http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/immigration-system-increase-mccallum-1.3812749

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A high-powered group of external advisers is calling for a dramatic increase in Canada's immigration levels, but Immigration Minister John McCallum says that might be too ambitious.

McCallum said Wednesday he's read the report by the Advisory Council on Economic Growth that calls for a 50-per-cent increase in targets to 450,000 people a year.

The measure would target skilled, entrepreneurial newcomers in an attempt to stimulate economic growth.

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The 14-member panel, chaired by Dominic Barton of the firm McKinsey and Co., is to deliver a set of recommendations to Finance Minister Bill Morneau on Thursday.

McCallum said meeting the target suggested by Barton's group would be costly and might not find broad national support.

"The figure he gives is a huge figure," McCallum said. "But this is not a universal view across the country."

Discussions are continuing and the government will announce immigration targets for 2017 next month, McCallum added.

McCallum's cabinet colleague, Economic Development Minister Navdeep Bains, told The Canadian Press on Wednesday that he's "worked very closely" with Barton's panel, and favours increased immigration levels. But he stopped short of endorsing the target in Barton's report.

"Clearly he's demonstrating an opportunity for Canada," Bains said. "We value our diversity, we value our multicultural society and we recognize immigration is an opportunity to create jobs."

The need for skilled labour

Bains said the government would need to sell the idea of higher immigration levels to the public.

"We, as a government, need to focus on communicating the benefits of growing the economy and part of that growth is investing in people and part of that equation is immigration."

Bains said bringing in more skilled workers is part of the government's broader agenda that includes investing in research and development, creating jobs and helping companies grow.

A survey released by Canadian Manufactures and Exporters said the most pressing challenge facing its member companies is "attracting or retaining skilled labour."

The response came from a survey and roundtable discussions with 1,300 member companies.

Matthew Wilson, the organization's senior vice president, said manufacturers have traditionally looked beyond Canada's border to find skilled workers.

"If we can expand that, that's good," he said in an interview.

Slower growth ahead

But the government needs to do more to make sure the immigrants they allow into Canada actually have skills that are needed, Wilson added.

"Just bringing in more immigrants isn't going to solve the skills-gap problem if they don't have the skills Canadian companies need."

The continuing need to address the country's sluggish economy was underscored Wednesday as the Bank of Canada downgraded its growth prediction.

The bank's latest outlook projected a real GDP expansion of 1.1 per cent this year, down from its earlier 1.3 per cent forecast.

Governor Stephen Poloz listed immigration as "one of the ingredients" for helping to reverse declining growth.

© The Canadian Press, 2016 

I can't believe McCallum had those thoughts. He must be drying out. Has anyone ever explained how "diversity" has helped Canada? I don't ever remember it being mentioned during Oshawa's Fiesta Week during its heydey.

Some talk on the CBC this morning & the reporter said most immigrants settle in the big cities, which doesn't help declining populations in rural & small town Canada. The reason those populations are declining is that there are no jobs there. Why would it make sense to plunk immigrants down in areas of unemployment? In Apsley, Asians already own the motel/restaurant and the "general store". I can't think of any other businesses they'd be interested in.  

38 minutes ago, Sksman said:

You are such a dope.

Cubas hotels are over 50% owned by the military.  So stay in a hotel gives money to military.

Average wage for cleaner in hotel,is $20/month.

Lucky we help them out eh Fail.

LINK?

 

I think they are doing better than 75 cents a day -  and if not even more reason to lift embargo's

39 minutes ago, revrnd said:

That's the figure Stephen LeDrew gave as the wage. I wasn't sure if that was just a figure he was pulling out of thin air.

W/ an income like that they'll be lining up to buy machinery & cereal from Canada.

 

In 2011, Canada exported over $115.1 mil

lion in domestic agri

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food products to Cuba.

This is an increase of over 9% from 2010 ($105 million), which accounted for

approximately 7% of Cuba's food imports. Top agri

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food exports from Canada to Cuba in

2011 included wheat nes and meslin, accounting f

or more than half of all agri

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food

exports (55.3%), followed by dried, shelled peas (16.7%), durum wheat (6.9%), milk

powder (5%), and boneless, frozen bovine cuts (3.6%). Of Canada's largest agri

-

food

exports, products which lead growth in 2011 included wheat nes and meslin (increase of

25.8%), durum wheat (increase of 216.7%), milk powder (increase of 50.9%) chicken

and capon cuts and edible offal (increase of 1,629.8%), cured swine bellies, streaky and

cuts (increase of 57.7%), lucerne (alfalfa) meal and

pellets (increase of 123.1%), and

frozen nes swine cuts (increase of 304.7%).

Canada's Top 5 Agricultural Exports to Cuba (2011)

Wheat nes and meslin

$63.7 million

Peas, dried, shelled

$19.2 million

Durum wheat

$8.0 million

Milk powder (not exceeding 1.5% fat)

$5.8 million

Bovine cuts boneless, frozen

$4.2 million

 

 

here is a pdf of what was done in 2015 - 1/2 billion they buy from canada

http://www.canadainternational.gc.ca/ci-ci/assets/pdfs/fact_sheet-fiche_documentaire/Cuba-FS-en.pdf

 

Alberta's exports to Cuba:

CDN $52.5 million (2010)

Alberta's main exports to Cuba:

• Wheat
• Parts of boring or sinking machinery
• Additives for mineral oils
• Machinery for washing or screening stones
• Electrical parts and appliances
• Milk/cream powder
• Filtering or purifying machinery
• Motor vehicles (non-transport purposes)
• Engines
• Lifting machinery
• Iron or steel articles
• Plastics
• Pumps
• Mechanical shovels and excavators
• Parts of instruments for measuring liquids or gases
• Surveying or geophysical instruments
• Rock drilling or earth boring tools

Canada's main exports to Cuba:

• Sulphur
• Wheat
• Peas
• Potash
• Copper
• Worn clothing and textile articles
• Milk/cream powder
• Parts of boring or sinking machinery
• Iron or steel articles, structures and parts

Still peanuts in the grand scheme especially when you consider this is for all of Canads. There are single companies that exceed that many times over each year let alone a whole country 

3 minutes ago, 02sled said:

Still peanuts in the grand scheme especially when you consider this is for all of Canads. There are single companies that exceed that many times over each year let alone a whole country 

well the do under 1.8 billoin a year and near 1/3 with Canada -  In their big picture we are a huge asset to Cuba

16 minutes ago, 02sled said:

Still peanuts in the grand scheme especially when you consider this is for all of Canada. There are single companies that exceed that many times over each year let alone a whole country 

To put this number in perspective:

General Motors will spend US$877 million to build a new body shop and assembly equipment at its Flint Truck Assembly plant. (From the Detroit Free Press. The new paint shop in Oshawa (visible from the 401) was a CDN$500 million investment when it was built in the 2000s.

Just recently Fiat Chrysler announced they will spend CDN$325 million to refurbish the paint shop in Brampton. 

Any trade is good, but I wouldn't say that Cuba's trade is significant to the Canadian economy.

Fail, just search Cuba average wage.

Multiple sources $20/month.  30/month.  Many very poor Cubans well below poverty.

There living costs are much different.

 

You posted a graph above from 2005 making projections to 2021.  Link?  What year was it produced?  

Cuban middle class represents how much of Cuban population?  In 2013 there were 12 million people in Cuba.  Your graph shows just over 2 million in middle class making $20,000 in their family.  That leaves 10 million outside of middle class.

There are not millions of rich people in Cuba.  So vast majority are very poor.  This is supported by most articles i have read.

Most have very little disposable income.

4 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

Alberta's exports to Cuba:

CDN $52.5 million (2010)

Alberta's main exports to Cuba:

• Wheat
• Parts of boring or sinking machinery
• Additives for mineral oils
• Machinery for washing or screening stones
• Electrical parts and appliances
• Milk/cream powder
• Filtering or purifying machinery
• Motor vehicles (non-transport purposes)
• Engines
• Lifting machinery
• Iron or steel articles
• Plastics
• Pumps
• Mechanical shovels and excavators
• Parts of instruments for measuring liquids or gases
• Surveying or geophysical instruments
• Rock drilling or earth boring tools

Canada's main exports to Cuba:

• Sulphur
• Wheat
• Peas
• Potash
• Copper
• Worn clothing and textile articles
• Milk/cream powder
• Parts of boring or sinking machinery
• Iron or steel articles, structures and parts

$52 million /year we export to a country with a population 12million people.  State run.  

I guess JT was down there to get imports elevated to 100million with government spending.  Use his policical contacts.  That would be why he avoided the slums and desolate areas.  Stuck to the state controlled tourist spots.

 

Selfies dont look good when your standing with poor people in run down shacks.

7 hours ago, 1trailmaker said:

well the do under 1.8 billoin a year and near 1/3 with Canada -  In their big picture we are a huge asset to Cuba

The point Cuba isn't  a huge asset to Canada and this trip for Truedope did NOTHING for Canada or its economy or Canadians but it gave Sophie and him a week in the sun and yet another chance for hey everyone look at me and take my picture. Where do you suddenly pull $1.8B from since the graph you showed was under $200M? Or are you screwed up on your math as usual and confusing $180M as $1.8B. Or are you trying to say Cuba will import $1.8B and 1/3 with Canada. If you are your own graphics and statements are wrong. 1/3 of $1.8B is vastly different than the under $200M in your graph or are you still pulling numbers out of your head.

Edited November 18, 20168 yr by 02sled

2 hours ago, Sksman said:

Fail, just search Cuba average wage.

Multiple sources $20/month.  30/month.  Many very poor Cubans well below poverty.

There living costs are much different.

 

You posted a graph above from 2005 making projections to 2021.  Link?  What year was it produced?  

Cuban middle class represents how much of Cuban population?  In 2013 there were 12 million people in Cuba.  Your graph shows just over 2 million in middle class making $20,000 in their family.  That leaves 10 million outside of middle class.

There are not millions of rich people in Cuba.  So vast majority are very poor.  This is supported by most articles i have read.

Most have very little disposable income.

no doubt they are not rich, but than again how many in Canada are not rich and live pay to pay?

Not sure why but only 2011-12 years seem to come up when searching Cuba, something must of happened around that date to make the news report on it.

If you can link to people only making .75c a day please post it - the chart posted says making OVER 20k.

as for 10 million outside middle class earnings, all children and all seniors would fall into that class.  What does that leave?

 

What exactly are you and 02sled arguing about? leave Cuba adn don't trade, Trudeau?  oh I get it now Trudeau, its all clear now

2 hours ago, Sksman said:

$52 million /year we export to a country with a population 12million people.  State run.  

I guess JT was down there to get imports elevated to 100million with government spending.  Use his policical contacts.  That would be why he avoided the slums and desolate areas.  Stuck to the state controlled tourist spots.

 

Selfies dont look good when your standing with poor people in run down shacks.

Alberta - wow just fucking wow

Canada does 1/2 billion its been stated many times already - near 1/3 of their entire trade.  and we buy 1/2 billion from them.  What don't you get?

You guys with your selfie comments really sound childish, why do you keep saying this shit?  Your Trump you all hoped for Tweets anger and stuff dail why no comments about that?  Oh I know why, its all clear again

8 minutes ago, 02sled said:

The point Cuba isn't  a huge asset to Canada and this trip for Truedope did NOTHING for Canada or its economy or Canadians but it gave Sophie and him a week in the sun and yet another chance for hey everyone look at me and take my picture.

ya that is Justin's goal - take my picture

We are an asset to Cuba not the other way around

 

What do we import from Columbia besides cocaine?  Harper visited many times not a peep - actually not a peep about Harper in the 8 years of FS -  again its all clear

 

 

14 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Alberta - wow just fucking wow

Canada does 1/2 billion its been stated many times already - near 1/3 of their entire trade.  and we buy 1/2 billion from them.  What don't you get?

It's only you that seems to be able to imagine in your head $1/2B. We couldn't possibly buy $500M in cigars. What do they have that we need so badly. Still $500M is chump change. As pointed out look at what stand alone companies  are investing in their own business 

Edited November 18, 20168 yr by 02sled

1 minute ago, 02sled said:

It's only you that seems to be able to imagine in your head $1/2B your own graphics showed about $180M in total

wrong

Look I post the info right from canada gov site - you can believe or not I really don't care.  Just go back to bashing JT on everything he does, claim selfie and call it a another worthless day

Just for you fail.   I do not know how to copy a link. But google average wage in Cuba.

 

Cubans saw their average monthly salaries increase in 2014

 

Written by RATB

 

• Print
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Published on 4 September 2015 by Cuban News Agency

The average monthly salary in Cuba reported a significant 24-percent increase in 2014 with respect to the previous years, particularly for sugar workers, according to an article published on Juventud Rebelde newspaper.

While the general monthly average salary grew to 584 pesos (some 24,3 US dollars at current exchange), compared to 471 pesos (some 19,6 dollars) in 2013, the sugar sector reported an average 963 pesos (some 40.1 dollars) a month.

This salary raise was particularly due to the increase in the health sector, which employs over 400 thousand workers, as well as in some sports areas and in the foreign investment sector, meaning workers employed by companies operating with foreign capital, as part of a policy to gradually raise the salaries of state workers, the article explains and cites the National Statistics Office data on its Employment and Salary chapter.

According to the article, no significant salary increase will take place in 2015, since the authorities have not announced any substantial salary growth in any state sector that involves a large mass of worker as it happened in 2014.

Then those who saw their salaries grow more were employees in state companies and joint ventures, sugar workers, followed by those in the mining sector and in the area of science and technological innovation. Then came those in health care, social assistance, agriculture, livestock and ranching and in fishing.

Meanwhile the lowest salaries were those of persons working in hotels, state restaurants which only reached some 377 pesos a month (some 15,7 dollars), 35,4 percent below the country's average salary of 5 84 pesos. Add to this group, those who work in the public administration, the defense, culture, sports and social security sectors, where monthly salaries reached up to 485 pesos (20.2 dollars). Education, a massive sector, also remain at 500 pesos as average monthly salary, little over 24 dollars.

But the other side of the coin is that although the increase in the average monthly salary is considered significant, the salary is still far from playing its role to encourage labor and to meet daily necessities, given the huge gap between the wages and current prices of good and foodstuffs. What relieves the Cuban family's financial situation in socialist Cuba is that the salary is part of a stable income at the end of the day, given by free or highly subsidized services, which are really expensive in other countries. These expenses do not affect the salaries, since they are paid by the state, such as all medical and education services, pharmaceuticals, and utilities like telephone, water, and other ones.

However, even with the capacity of Cuban families to join efforts to cushion everyday life necessities, some find it difficult to cope with low salaries and high prices, even more when there is still the challenge posed by a double-currency economy.

• Cuba
•  

20 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

You guys with your selfie comments really sound childish, why do you keep saying this shit?  Your Trump you all hoped for Tweets anger and stuff dail why no comments about that?  Oh I know why, its all clear again

Nice try yet again at deflection. But you are slipping. The deflection is becoming more obvious. What is this topic... Oh yeah is Truedope doing a good job. Nothing about Trump but whe your taking your usual beating you try and deflect away to a totally different subject. Why do we mention selfies? Because that is what he made himself famous for. Even the media refers to his penchant for wanting his picture taken 

Edited November 18, 20168 yr by 02sled

4 minutes ago, Sksman said:

Just for you fail.   I do not know how to copy a link. But google average wage in Cuba.

 

Cubans saw their average monthly salaries increase in 2014

 

Written by RATB

 

• Print
• Email

 

Published on 4 September 2015 by Cuban News Agency

The average monthly salary in Cuba reported a significant 24-percent increase in 2014 with respect to the previous years, particularly for sugar workers, according to an article published on Juventud Rebelde newspaper.

While the general monthly average salary grew to 584 pesos (some 24,3 US dollars at current exchange), compared to 471 pesos (some 19,6 dollars) in 2013, the sugar sector reported an average 963 pesos (some 40.1 dollars) a month.

This salary raise was particularly due to the increase in the health sector, which employs over 400 thousand workers, as well as in some sports areas and in the foreign investment sector, meaning workers employed by companies operating with foreign capital, as part of a policy to gradually raise the salaries of state workers, the article explains and cites the National Statistics Office data on its Employment and Salary chapter.

According to the article, no significant salary increase will take place in 2015, since the authorities have not announced any substantial salary growth in any state sector that involves a large mass of worker as it happened in 2014.

Then those who saw their salaries grow more were employees in state companies and joint ventures, sugar workers, followed by those in the mining sector and in the area of science and technological innovation. Then came those in health care, social assistance, agriculture, livestock and ranching and in fishing.

Meanwhile the lowest salaries were those of persons working in hotels, state restaurants which only reached some 377 pesos a month (some 15,7 dollars), 35,4 percent below the country's average salary of 5 84 pesos. Add to this group, those who work in the public administration, the defense, culture, sports and social security sectors, where monthly salaries reached up to 485 pesos (20.2 dollars). Education, a massive sector, also remain at 500 pesos as average monthly salary, little over 24 dollars.

But the other side of the coin is that although the increase in the average monthly salary is considered significant, the salary is still far from playing its role to encourage labor and to meet daily necessities, given the huge gap between the wages and current prices of good and foodstuffs. What relieves the Cuban family's financial situation in socialist Cuba is that the salary is part of a stable income at the end of the day, given by free or highly subsidized services, which are really expensive in other countries. These expenses do not affect the salaries, since they are paid by the state, such as all medical and education services, pharmaceuticals, and utilities like telephone, water, and other ones.

However, even with the capacity of Cuban families to join efforts to cushion everyday life necessities, some find it difficult to cope with low salaries and high prices, even more when there is still the challenge posed by a double-currency economy.

• Cuba
•  

Interesting post

I wonder what free medicine, free healthcare, from hydro, free phone, free water, free free free adds up to - here we turn peoples hydro off for none payment

 

I think there is more to this then you think

5 minutes ago, 02sled said:

Nice try yet again at deflection. But you are slipping. The deflection is becoming more obvious. What is this topic... Oh yeah is Truedope doing a good job. Nothing about Trump but whe your taking your usual beating you try and deflect away to a totally different subject. Why do we mention selfies? Because that is what he made himself famous for. Even the media refers to his penchant for wanting his picture taken 

First thing is you don't even know what a selfie is, I have never seen Trudeau take a selfie but have seen regular people take a selfie with Justin, you know like they did with Rob Ford best Mayor ever - never a word about all the selfies he was in.

If I saw Trudeau or Rob (rip) or Harper I wouldn't mind a selfie with any of them.  Why not?

 

What beating?  I think Trudeau is doing fine so far world wide.  You don't - how is that a beating in your world

2 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

Interesting post

I wonder what free medicine, free healthcare, from hydro, free phone, free water, free free free adds up to - here we turn peoples hydro off for none payment

 

I think there is more to this then you think

They are a highly subsidized country.  The military owns/controls 50% of the hotels i read.   So any travel there pretty much puts money direct to military.

yes they have free health care etc. But the large majority also do not have a large disposable income.  There is housing issues.  If you are wealthy it is easy to move up in housing but the poor struggle to get by daily.  I imagine similar to some cases here.

23 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

ya that is Justin's goal - take my picture

We are an asset to Cuba not the other way around

 

What do we import from Columbia besides cocaine?  Harper visited many times not a peep - actually not a peep about Harper in the 8 years of FS -  again its all clear

 

 

Yet another deflection. Does your boss keep comparing you to the person who did your job before you. I don't think if your boss is giving you criticism you come back with Well Bob did. The topic is Truedope 

9 minutes ago, 1trailmaker said:

First thing is you don't even know what a selfie is, I have never seen Trudeau take a selfie but have seen regular people take a selfie with Justin, you know like they did with Rob Ford best Mayor ever - never a word about all the selfies he was in.

If I saw Trudeau or Rob (rip) or Harper I wouldn't mind a selfie with any of them.  Why not?

 

What beating?  I think Trudeau is doing fine so far world wide.  You don't - how is that a beating in your world

Because you are getting beat here on your perception that Truedope going to Cuba was a wonderful thing for Canadians and not just a paid for get away to the sun for him and Sophie. It did nothing for Canadians except piss away tax $s.

Or perhaps the beating on the for profit Qatar funded hospital for tourists you think is a typical Cuban hospital 

Yes I do know what a selfie is and Truedope has done some, has posed for many and just loves every opportunity to get his picture taken. I wonder if Sophie had her government paid assistant along on the trip. She probably needed help choosing the outfit of the day

Edited November 18, 20168 yr by 02sled

1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said:

Interesting post

I wonder what free medicine, free healthcare, from hydro, free phone, free water, free free free adds up to - here we turn peoples hydro off for none payment

 

I think there is more to this then you think

Here is another, doctor get salary increase to $67/month.  That's right the difference between the lowest paid and one of the top paid is only a multiple of 3.  Castro stole everything from the wealthy and middle for himself, then pays peanuts while making everyone dependent on government subsidies.   Sounds like a Liberal utopia, no wonder Trudope is full of hugs and kisses.

 

http://www.medicaldaily.com/cuban-doctors-get-salary-raises-67-month-after-government-cuts-100k-redundant-jobs-272310

1 hour ago, 1trailmaker said:

ya that is Justin's goal - take my picture

We are an asset to Cuba not the other way around

 

What do we import from Columbia besides cocaine?  Harper visited many times not a peep - actually not a peep about Harper in the 8 years of FS -  again its all clear

 

 

Show me one picture of Harper where he is hugging a POS like JT is?

4 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Here is another, doctor get salary increase to $67/month.  That's right the difference between the lowest paid and one of the top paid is only a multiple of 3.  Castro stole everything from the wealthy and middle for himself, then pays peanuts while making everyone dependent on government subsidies.   Sounds like a Liberal utopia, no wonder Trudope is full of hugs and kisses.

 

http://www.medicaldaily.com/cuban-doctors-get-salary-raises-67-month-after-government-cuts-100k-redundant-jobs-272310

Liberal?  hmmmm just this one line is enough

give workers a pay raise after cutting 100,000 redundant jobs in 4 years -  that was the Conservatives platform under Hudak wft are you talking about

The numbers are spot on