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A high-powered group of external advisers is calling for a dramatic increase in Canada's immigration levels, but Immigration Minister John McCallum says that might be too ambitious.

McCallum said Wednesday he's read the report by the Advisory Council on Economic Growth that calls for a 50-per-cent increase in targets to 450,000 people a year.

The measure would target skilled, entrepreneurial newcomers in an attempt to stimulate economic growth.

The 14-member panel, chaired by Dominic Barton of the firm McKinsey and Co., is to deliver a set of recommendations to Finance Minister Bill Morneau on Thursday.

McCallum said meeting the target suggested by Barton's group would be costly and might not find broad national support.

"The figure he gives is a huge figure," McCallum said. "But this is not a universal view across the country."

Discussions are continuing and the government will announce immigration targets for 2017 next month, McCallum added.

McCallum's cabinet colleague, Economic Development Minister Navdeep Bains, told The Canadian Press on Wednesday that he's "worked very closely" with Barton's panel, and favours increased immigration levels. But he stopped short of endorsing the target in Barton's report.

"Clearly he's demonstrating an opportunity for Canada," Bains said. "We value our diversity, we value our multicultural society and we recognize immigration is an opportunity to create jobs."

The need for skilled labour

Bains said the government would need to sell the idea of higher immigration levels to the public.

"We, as a government, need to focus on communicating the benefits of growing the economy and part of that growth is investing in people and part of that equation is immigration."

Bains said bringing in more skilled workers is part of the government's broader agenda that includes investing in research and development, creating jobs and helping companies grow.

A survey released by Canadian Manufactures and Exporters said the most pressing challenge facing its member companies is "attracting or retaining skilled labour."

The response came from a survey and roundtable discussions with 1,300 member companies.

Matthew Wilson, the organization's senior vice president, said manufacturers have traditionally looked beyond Canada's border to find skilled workers.

"If we can expand that, that's good," he said in an interview.

Slower growth ahead

But the government needs to do more to make sure the immigrants they allow into Canada actually have skills that are needed, Wilson added.

"Just bringing in more immigrants isn't going to solve the skills-gap problem if they don't have the skills Canadian companies need."

The continuing need to address the country's sluggish economy was underscored Wednesday as the Bank of Canada downgraded its growth prediction.

The bank's latest outlook projected a real GDP expansion of 1.1 per cent this year, down from its earlier 1.3 per cent forecast.

Governor Stephen Poloz listed immigration as "one of the ingredients" for helping to reverse declining growth.

I can't believe McCallum had those thoughts. He must be drying out. Has anyone ever explained how "diversity" has helped Canada? I don't ever remember it being mentioned during Oshawa's Fiesta Week during its heydey.

Some talk on the CBC this morning & the reporter said most immigrants settle in the big cities, which doesn't help declining populations in rural & small town Canada. The reason those populations are declining is that there are no jobs there. Why would it make sense to plunk immigrants down in areas of unemployment? In Apsley, Asians already own the motel/restaurant and the "general store". I can't think of any other businesses they'd be interested in.  

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43 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

I guess you were too busy posting up stupid chain mail to realize this was just posted already in this thread.  Oh extrabaconbits just gave you a beating :lol:

So I missed a previous post big f&*(ing deal. You missed out on having any understanding of life, math and economics. Too bad.... did your parents ever have you tested :lol:No beating here.. just shows how badly you need to be tested.

2 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Actually most of those are wrong - look South TRUMP will make this the most Christian Leadership in history to quote him.  Sounds like pushing it on others to me.

I guy I know is venting about having lords prayer in schools again, he is so right wing its worst than you guys

 

And your HEALTH CARE comment is so wrong :nuts: you chain mail poster - who shops for health care holy fuck was that dumb

They sure as hell shop for health care in the U.S. TOTALLY WRONG AGAIN FAIL. There are Liberals and Conservatives on both sides of the border. :lol2:

He obviously like you missed the last line.... I had a good laugh.... the only ones upset will be the Liberal minded people. :lol2:

If a Conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh. A Liberal will delete it because he's "offended."
  

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5 minutes ago, 02sled said:

They sure as hell shop for health care in the U.S. TOTALLY WRONG AGAIN FAIL. There are Liberals and Conservatives on both sides of the border. :lol2:

He obviously like you missed the last line.... I had a good laugh.... the only ones upset will be the Liberal minded people. :lol2:

If a Conservative reads this, he'll forward it so his friends can have a good laugh. A Liberal will delete it because he's "offended."
  

Everyone should have health care and I know you think so too.  And noone shops for this, they go to the nearest hospital or doctor.  There are no special deals to be found.

I think extrabaconbits said it right (although he is a bit of a crack pot)

 

no worries 02sled

29 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Everyone should have health care and I know you think so too.  And noone shops for this, they go to the nearest hospital or doctor.  There are no special deals to be found.

I think extrabaconbits said it right (although he is a bit of a crack pot)

no worries 02sled

Damn Fail. Have you ever I mean ever traveled. Like I said they shop for healthcare in the U.S. Matter of fact lots of people shop for healthcare in Ontario as well. In the US they have a countless number of healthcare insurance coverage providers that people indeed shop for. They all have varying policies, limits, deductibles and more. Two of my US customers were Liberty Health and Dignity Health. Both healthcare insurance providers. Some of those healthcare insurers want you to go to specific healthcare providers.

While people in Ontario have OHIP lots of people who are either employed, unemployed or retired don't have supplemental healthcare coverage for what OHIP doesn't cover so yes they SHOP around for healthcare. The monthly premiums and coverages vary significantly.

In an emergency you are right they will go to the nearest hospital in Canada but lots of people shop around for a doctor. When my family doctor of almost 40 years retired I "shopped" around until I found a doctor I felt comfortable and confident with. I needed to see a specialist a while ago... my family doctor had a choice of who to send me to. He recommended one in particular based on his reputation over the others. That could be considered shopping around as well.

How can any one person be SO WRONG SO OFTEN FAIL.

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If the media didn't scare helicopter parents into thinking there's a child molester behind every tree, maybe kids would get to play outside.

The culture of driving kids to & from to school is ridiculous. The side street across the nearest school to me had cars parked on both sides @ 3 PM w/ parents waiting to pick up the rug rats. I went to the same school & we since most families @ the time, you were lucky if you got the occasional ride.

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1 hour ago, revrnd said:

If the media didn't scare helicopter parents into thinking there's a child molester behind every tree, maybe kids would get to play outside.

The culture of driving kids to & from to school is ridiculous. The side street across the nearest school to me had cars parked on both sides @ 3 PM w/ parents waiting to pick up the rug rats. I went to the same school & we since most families @ the time, you were lucky if you got the occasional ride.

Helicopter parents in Ontario send there kids to private or French immersion schools.  So coddle away.

Little Potato was on the news tonight, cozying up to Raul Castro down in Havana. 

 

When he's not hugging terrorists, there is no shortage of Communist dictators for Trudeau to hug. 

3 hours ago, Puzzleboy said:

Little Potato was on the news tonight, cozying up to Raul Castro down in Havana. 

 

When he's not hugging terrorists, there is no shortage of Communist dictators for Trudeau to hug. 

Yeah he was disappointed he said that he didn't get to meet with his fathers long time friend Fidel. Is he ever in Canada or just trotting around the world 

22 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

I  hope our Government does something, how about you?  do you really want to help them :dunno:  It wasn't more than a year ago where you guys were posting corruption with Chiefs and Bands - fuck them was the conclusion they get enough.

So what do you expect Trudeau to do? build them a store or just show up and look around

Listen to you same old blah blah blah.

 

When your hero JT does something news worthy let us know..  But same old selfie here and there.  Big effort to travel overseas to put Canada on map on UN Security Council.  What will the UN Security Council push cost us?  And what expertiese does JT have for sitting at UN?

How about spend some money on reserves as promised.  But monitor it.  Dont hand it over.  How abount a Native Canadian citizens council that is regulated.

 

5 hours ago, Puzzleboy said:

Little Potato was on the news tonight, cozying up to Raul Castro down in Havana. 

 

When he's not hugging terrorists, there is no shortage of Communist dictators for Trudeau to hug. 

Never seen him hug a terrorist :dunno:

Cuba has been our friend for a very long time, many Canadians travel there every year, so what is the problem? Castro hates American's like many countries around the world, the same can't be said about us.  You seem to wish this though. 

58 minutes ago, Sksman said:

Listen to you same old blah blah blah.

 

When your hero JT does something news worthy let us know..  But same old selfie here and there.  Big effort to travel overseas to put Canada on map on UN Security Council.  What will the UN Security Council push cost us?  And what expertiese does JT have for sitting at UN?

How about spend some money on reserves as promised.  But monitor it.  Dont hand it over.  How abount a Native Canadian citizens council that is regulated.

 

Well we have had a seat on the council since the beginning until Harper got us kicked off,  I know for you this was a proud moment in our History but really it was a sad moment.  I can just hear you if it was JT getting kicked off :nuts:    Stop with your Harper is the greatest and never did wrong.

 

AS for Natives (like you really care all of a sudden)

OTTAWA—The federal government will provide $69 million over the next three years for indigenous mental health services, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Monday after meeting a delegation of more than 20 aboriginal youth from northern Ontario.

The funding is designed to help communities tackle urgent mental health needs while the government works with indigenous leaders to negotiate a new health accord, the Prime Minister’s Office said in a statement.

A detailed breakdown of the new spending was not immediately available.

The money is intended to provide services including four crisis response teams in Ontario, Manitoba and Nunavut — identified as having the greatest need — as well as 32 additional mental wellness teams.

 

 

Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould, Status of Women Minister Patricia Hajdu, and Indigenous Affairs Minister Carolyn Bennett held a news conference on Parliament Hill hours later launching the first phase of an inquiry.

The ministers said they would start by meeting families of missing and murdered women this week.

Lifting 2% cap on education 

Trudeau also said his government would make significant investments in education and lift the two per cent cap on funding for First Nations programs, beginning with the first budget of 2016.

"As you know, that limit has been in place for nearly 20 years," Trudeau said. "It hasn't kept up with the demographic realities of your communities, nor the actual costs of program delivery.

"It's time for a new fiscal relationship with First Nations that gives your communities sufficient, predictable and sustained funding."


 

 

 

  • Launch a national public inquiry into missing and murdered indigenous women.
  • Make significant investments in First Nations education.
  • Lift the two per cent cap on funding for First Nations programs.
  • Implement all 94 recommendations from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
  • Repeal all legislation unilaterally imposed on indigenous people by the previous government.

"These are just five of the commitments we've made as part of our efforts to repair this most important relationship," Trudeau said in the address to First Nations leaders on Tuesday.


 

 

Compared to the last 10 years JT has done 10 times already but I doubt you will see this

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2 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Never seen him hug a terrorist :dunno:

Cuba has been our friend for a very long time, many Canadians travel there every year, so what is the problem? Castro hates American's like many countries around the world, the same can't be said about us.  You seem to wish this though. 

Friend?  A communist dictatorship?  Yes JT admires that.  People go to Cuba cause they are cheap plain and simple.  You can go, maybe it will make their lives better.

 

 

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40 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Well we have had a seat on the council since the beginning until Harper got us kicked off,  I know for you this was a proud moment in our History but really it was a sad moment.  I can just hear you if it was JT getting kicked off :nuts:    Stop with your Harper is the greatest and never did wrong.

 

AS for Natives (like you really care all of a sudden)

OTTAWA—The federal government will provide $69 million over the next three years for indigenous mental health services, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Monday after meeting a delegation of more than 20 aboriginal youth from northern Ontario.

The funding is designed to help communities tackle urgent mental health needs while the government works with indigenous leaders to negotiate a new health accord, the Prime Minister’s Office said in a statement.

A detailed breakdown of the new spending was not immediately available.

The money is intended to provide services including four crisis response teams in Ontario, Manitoba and Nunavut — identified as having the greatest need — as well as 32 additional mental wellness teams.

 

 

Justice Minister Jody Wilson-Raybould, Status of Women Minister Patricia Hajdu, and Indigenous Affairs Minister Carolyn Bennett held a news conference on Parliament Hill hours later launching the first phase of an inquiry.

The ministers said they would start by meeting families of missing and murdered women this week.

Lifting 2% cap on education 

Trudeau also said his government would make significant investments in education and lift the two per cent cap on funding for First Nations programs, beginning with the first budget of 2016.

"As you know, that limit has been in place for nearly 20 years," Trudeau said. "It hasn't kept up with the demographic realities of your communities, nor the actual costs of program delivery.

"It's time for a new fiscal relationship with First Nations that gives your communities sufficient, predictable and sustained funding."


 

 

 

  • Launch a national public inquiry into missing and murdered indigenous women.
  • Make significant investments in First Nations education.
  • Lift the two per cent cap on funding for First Nations programs.
  • Implement all 94 recommendations from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
  • Repeal all legislation unilaterally imposed on indigenous people by the previous government.

"These are just five of the commitments we've made as part of our efforts to repair this most important relationship," Trudeau said in the address to First Nations leaders on Tuesday.


 

 

Compared to the last 10 years JT has done 10 times already but I doubt you will see this

You can also toss a billion into a bonfire, about the results.

6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Friend?  A communist dictatorship?  Yes JT admires that.  People go to Cuba cause they are cheap plain and simple.  You can go, maybe it will make their lives better.

That is correct FRIEND - will you be bashing Trump for getting cozy with Russia?  you know the giant that was friendly with cuba?  no you will not.

1 million Canadians travel to Cuba every year which adds up to near 50% of all tourism for Cuba - We go there because it hadn't been invaded by USA yet and is really a nice country.

You need some history lessons - Friends long before Trudeau senior was around

Canada-Cuba relations can be traced back to the 18th century, when vessels from the Atlantic provinces of Canada traded codfish and beer for rum and sugar. Cuba was the first country in the Caribbean selected by Canada to locate a diplomatic mission and official diplomatic relations were established in 1945, when Emile Vaillancourt, a noted writer and historian, was designated Canada’s representative in Cuba. Canada and Mexico were the only two countries in the hemisphere not to break relations with Cuba in the years that followed the Cuban revolution in 1959.

 

Our Trade is near 1 billion dollars yearly between cuba and Canada and has been this way for decades.  Ontario is the largest exporter to Cuba, another benefit (150 million).  Wheat is Canada’s largest export product to Cuba. Wheat sales were worth $57 million

Exports increased under Harper and continue to increase

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commies :lol: there is an old saying of FEAR we grew up with, today is Terrorist (never ending fight)

21 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

You can also toss a billion into a bonfire, about the results.

no matter SK asked what he has done and that is alot more than has been done over the past 20 years and its only been like 10 months of power.

JT will be good for Canada, and then we will get tired of him and move on.

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1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said:

That is correct FRIEND - will you be bashing Trump for getting cozy with Russia?  you know the giant that was friendly with cuba?  no you will not.

1 million Canadians travel to Cuba every year which adds up to near 50% of all tourism for Cuba - We go there because it hadn't been invaded by USA yet and is really a nice country.

You need some history lessons - Friends long before Trudeau senior was around

Canada-Cuba relations can be traced back to the 18th century, when vessels from the Atlantic provinces of Canada traded codfish and beer for rum and sugar. Cuba was the first country in the Caribbean selected by Canada to locate a diplomatic mission and official diplomatic relations were established in 1945, when Emile Vaillancourt, a noted writer and historian, was designated Canada’s representative in Cuba. Canada and Mexico were the only two countries in the hemisphere not to break relations with Cuba in the years that followed the Cuban revolution in 1959.

 

Our Trade is near 1 billion dollars yearly between cuba and Canada and has been this way for decades.  Ontario is the largest exporter to Cuba, another benefit (150 million).  Wheat is Canada’s largest export product to Cuba. Wheat sales were worth $57 million

Exports increased under Harper and continue to increase

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commies :lol: there is an old saying of FEAR we grew up with, today is Terrorist (never ending fight)

Trump should continue to make gains with Russia and Cuba and any other country for that matter.

My point is Canadians go to Cuba cause it is the cheapest place on the planet you can go to.  Heck, you can't even stay in your own province for less.

Friends?  How are the human rights violations going?  Is JT condemning them or turning a blind eye?

Did JT take selfies with the locals?  Ask them how there doing?

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1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said:

no matter SK asked what he has done and that is alot more than has been done over the past 20 years and its only been like 10 months of power.

JT will be good for Canada, and then we will get tired of him and move on.

The only things I care about are the economy and financial health of the country, the rest is feel good fluff.  It will take a PM with balls to fix the issue with FN, and the current one is rather light in the loafers.

7 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Trump should continue to make gains with Russia and Cuba and any other country for that matter.

My point is Canadians go to Cuba cause it is the cheapest place on the planet you can go to.  Heck, you can't even stay in your own province for less.

Friends?  How are the human rights violations going?  Is JT condemning them or turning a blind eye?

Did JT take selfies with the locals?  Ask them how there doing?

Free health care and many other things - who fucking cares they are not beating people in the streets like china and Russia do :dunno:

and there are plenty of cheap places to travel too PLENTY.

 

Is JT turning a blind eye :lol: fuck didn't you read what I posted?  well over 100 years Canada has been friends with this nation :nuts: - I know Harper didn't exactly make new friends in Cuba but than again that seem consistent world wide.  But Harper did meet with Castro I remember this because of the outrage posted here about Harper hugging commies :lol:

“I have become convinced that a different approach is appropriate at this point in time,” Mr. Harper said Saturday after a private meeting with Mr. Castro at the Summit of the Americas in Panama City. “We’re at the point where an engagement is more likely to lead us to where we want to go than continued isolation.”

During the their conversation, Harper said he and Castro discussed the long-running relationship between their countries — on political, tourism and commercial levels.

The prime minister, who also noted how Canada helped facilitate the December deal between the U.S. and Cuba to work toward normalizing their diplomatic relations, gave little additional information about his own chat with Castro or how long it lasted.

"We had a good and long discussion with the president," said Harper, who had never met Castro.

 

JT is good for Canada - he has done nothing to hurt Canada YET

 

19 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

The only things I care about are the economy and financial health of the country, the rest is feel good fluff.  It will take a PM with balls to fix the issue with FN, and the current one is rather light in the loafers.

I think you are wrong, although he seems nice and supports women's issues proudly but don't for a minute think he is weak or light in the loafers.  He would kick the crap out of you that is fore sure :lol:

We will see what happens soon because there is going to be plenty of new shit coming up with President Trump at the helm.  Smooth ride isn't going to be apart of the next 4 years

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16 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

I think you are wrong, although he seems nice and supports women's issues proudly but don't for a minute think he is weak or light in the loafers.  He would kick the crap out of you that is fore sure :lol:

We will see what happens soon because there is going to be plenty of new shit coming up with President Trump at the helm.  Smooth ride isn't going to be apart of the next 4 years

I fight dirty.:lol:

He didn't beat the other the guy, the other guy beat himself by running out of steam.

Plus boxing is for fags, should have been an MMA style fight, JT would have been done in 15 seconds. 

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4 hours ago, Sksman said:

Listen to you same old blah blah blah.

 

When your hero JT does something news worthy let us know..  But same old selfie here and there.  Big effort to travel overseas to put Canada on map on UN Security Council.  What will the UN Security Council push cost us?  And what expertiese does JT have for sitting at UN?

How about spend some money on reserves as promised.  But monitor it.  Dont hand it over.  How abount a Native Canadian citizens council that is regulated.

 

As if that's ever going to happen. Truedope is too busy playing and having fun. If I recall he wanted to if he hasn't already reduce the oversight of where the money is being spent. 

Not sure what exactly he accomplished going to Cuba other than a government paid trip to the sun. It seems one of the biggies wa talking to students at the university in Havana. 

He was disappointed at not getting to meet with his fathers buddy Fidel. You have to wonder about someone who says they admire Chinese Communism and he and his family are buddies with Communist Castro

44 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

I fight dirty.:lol:

He didn't beat the other the guy, the other guy beat himself by running out of steam.

Plus boxing is for fags, should have been an MMA style fight, JT would have been done in 15 seconds. 

Don't forget Truedope has bouncer on his resume. 

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12 minutes ago, 02sled said:

As if that's ever going to happen. Truedope is too busy playing and having fun. If I recall he wanted to if he hasn't already reduce the oversight of where the money is being spent. 

Not sure what exactly he accomplished going to Cuba other than a government paid trip to the sun. It seems one of the biggies wa talking to students at the university in Havana. 

He was disappointed at not getting to meet with his fathers buddy Fidel. You have to wonder about someone who says they admire Chinese Communism and he and his family are buddies with Communist Castro

Fidel blew him off, he met the leader of Vietnam the day before.:lol:

12 minutes ago, 02sled said:

As if that's ever going to happen. Truedope is too busy playing and having fun. If I recall he wanted to if he hasn't already reduce the oversight of where the money is being spent. 

Not sure what exactly he accomplished going to Cuba other than a government paid trip to the sun. It seems one of the biggies wa talking to students at the university in Havana. 

He was disappointed at not getting to meet with his fathers buddy Fidel. You have to wonder about someone who says they admire Chinese Communism and he and his family are buddies with Communist Castro

I wonder about people that have been pointed to a quote yet still continue to make shit up :lol: too funny

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