Mainecat Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 What an asshole .... Trump pressured Nielsen to release detained immigrants into so-called sanctuary cities By Evan Perez, CNN Justice Correspondent Washington (CNN)The Trump administration pressured the Department of Homeland Security to release immigrants detained at the southern border into so-called sanctuary cities in part to retaliate against Democrats who oppose President Donald Trump's plans for a border wall, a source familiar with the discussions told CNN on Thursday. Trump personally pushed Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen to follow through on the plan, the source said. Nielsen resisted and the DHS legal team eventually produced an analysis that killed the plan, which was first reported by The Washington Post. The proposal is another example of Trump's willingness to enact hardline immigration policies to deliver on border security, a key issue for his political base. Thursday's reports come as the President has amplified his rhetoric on illegal immigration in recent weeks, even threatening to close the southern border if Congress and Mexico don't take action. White House senior adviser Stephen Miller urged senior DHS officials to make the plan a reality, the source said. The plan finally died after Miller and other White House officials pushed it in February, according to the source. Miller was angered that DHS lawyers refused to produce legal guidance that would make the plan viable, saying the proposal would likely be illegal. DHS officials believe that the legal standoff is one reason why Miller has pushed for the firing of John Mitnick, the general counsel for DHS, who is still with the department. A separate DHS official confirmed there was such a proposal. "These are human beings, not game pieces," the official said. Asked to comment, a DHS spokesperson said, "This was a suggestion that was floated and rejected, which ended any further discussion." Another DHS official briefed on the matter disputed that the proposal reached Nielsen. Nielsen left DHS this week after she was forced to resign. "Sanctuary city" is a broad term applied to jurisdictions that have policies in place designed to limit cooperation with or involvement in federal immigration enforcement actions. Cities, counties and some states have a range of informal policies as well as laws that qualify as "sanctuary" positions. Most of the policies center on not cooperating with federal law enforcement on immigration policies. Many of the largest cities in the country have forms of such policies. A spokeswoman for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi ripped Trump over the Thursday night reports. "The extent of this administration's cynicism and cruelty cannot be overstated," Ashley Etienne said in a statement. "Using human beings — including little children — as pawns in their warped game to perpetuate fear and demonize immigrants is despicable, and in some cases, criminal. The American people have resoundingly rejected this Administration's toxic anti-immigrant policies, and Democrats will continue to advance immigration policies that keep us safe and honor our values." https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/04/11/politics/immigrant-detainees-sanctuary-cities/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3600 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 What’s the big deal? Those cities love them some illegals, sounds like a problem with a solution to me. Unless that sanctuary line is just a bunch of liberal hot air. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 It's really kind of funny, I mean we know Trump is a fuck you kind of guy and let's be honest we know fuck you kind of guys do come up with some fucked up ideas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 he should pack everyone of those cities asshole to elbow with all the illegal fucks.. lets see how they like that. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 30 minutes ago, F3600 said: What’s the big deal? Those cities love them some illegals, sounds like a problem with a solution to me. Unless that sanctuary line is just a bunch of liberal hot air. Agreed, 17 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said: It's really kind of funny, I mean we know Trump is a fuck you kind of guy and let's be honest we know fuck you kind of guys do come up with some fucked up ideas Fast and Furious ring a fucking bell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 31 minutes ago, F3600 said: What’s the big deal? Those cities love them some illegals, sounds like a problem with a solution to me. Unless that sanctuary line is just a bunch of liberal hot air. YUP. We should give them transport directly from the border to the heart of any sanctuary city. See? Problem solved! Well, except for Dems keeping their elected seats in those cities of course. But again..PROBLEM SOLVED! This is a win win for everyone! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Zambroski said: YUP. We should give them transport directly from the border to the heart of any sanctuary city. See? Problem solved! Well, except for Dems keeping their elected seats in those cities of course. But again..PROBLEM SOLVED! This is a win win for everyone! And it just exemplifies the basic problem many voters have with the policy. Why wait 10 years, lets show them the issues right now and end the bad policies. OH NO, don't want to do that....instead, they will have 10 years of "facts" and '"statistics" explaining how said policies really have no effect. IDIOTS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 What next moving all the Negroes in the country to Montana? Dictators do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, racer254 said: And it just exemplifies the basic problem many voters have with the policy. Why wait 10 years, lets show them the issues right now and end the bad policies. OH NO, don't want to do that....instead, they will have 10 years of "facts" and '"statistics" explaining how said policies really have no effect. IDIOTS. It's idiocy TDS. That's it, period. We're a nation of cliqued up, retarded contrarian whiners No real solutions....just a lot of pent up bitch. Imbeciles that, over the Obama years, have convinced themselves they are the "intellectually elite" when in reality, nobody around them listens to much at all of their total nonsense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Mainecat said: What next moving all the Negroes in the country to Montana? Dictators do this Just go. Go sit by your nickel glass of brandy and fire up a Swisher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mainecat said: What next moving all the Negroes in the country to Montana? Dictators do this Have you ever heard of low income housing projects? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, Pete said: he should pack everyone of those cities asshole to elbow with all the illegal fucks.. lets see how they like that. Yeah that will show ‘em....go get ‘em Angry Dopo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jimmy Snacks said: Yeah that will show ‘em....go get ‘em Angry Dopo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!’🤣 fuck off.. Potsy stop following me around.. fucking weirdo. You got a serious hard on for me and woolie... Its very obvious. Get a life for Christ sake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, racer254 said: Agreed, Fast and Furious ring a fucking bell? something that's done quite often in investigations. btw, i thought people kill people, not guns? explain please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, Pete said: fuck off.. Potsy stop following me around.. fucking weirdo. You got a serious hard on for me and woolie... Its very obvious. Get a life for Christ sake Oh look....Woolie has an angry little cheerleader....how cute!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 21 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: something that's done quite often in investigations. btw, i thought people kill people, not guns? explain please. What's that? And yes, people do kill people, sometimes they use guns to do it. FFS you should stop being an idiot with your little "intellectual elite" gotcha sayings...LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 28 minutes ago, racer254 said: What's that? And yes, people do kill people, sometimes they use guns to do it. FFS you should stop being an idiot with your little "intellectual elite" gotcha sayings...LOL OMG. putting something into an illegal system and following it through the system to nab the bad guys. are you this naive in everyday life? "Gunwalking", or "letting guns walk", was a tactic of the Arizona Field Office of the United States Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), which ran a series of sting operations[2][3] between 2006[4] and 2011[2][5] in the Tucson and Phoenix area where the ATF "purposely allowed licensed firearms dealers to sell weapons to illegal straw buyers, hoping to track the guns to Mexican drug cartel leaders and arrest them".[6] These operations were done under the umbrella of Project Gunrunner, a project intended to stem the flow of firearms into Mexico by interdicting straw purchasers and gun traffickers within the United States.[7] The Jacob Chambers Case began in October 2009 and eventually became known in February 2010 as "Operation Fast and Furious" after agents discovered Chambers and the other suspects under investigation belonged to a car club.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATF_gunwalking_scandal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 why are you blaming the gun, or the person who "sold" the gun, for a murder, racer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 putting something into an illegal system and following it through the system to nab the bad guys. Maybe trump was trying to do the same with this policy? But but but but....it's TRUMP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 This is like a firefighter starting fires just so he can put them out. Trump is a piece of shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mainecat said: This is like a firefighter starting fires just so he can put them out. Trump is a piece of shit. so are you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Why is Trump releasing them in the US? I thought we were full? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted April 12, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Anler said: Why is Trump releasing them in the US? I thought we were full? Its the law. They are to show back up for hearings but rarely ever do. Sanctuary cities want them why is it so bad to send them there? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Its the law. They are to show back up for hearings but rarely ever do. Sanctuary cities want them why is it so bad to send them there? Fine with me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 CNN!!!! Those inside the admin said there was no pressure and had nothing to do with her being let go. The idea was floated and quickly shot down. MC and his glorious cable news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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