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WASHINGTON (AP) -- War crimes investigators collecting evidence of the Islamic State group's elaborate operation to kidnap thousands of women as sex slaves say they have a case to try IS leaders with crimes against humanity but cannot get the global backing to bring current detainees before an international tribunal.

Two years after the IS onslaught in northern Iraq, the investigators, as well as U.S. diplomats, say the Obama administration has done little to pursue prosecution of the crimes that Secretary of State John Kerry has called genocide. Current and former State Department officials say that an attempt in late 2014 to have a legal finding of genocide was blocked by the Defense Department, setting back efforts to prosecute IS members suspected of committing war crimes.

"The West looks to the United States for leadership in the Middle East, and the focus of this administration has been elsewhere - in every respect," Bill Wiley, the head of the independent investigative group, the Commission for International Justice and Accountability, told The Associated Press.

Officials in Washington say that the Defense Department and ultimately the administration were concerned that court trials would distract from the military campaign. But the diplomats say that justice is essential in a region whose religious minorities have been terrorized. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the issue.

The U.S. has no legal obligation to take on the genocide of the Yazidis, but President Barack Obama has said that "preventing mass atrocities and genocide is a core national security interest and a core moral responsibility of the United States of America."

Stephen Rapp, who stepped down as the administration's ambassador at large for war crimes last year, says the administration should have moved early to help secure evidence of IS atrocities and push for the creation of special Iraqi courts to try war crimes.

"The priority for the U.S. government is to win the war against the Islamic State and destroy them," Rapp said. "It's been profoundly disappointing, because the idea of accountability has been such a low priority."

Rapp is now the chairman of the advisory board of the commission, whose investigators in Iraq work with the Kurdish regional government to formally document the IS group's crimes, including those against the Yazidi minority group. They have built a case implicating the entire IS command structure in a plot to kidnap Yazidi women and girls and establish a sex-slave market.

The plan was executed by an organized bureaucracy at every step along the way, from the temporary sorting facilities - including a prison, schools and a curtained ballroom where the Yazidis were divided by age and willingness to convert to Islam - to the waiting buses that would haul them by the dozens across the border to Raqqa. The Islamic State group's Shariah courts soon stepped in, to settle contract disputes and ensure that its finance hierarchy got its cut of the sex slaves proceeds.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ISLAMIC_STATE_WAR_CRIMES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-24-05-08-11

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2 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

yeah,we start everything.:flush:

Nope. But if we don't want to repeat them and to have credibility on the world stage, we have to own our fuck ups.

There is simply no denying that our interference has directly lead to the formation of Isis and similar terrorist groups.

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14 minutes ago, Kivalo said:

Nope. But if we don't want to repeat them and to have credibility on the world stage, we have to own our fuck ups.

There is simply no denying that our interference has directly lead to the formation of Isis and similar terrorist groups.

those fucks have been terrorizing each other forever...sure we prolly have provoked them to terrorize us..game on now motherfuckers...well as soon as trump gets in anyways...more likely hillary would attack them before trump though...she can be a real bitch i hear.:lol:

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24 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

yeah,we start everything.:flush:

5 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

those fucks have been terrorizing each other forever...sure we prolly have provoked them to terrorize us..game on now motherfuckers...well as soon as trump gets in anyways...more likely hillary would attack them before trump though...she can be a real bitch i hear.:lol:

 

You seem conflicted. :lol:

 

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43 minutes ago, Mileage Psycho said:

The ISIS caliphate is in tatters, the operation to take Mosul is imminent, we are getting it done with advisers and air power while the Arab fights the Arab on the ground :thumb:

 

I hope so.  But our "advisors" are mostly ground troops.  And quite a few are there.  I have ZERO faith in "Arabs fighting Arabs".  :gfight:They are without a doubt the most cowardly of any fighting force I've ever seen.  Terror and propaganda...that's their thing.  Cowards.  Although, the Saudis are making some nice headway with thier own little Spec Ops forces.  Guess who is training them?  :wall:

34 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

yeah,we start everything.:flush:

Well, I wouldn't agree to that.  But we sure do have our fucking nose in places they don't need to be.....A LOT.

8 minutes ago, Capt.Storm said:

it's complicated.:lol:

:lol:

6 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said:

Americans are blamed when they do nothing as well.  Its a no win situation.

It's less of a loss if we just take the blame to do nothing.  I'm with that.  :thumb:

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11 hours ago, Snake said:

WASHINGTON (AP) -- War crimes investigators collecting evidence of the Islamic State group's elaborate operation to kidnap thousands of women as sex slaves say they have a case to try IS leaders with crimes against humanity but cannot get the global backing to bring current detainees before an international tribunal.

Two years after the IS onslaught in northern Iraq, the investigators, as well as U.S. diplomats, say the Obama administration has done little to pursue prosecution of the crimes that Secretary of State John Kerry has called genocide. Current and former State Department officials say that an attempt in late 2014 to have a legal finding of genocide was blocked by the Defense Department, setting back efforts to prosecute IS members suspected of committing war crimes.

"The West looks to the United States for leadership in the Middle East, and the focus of this administration has been elsewhere - in every respect," Bill Wiley, the head of the independent investigative group, the Commission for International Justice and Accountability, told The Associated Press.

Officials in Washington say that the Defense Department and ultimately the administration were concerned that court trials would distract from the military campaign. But the diplomats say that justice is essential in a region whose religious minorities have been terrorized. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the issue.

The U.S. has no legal obligation to take on the genocide of the Yazidis, but President Barack Obama has said that "preventing mass atrocities and genocide is a core national security interest and a core moral responsibility of the United States of America."

Stephen Rapp, who stepped down as the administration's ambassador at large for war crimes last year, says the administration should have moved early to help secure evidence of IS atrocities and push for the creation of special Iraqi courts to try war crimes.

"The priority for the U.S. government is to win the war against the Islamic State and destroy them," Rapp said. "It's been profoundly disappointing, because the idea of accountability has been such a low priority."

Rapp is now the chairman of the advisory board of the commission, whose investigators in Iraq work with the Kurdish regional government to formally document the IS group's crimes, including those against the Yazidi minority group. They have built a case implicating the entire IS command structure in a plot to kidnap Yazidi women and girls and establish a sex-slave market.

The plan was executed by an organized bureaucracy at every step along the way, from the temporary sorting facilities - including a prison, schools and a curtained ballroom where the Yazidis were divided by age and willingness to convert to Islam - to the waiting buses that would haul them by the dozens across the border to Raqqa. The Islamic State group's Shariah courts soon stepped in, to settle contract disputes and ensure that its finance hierarchy got its cut of the sex slaves proceeds.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ISLAMIC_STATE_WAR_CRIMES?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-09-24-05-08-11

Hey Snake, I sincerely hope you've been well, but I just wanna say you're still a conservative dumbass. :bc:

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6 hours ago, Wildboer said:

Hey Snake, I sincerely hope you've been well, but I just wanna say you're still a conservative dumbass. :bc:

Better than a snivelling little know nothing ignoramus. :finger: 

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