Gold Member BOHICA Posted January 21, 2019 Gold Member Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Who hates immigrants now. Fucking Dems are the scat of America https://www.foxnews.com/politics/in-shutdown-fight-dems-reject-deal-they-once-sponsored Edited January 21, 2019 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Dems are in a bad place here. Trumps approval amung latinos is skyrocketing. Trump will get the wall and his base will all re elect him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted January 21, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Who hates immigrants now. Fucking Dems are the scat of America https://www.foxnews.com/politics/in-shutdown-fight-dems-reject-deal-they-once-sponsored 15 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: Dems are in a bad place here. Trumps approval amung latinos is skyrocketing. Trump will get the wall and his base will all re elect him. No doubt.... they have zero interest in negotiating we all know what it's about Edited January 21, 2019 by ViperGTS/Z1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Trump superfucked up by shutting down. He owns it. It was a bad tactical mistake. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member ViperGTS/Z1 Posted January 21, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Trump superfucked up by shutting down. He owns it. It was a bad tactical mistake. Neal I don't think so.... this can't go on all that much longer without people realizing pelosi/shumer are totally unwilling to negotiate and compromise on anything. They will start feeling the pressure and cave ...Trump will win again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racer254 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: I don't think so.... this can't go on all that much longer without people realizing pelosi/shumer are totally unwilling to negotiate and compromise on anything. They will start feeling the pressure and cave ...Trump will win again As they should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: I don't think so.... this can't go on all that much longer without people realizing pelosi/shumer are totally unwilling to negotiate and compromise on anything. They will start feeling the pressure and cave ...Trump will win again ditto. They are going to start being hurt by the immigrant/hispanic votes also. These people want DACA as they showed the last time this fuckery went on. Only way Trump loses is if he backs down. He does that and...fuck him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, ViperGTS/Z1 said: I don't think so.... this can't go on all that much longer without people realizing pelosi/shumer are totally unwilling to negotiate and compromise on anything. They will start feeling the pressure and cave ...Trump will win again You don't think perhaps... Neal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 21, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) Didn’t Dump tell the nation he’d own the shut down......just in case you forgot....... Edited January 21, 2019 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 21, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 21, 2019 Looks like winning for a Dumper Polls agree: Americans don't like shutdown, blame Trump Government shutdown nearing one-month mark Getty Images People rally against the partial federal government shutdown outside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 10, 2019, in Washington, D.C. (CNN) - As the partial government shutdown nears the one-month mark, there have been a number of public opinion polls examining how the public feels about the shutdown, which was sparked by a funding standoff over President Donald Trump's proposal for a new wall along the border with Mexico. Six high-quality polls have been released this week touching on Trump, the shutdown, the Democrats in Congress and the wall. Most confirmed what we already knew from before the shutdown started: Opposition to a border wall is widespread and deep. But beyond that general opposition, the new polls offer some consistent results, including: Blame, in the public's mind, rests largely at the White House Many object to the shutdown, especially as a tactic to build the wall, Few see a wall as an effective way to combat undocumented immigration. About half of Americans (51%) said it would be unacceptable if the only way to end the shutdown was to pass a bill that includes Trump's requested funding for the border wall, according to a Pew Research Center poll released on Wednesday. On the other side, 29% said it would be unacceptable for the only end to the shutdown to come via a bill that does not include the president's requested funding for the wall. Multiple other polls show similar sentiments, including a Quinnipiac Universityfinding that 61% of voters would support a bill funding new border security measures without funding a wall, including 36% of Republicans, 78% of Democrats and two-thirds of independents. Seven-in-ten Americans said that shutting down the federal government in order to reach an agreement on government policy is a bad strategy and only 22% thought it was a good strategy, according to a PBS NewsHour/Marist poll. So, Americans oppose the strategy of shutting down the government, but is that because of the wall itself? Or the government? Probably both. Support for the wall is still low, at around four-in-ten, across all the polls (40% support in Pew, 43% in Quinnipiac, 39% in CNN/SSRS and 42% in ABC/Washington Post). Further, the Pew survey found that only about a third of Americans (34%) said that expanding the wall would lead to a major reduction in illegal immigration to the US and, according to Quinnipiac's poll, 43% of voters feel a wall is an effective way to protect the border. Both polls found sharp partisan divides on the matter: In the Pew study, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents said it would reduce illegal immigration vs. just 7% among Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, and Quinnipiac's results show 87% of Republicans consider the wall effective protection for the border, while 95% of Democrats say it is not. It's becoming clear that the shutdown is an issue for American's perceptions of the government. In a Gallup poll released Wednesday, the number who cited the government as the most important problem facing the country today went up from 19% in December to 29% in January. But even this is driven by partisanship. In the Pew poll, 79% of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents say the government shutdown is a "very serious" problem for the country, just 35% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents feel the same. Majorities disapprove of the way Trump (61%), Republicans in Congress (60%) and Democrats in Congress (53%) are handling negotiations over the shutdown, according to Pew Research. And most Americans are blaming Trump for the shutdown. In each of four polls that asked respondents to place blame, majorities said that lies with the President, while about a third in each cited Democrats in Congress as primarily responsible. The President's overall approval has definitely taken a hit, too. Not all polls showed a substantial downturn from where he was in December to where he is now, but taken together there is clear downward movement in his ratings. One of his biggest losses has been among white Americans without college degrees, an important base for Trump. In the new polls, four surveys conducted among all adults found approval ratings below 40%. Back in December, before the shutdown began, polls conducted using the same methodology found a wider range of approval ratings, including several over 40%. Each of those findings on their own wouldn't amount to much, but the consensus across polls suggests real movement in the public opinion. Copyright 2019 by CNN NewSource. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. https://www.local10.com/news/politics/polls-agree-americans-dont-like-shutdown-blame-trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 trump deal making... take someone's cake. later when you want the ice cream too, tell the cake owners they can have a very small piece of the cake, if they give up the ice cream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Good. They should reject it. Trump only pretends to gives a shit about dreamers when he can make political points off of them. Fucking psychopath. Basic human trafficking without the sex. Pretty disgusting using human beings as bargaining chips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 1 minute ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Good. They should reject it. Trump only pretends to gives a shit about dreamers when he can make political points off of them. Fucking psychopath. Basic human trafficking without the sex. Pretty disgusting using human beings as bargaining chips. yep. open the gov and then bargain. quit using these people lives as pawns. how the repukes can sit back and allow this is mind boggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Good. They should reject it. Trump only pretends to gives a shit about dreamers when he can make political points off of them. Fucking psychopath. Basic human trafficking without the sex. Pretty disgusting using human beings as bargaining chips. It’s quite the opposite. Dems showed how they feels about dreamers by refusing to compromise. It was a slap in the fact to the poor children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Rod Johnson said: It’s quite the opposite. Dems showed how they feels about dreamers by refusing to compromise. It was a slap in the fact to the poor children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Snoslinger said: The polls agree with me. Trump has stolen a huge portion of Latino support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Temporary? lol fuck Trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, Mainecat said: Temporary? lol fuck Trump Fuck him yourself you pussy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said: The polls agree with me. Trump has stolen a huge portion of Latino support All from the same poll. Trump is fucked. 50 percent of Latinos support the job Trump is doing, a significant jump from the 31 percent who had the same answer in a December poll. Trump's support among whites dropped from 50 percent to 40 percent, while his support among African-Americans fell from 19 percent to 11 percent. Overall, Trump's approval in the most recent poll is 39 percent, down from 42 percent in the previous poll. Read Newsmax: Marist Poll: Trump's Latino Support Jumps 19 Points Urgent: Do you approve of Pres. Trump’s job performance? Vote Here Now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Just now, ActionfigureJoe said: All from the same poll. Trump is fucked. 50 percent of Latinos support the job Trump is doing, a significant jump from the 31 percent who had the same answer in a December poll. Trump's support among whites dropped from 50 percent to 40 percent, while his support among African-Americans fell from 19 percent to 11 percent. Overall, Trump's approval in the most recent poll is 39 percent, down from 42 percent in the previous poll. Read Newsmax: Marist Poll: Trump's Latino Support Jumps 19 Points Urgent: Do you approve of Pres. Trump’s job performance? Vote Here Now! And he will get that support back after he wins this shut down, plus keep the majority of the Latino vote. He will win by greater margins next election Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3600 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Trump has once again boxed the Dems into looking like the uncompromising party in the negotiations. He routinely invites them back to the table, keeps extending the Olive Branch, offers concessions. He has a list of steps he's taken, they can only say no wall funding. Where do they counter from here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, F3600 said: Trump has once again boxed the Dems into looking like the uncompromising party in the negotiations. He routinely invites them back to the table, keeps extending the Olive Branch, offers concessions. He has a list of steps he's taken, they can only say no wall funding. Where do they counter from here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Dems have lost the Latino vote. They’re fucked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted January 21, 2019 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted January 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, F3600 said: Trump has once again boxed the Dems into looking like the uncompromising party in the negotiations. He routinely invites them back to the table, keeps extending the Olive Branch, offers concessions. He has a list of steps he's taken, they can only say no wall funding. Where do they counter from here? How many bills has she House passed rmk reopen the government? You’re a fucking faux noise zombie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 32 minutes ago, F3600 said: Trump has once again boxed the Dems into looking like the uncompromising party in the negotiations. He routinely invites them back to the table, keeps extending the Olive Branch, offers concessions. He has a list of steps he's taken, they can only say no wall funding. Where do they counter from here? Dems are taking a full on Trump "money shot" here. There is no denying that. Only way Trump loses is gives in. DACA supporters will start to turn on Pelosi and Cryin' Schumer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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