F3600 Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Yesterday on the radio was an interview with Gerald Posner (Secrets of the Kingdom). One interesting take he had was that besides how common stuff like this is all over the world, is that it's surprising Turkey did not take this recording to the Saudi's and use it as leverage for existing negotiations and concessions. That there is a reason Turkey and others want to put the new Prince under pressure. I tend to agree, after all, killing one of your own citizens in your own sovereign land isn't out of the norm for any of these governments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, F3600 said: Yesterday on the radio was an interview with Gerald Posner (Secrets of the Kingdom). One interesting take he had was that besides how common stuff like this is all over the world, is that it's surprising Turkey did not take this recording to the Saudi's and use it as leverage for existing negotiations and concessions. That there is a reason Turkey and others want to put the new Prince under pressure. I tend to agree, after all, killing one of your own citizens in your own sovereign land isn't out of the norm for any of these governments. That is not what occurred here. It was a gruesome murder in a consulate of a NATO country Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 18, 2018 People are more outraged about this than the 300,000+ Iraqi's that Saddam killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just now, Highmark said: People are more outraged about this than the 300,000+ Iraqi's that Saddam killed. Its cause the 1 million we killed after kind of over shadowed saddam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, f7ben said: Its cause the 1 million we killed after kind of over shadowed saddam Try again. Jesus you people are gullible. This is the Gulf war. Doesn't come close to 50K. Come on Ben you really believe we killed almost 3% of the population? Iraq war added another 100-150K and not all were at the hands of the US. https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/gulf/appendix/death.html How many Iraqis died? Independent analysts generally agree the Iraqi death toll was well below initial post-war estimates. In the immediate aftermath of the war, these estimates ranged as high as 100,000 Iraqi troops killed and 300,000 wounded. According to "Gulf War Air Power Survey" by Thomas A. Keaney and Eliot A. Cohen, (a report commissioned by the U.S. Air Force; 1993-ISBN 0-16-041950-6), there were an estimated 10-12,000 Iraqi combat deaths in the air campaign and as many as 10,000 casualties in the ground war. This analysis is based on enemy prisoner of war reports. The Iraqi government says 2,300 civilians died during the air campaign. One infamous incident during the war highlighted the question of large-scale Iraqi combat deaths. This was the `bulldozer assault' in which two brigades from the U.S. Army's 1st Infantry Division (Mechanized)--The Big Red One--used plows mounted on tanks and combat earthmovers to bury Iraqi soldiers defending the fortified "Saddam Line." While approximately 2,000 of the troops surrendered, escaping burial, one newspaper story reported that the U.S. commanders estimated thousands of Iraqi soldiers had been buried alive during the two-day assault February 24-25, 1991. However, like all other troop estimates made during the war, the estimated 8,000 Iraqi defenders was probably greatly inflated. While one commander thought the numbers might have been in the thousands, another reported his brigade buried between 80 and 250 Iraqis. After the war, the Iraqi government found 44 bodies. Edited October 18, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted October 18, 2018 Gold Member Share Posted October 18, 2018 If Canada or any other country wants to move on this I say we sell them weapons if they need them. That should be the US involvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Your faggot ass bootlicking propaganda was shot down already retard. Go back to Storm Front with the rest of the people like you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 18, 2018 I find it utterly amazing so called intelligent people can't look at things rationally. Simply fucking amazing falling for the propaganda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Just now, Highmark said: I find it utterly amazing so called intelligent people can't look at things rationally. Simply fucking amazing falling for the propaganda. I find it amusingly entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Zambroski said: I find it amusingly entertaining. I do too especially the ones that act so superior and "intelligent." I think some on here have claimed 3 million Iraqi's killed. Its fucking insane that's almost 10% of the population. To put it in perspective Russia lost 13.7% of its population in WW2. Edited October 18, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Highmark said: I do too especially the ones that act so superior and "intelligent." I think some on here have claimed 3 million Iraqi's killed. Its fucking insane that's almost 10% of the population. To put it in perspective Russia lost 13% of its population in WW2. Its close to 1 million....your have to be fucking braindead to believe the US government Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 Saudis are killing people in yemen as we speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, f7ben said: Its close to 1 million....your have to be fucking braindead to believe the US government Dude, stop....seriously just stop. Almost 145,000 Iraqi's were not killed per month in the 7 month conflict. Jesus fuck Ben use your brain. Not even Wiki or other rational liberal sites say that. Iraqi:25,000–50,000 killed[20]75,000+ wounded[7] 80,000 captured[20]3,300 tanks destroyed[20]2,100 APCs destroyed[20]2,200 Artillery Pieces destroyed[20]110 Aircraft destroyed[18]137 Aircraft escaped to Iran[18]19 ships sunk, 6 damaged[18] http://www.comw.org/pda/0310rm8ap2.html Edited October 18, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Highmark said: Dude, stop....seriously just stop. Almost 145,000 Iraqi's were not killed per month in the 7 month conflict. Jesus fuck Ben use your brain. Not even Wiki or other rational liberal sites say that. Iraqi:25,000–50,000 killed[20]75,000+ wounded[7] 80,000 captured[20]3,300 tanks destroyed[20]2,100 APCs destroyed[20]2,200 Artillery Pieces destroyed[20]110 Aircraft destroyed[18]137 Aircraft escaped to Iran[18]19 ships sunk, 6 damaged[18] http://www.comw.org/pda/0310rm8ap2.html That has absolutely nothing to do with what happened in turkey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Highmark said: People are more outraged about this than the 300,000+ Iraqi's that Saddam killed. Obviously not or the US would be spending a trillion dollars bombing the fuck out of the Saudi's. Which really should have been the first stop before Afghanistan being as 16 of the hijackers were Saudi's . But then again you'd rather kill innocent civilians and lose 1,000's of soldiers than pay $6.00 per gallon. Freeeeedumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted October 18, 2018 Author Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Highmark said: I find it utterly amazing so called intelligent people can't look at things rationally. Simply fucking amazing falling for the propaganda. You do it everyday here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted October 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 18, 2018 Late lunch break huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Jimmy Snacks Posted October 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 18, 2018 3 hours ago, Highmark said: I find it utterly amazing so called intelligent people can't look at things rationally. Simply fucking amazing falling for the propaganda. 3 hours ago, Zambroski said: I find it amusingly entertaining. The fact that these two feebs agree tells you everything you need to know....pure idiocy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Nazipigdog said: Saudis are killing people in yemen as we speak. What a coincidence, so isn't Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 26 minutes ago, steve from amherst said: What a coincidence, so isn't Iran. Iran is killing ISIS, Al Nusra and Al Qaeda in Syria while Israel is attacking Iran in Syria trying to protect Al Qaeda, ISIS and Al Nusra... Our good friends! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted October 18, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 18, 2018 Makes Syria seem almost easy to follow along. In 2015, Saudi Arabia formed a coalition of Arab states to defeat the Houthis in Yemen. The coalition includes Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Sudan and Senegal. Several of these countries have sent troops to fight on the ground in Yemen, while others have only carried out air attacks. The US government regularly launches air attacks on al-Qaeda and Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL, also known as ISIS) targets in Yemen, and recently admitted to having deployed a small number of troops on the ground. The US, along with other western powers such as the UK and France, has also supplied the Saudi-led coalition with weapons and intelligence. Iran has denied arming the Houthi rebels, but the US military said it intercepted arms shipments from Iran to Yemen this March, claiming it was the third time in two months that this had occurred. Iranian officials have also suggested they may send military advisers to support the Houthis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 6 hours ago, Jimmy Snacks said: The fact that these two feebs agree tells you everything you need to know....pure idiocy. “We are gonna hate on Ametica for reasons we made up!!!!!!!” Good luck with all that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted October 19, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted October 19, 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal Rosenberg Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 11 hours ago, Highmark said: I find it utterly amazing so called intelligent people can't look at things rationally. Simply fucking amazing falling for the propaganda. Exactly . I mean just look at how many people supported that whole fiasco and still defend it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revkevsdi Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Highmark said: Squirrel!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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