Capt.Storm Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 so if labor is only 4-7% of the price of a car..why are they going there then...taxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just now, Capt.Storm said: so if labor is only 4-7% of the price of a car..why are they going there then...taxes? Taxes, labour cost, regulations, everything is cheaper because it isn't a level playing field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just now, Momorider said: Taxes, labour cost, regulations, everything is cheaper because it isn't a level playing field yeah..but its a global economy now so can you blame them for taking advantage of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 funny most of you guys don'r care that apple does the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 7 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Protectionism does not work. free trade does not work 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just now, Capt.Storm said: funny most of you guys don'r care that apple does the same thing. Try and buy a smart phone made in the US 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just now, Momorider said: Try and buy a smart phone made in the US try and buy a car made in the Us in maybe 15-20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just now, Capt.Storm said: try and buy a car made in the Us in maybe 15-20 years. If trump wins they all will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just now, Momorider said: If trump wins they all will be trump will win..then we shall see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, f7ben said: free trade does not work The US needs to stand on its own and compete against the rest of the world in an open free market. It would be far worse if the rest of the world decided to no longer buy American. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 2 minutes ago, Momorider said: If trump wins they all will be Do you really believe that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: The US needs to stand on its own and compete against the rest of the world in an open free market. It would be far worse if the rest of the world decided to no longer buy American. if you look at the world as one big country i suppose you are right. Edited September 14, 2016 by Capt.Storm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boered Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: free trade does not work It does for him because he sells from Canada to the US market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Do you really believe that? No but tariffs will hurt and more will be Edited September 14, 2016 by Momorider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boered Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Capt.Storm said: if you look at the world as one big country i suppose you are right. As soon as these shit hole countries we allow to export to us without tariffs pay properly and have the same high standards of environmental protection as we do I will support free trade. Until then, fuck them and the companies that offshore our jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Boered said: It does for him because he sells from Canada to the US market. No I sell all over, but the US is the biggest component, I have to compete globally. Funny how the global company reps do not have the protectionist attitude. Do think someone should buy a component twice the cost with half the reliability just cause its made in the USA. Regardless of where an operation is most components come from global sources, that is just the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 minute ago, Boered said: As soon as these shit hole countries we allow to export to us without tariffs pay properly and have the same high standards of environmental protection as we do I will support free trade. Until then, fuck them and the companies that offshore our jobs. just look at those countries as states with diff rules...that's what i have been trying to do to try and figure out how our leaders here are thinking...i dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 5 minutes ago, Momorider said: No but tariffs will hurt and and more will be How is that working for Brazil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boered Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: No I sell all over, but the US is the biggest component, I have to compete globally. Funny how the global company reps do not have the protectionist attitude. Do think someone should buy a component twice the cost with half the reliability just cause its made in the USA. Regardless of where an operation is most components come from global sources, that is just the way it is. Buy what you want from where you want. But, tariffs should be imposed on goods from countries with slave labour and no regulations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 6 minutes ago, Boered said: As soon as these shit hole countries we allow to export to us without tariffs pay properly and have the same high standards of environmental protection as we do I will support free trade. Until then, fuck them and the companies that offshore our jobs. amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Storm Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 i used to think all the bs we pulled in the mid east was all over the oil..anymore i don't know bout that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted September 14, 2016 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 14, 2016 Simple cure. Make tax rates zero for anything manufactured here. Companies won't be able to bring things back fast enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 4 minutes ago, Boered said: Buy what you want from where you want. But, tariffs should be imposed on goods from countries with slave labour and no regulations. I don't have an issue with that at all, I agree with it actually, but that is not what America need to be concerned about. I have done work in many countries and I can tell you some of them are royalling kicking ass with production efficiency regardless of wages and that is something not to be taken for granted or ignored. It has little to do with wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 8 minutes ago, Highmark said: Simple cure. Make tax rates zero for anything manufactured here. Companies won't be able to bring things back fast enough. I personally think they are too high right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: I'm not sure this really surprises any American anymore. Just another 2-3k jobs moved out of the country...no bid deal. Free trade man, it's good for America. It means more jobs, and not the jobs that Americans don't want to do... I hope Trump builds a wall around Ford... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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