vector is limited to a set of bags which she has. I'm thinking we need to carry some backup fuel on my ZR and after looking around, I'm thinking the Linq stuff from Doo is likely the way to go. Both of us will be upgrading sleds again soon (her first and likely to a Doo 900, then me and currently thinking Doo Turbo but you never know). So my understanding is I'll need the adapter plate from Up North Technologies then I can buy the stackable fuel cell and trunk from Doo. https://upnorthtechnologies.com/shop/snowmobile-accessories/stand-alone-LINQ-adapter-bracket-systems/pro-series-stand-alone-linq-adapter-bracket-kit/ Not a cheap set up but if it does what I need for now and then is adaptable in the future, I think its the best choice. Thoughts? Maybe I'm not seeing everything that is out there. I've been running saddlebag trips in your country since 1996, the best setup for a sled is a rack that you can strap your luggage to (a backpack fits really well on the 129" tunnel, for carrying fuel you can go with a rotopak style jerry can and put them into saddlebags, in fact you can use one rotopak for fuel and another for oil. The beauty of a rack is that you can configure anyway you want and it's transferable to your next sled. On my 137" sleds I use an Arctic Cat roller bag like the one at the link, the other important thing is to put a ratchet strap across your gear.....NO BUNGIES! http://www.vortechmfg.com/Arctic_Cat.html https://www.ebay.com/itm/ARCTIC-CAT-OGIO-SMALL-2-WHEEL-ROLLER-BAG-BLACK-AND-GREEN-5262-902/222873871415?epid=1640687556&hash=item33e4516437:g:DJsAAOSwiuxaoZ0e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 Thanks to the OP for this thread. I need a bag for my XTX and I found one I like this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, Woodtick said: Thanks to the OP for this thread. I need a bag for my XTX and I found one I like this morning. Gotta have exhaust turnout or tunneldump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodtick Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 1 minute ago, f7ben said: Gotta have exhaust turnout or tunneldump I have a tremendous aftermarket exhaust with the turn out. It’s crazy loud,so I hope to get some trails shut down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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