Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 11, 2018 Gold Member Share Posted September 11, 2018 Should just wipe this piece of shit program out! https://www.ssa.gov/planners/maxtax.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmo Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Fuck trump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 Trump is a turd. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 11, 2018 Share Posted September 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Trump is a turd. Neal Much much better than Obama or Bush so far.....which isn't saying anything really positive I guess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 hours ago, BOHICA said: Should just wipe this piece of shit program out! https://www.ssa.gov/planners/maxtax.html so now you are apposed to sticking it to the rich ? way I see it is you pay SS on all the money you make in a yr ? no longer cap at your first 125k am I for more tax ? no not at all but I am still better off with this and the tax cuts than I was before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganMarcus Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 hours ago, f7ben said: Much much better than Obama or Bush so far.....which isn't saying anything really positive I guess true, and better than what we would have had with the alternative....BUT, still a person that has no business in the white house. Over 300 million people and these three were the best we could find in past 17 years. it would seem, honest intelligent leaders are simply not interested in politics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 3 hours ago, f7ben said: Much much better than Obama or Bush so far.....which isn't saying anything really positive I guess Not even close to either one, he is far more damaging to our country than Bush or Obama. Neal 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Not even close to either one, he is far more damaging to our country than Bush or Obama. Neal yeah it is showing all around you . just look at all the people on snap . oh wait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Not even close to either one, he is far more damaging to our country than Bush or Obama. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 12, 2018 Author Gold Member Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ez ryder said: so now you are apposed to sticking it to the rich ? way I see it is you pay SS on all the money you make in a yr ? no longer cap at your first 125k am I for more tax ? no not at all but I am still better off with this and the tax cuts than I was before So an employee puts in 6.2% of pay a year in social security.... Their employer puts in 6.2% in as well.... on a $128400 you have $15921 going in to SS a year. your benefit for that if you retire at SS retirement age, 67 years old, is a few bucks over 3000 a month if you made 128,400 every year until retirement.... Imagine somebody putting that much extra coin into their own 401k every year for 30, 40, 50 years. If you decide to retire early according to SS admin and retire at 62 your benefit is around 2k a month for the $15 plus k going in for 30 plus years. So kindly fuck off on your belief in a horrible government program. Edited September 12, 2018 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVT MXZ XRS Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 1 hour ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Not even close to either one, he is far more damaging to our country than Bush or Obama. Neal What kind of drugs are you on? 7 minutes ago, BOHICA said: So an employee puts in 6.2% of pay a year in social security.... Their employer puts in 6.2% in as well.... on a $128400 you have $15921 going in to SS a year. your benefit for that if you retire at SS retirement age, 67 years old, is a few bucks over 3000 a month if you made 128,400 every year until retirement.... Imagine somebody putting that much extra coin into their own 401k every year for 30, 40, 50 years. If you decide to retire early according to SS admin and retire at 62 your benefit is around 2k a month for the $15 plus k going in for 30 plus years. So kindly fuck off on your belief in a horrible government program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 25 minutes ago, BOHICA said: So an employee puts in 6.2% of pay a year in social security.... Their employer puts in 6.2% in as well.... on a $128400 you have $15921 going in to SS a year. your benefit for that if you retire at SS retirement age, 67 years old, is a few bucks over 3000 a month if you made 128,400 every year until retirement.... Imagine somebody putting that much extra coin into their own 401k every year for 30, 40, 50 years. If you decide to retire early according to SS admin and retire at 62 your benefit is around 2k a month for the $15 plus k going in for 30 plus years. So kindly fuck off on your belief in a horrible government program. True, you will never collect enough social security to equal what you put into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganMarcus Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 SS is there for the working poor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hwytohell Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 S.S. was started when coal was king . When a coal miner died in the mine , his family was fucked. Fast forward today , every scum sucking politician has had his hands in the till , since the system started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted September 12, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted September 12, 2018 7 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Not even close to either one, he is far more damaging to our country than Bush or Obama. Neal 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 14 hours ago, BOHICA said: So an employee puts in 6.2% of pay a year in social security.... Their employer puts in 6.2% in as well.... on a $128400 you have $15921 going in to SS a year. your benefit for that if you retire at SS retirement age, 67 years old, is a few bucks over 3000 a month if you made 128,400 every year until retirement.... Imagine somebody putting that much extra coin into their own 401k every year for 30, 40, 50 years. If you decide to retire early according to SS admin and retire at 62 your benefit is around 2k a month for the $15 plus k going in for 30 plus years. So kindly fuck off on your belief in a horrible government program. people won't put there own money in a,401k . and we know one way or a other we the people will pay the ill for them . I have no faith in as. that is why I am a corporation who only pays him self about 12 grand a yr . going any other rout is a chump game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 12, 2018 Author Gold Member Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, Ez ryder said: people won't put there own money in a,401k . and we know one way or a other we the people will pay the ill for them . I have no faith in as. that is why I am a corporation who only pays him self about 12 grand a yr . going any other rout is a chump game. Easy... mandate it that people put it in a 401k... that way people that contribute actually get what they put in. I don’t have a single guy on my crew, 10 guys that don't max out 401 ($18500) contributions, they all max it out..... as well as they all make enough to max social security every year. All would love to have almost $16k extra that goes into SS and put into their 401’s.... Edited September 13, 2018 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anler Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 11 hours ago, MichiganMarcus said: SS is there for the working poor You would be surprised how many boomers didnt save enough or at all for retirement. Fucking boomers are a scourge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, BOHICA said: Easy... mandate it that people put it in a 401k... that way people that contribute actually get what they put in. I don’t have a single guy on my crew...10 guys that max out 401 ($18500) contributions as well as make enough to max social security. All would love to to have almost $16k extra that goes into SS and put into their 401’s.... they won't you know it I know it .and imho that is illegal. just like saying you must buy health insurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Member BOHICA Posted September 12, 2018 Author Gold Member Share Posted September 12, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: they won't you know it I know it .and imho that is illegal. just like saying you must buy health insurance Oh they all voluntary max there 401’s out now. If they were allowed to put the SS contributions into a 401 they would in a heart beat! Edited September 12, 2018 by BOHICA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 16 hours ago, Rod Johnson said: Neals caught in his own vortex of stupidity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, DAVE said: Neals caught in his own vortex of stupidity. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redheaded Stepchild Posted September 12, 2018 Share Posted September 12, 2018 13 hours ago, hwytohell said: S.S. was started when coal was king . When a coal miner died in the mine , his family was fucked. Fast forward today , every scum sucking politician has had his hands in the till , since the system started. So that's why Trump gives his salary to a charity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 6 hours ago, DAVE said: Neals caught in his own vortex of stupidity. Not at all, if you, Buttcoxes, and Zams are all on the same side I know I'm good opposing it. Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 13, 2018 Share Posted September 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said: Not at all, if you, Buttcoxes, and Zams are all on the same side I know I'm good opposing it. Neal Buttcoxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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