Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted August 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 30, 2018 Amid mounting acrimony with NATO, Russia's military has announced plans to hold its "biggest exercises since 1981." The country's defense ministry says the massive exercise next month will involve some 300,000 Russian troops, more than 1,000 aircraft and the participation of some Chinese and Mongolian military units. The military drills, known as Vostok-2018 or East-2018, are expected to commence Sept. 11 and last five days near Russia's eastern border. The vast scale nearly doubles another recent Vostok exercise, which Russia held just months after its 2014 annexation of Crimea — and which at the time, Russian President Vladimir Putin had hailed as "the largest exercises of this kind that we have ever held." Speaking with Russian media on Tuesday, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu likened September's upcoming military exercise to an event buried much further in the past — back to an era when the Cold War was flaring hot. "In some ways, they resemble the Zapad-81 drills," Shoigu said, referring to the West-81 exercise that the Soviet Union held not long after President Ronald Reagan's first inauguration. "But in other ways," he added, "they are, perhaps, even larger." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Skidooski Posted August 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 30, 2018 @Mainecat you're slipping! How did you not have this posted already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted August 30, 2018 Author Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 30, 2018 58 minutes ago, Skidooski said: @Mainecat you're slipping! How did you not have this posted already? Blame it on Du Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 I saw it yesterday but remembered Trump said the Russian Commies are our best friends. They are just playing. Every American is safe from NK and Russia. Not to worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted August 30, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 30, 2018 Oh no not the Mongolian's. Surrender now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 hours ago, steve from amherst said: Amid mounting acrimony with NATO, Russia's military has announced plans to hold its "biggest exercises since 1981." The country's defense ministry says the massive exercise next month will involve some 300,000 Russian troops, more than 1,000 aircraft and the participation of some Chinese and Mongolian military units. The military drills, known as Vostok-2018 or East-2018, are expected to commence Sept. 11 and last five days near Russia's eastern border. The vast scale nearly doubles another recent Vostok exercise, which Russia held just months after its 2014 annexation of Crimea — and which at the time, Russian President Vladimir Putin had hailed as "the largest exercises of this kind that we have ever held." Speaking with Russian media on Tuesday, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu likened September's upcoming military exercise to an event buried much further in the past — back to an era when the Cold War was flaring hot. "In some ways, they resemble the Zapad-81 drills," Shoigu said, referring to the West-81 exercise that the Soviet Union held not long after President Ronald Reagan's first inauguration. "But in other ways," he added, "they are, perhaps, even larger." I read several articles about this yesterday. Should be interesting. I hope we can get updates and shit about it. These big "games" are awesome! 2 hours ago, Mainecat said: I saw it yesterday but remembered Trump said the Russian Commies are our best friends. They are just playing. Every American is safe from NK and Russia. Not to worry. Fear. It's fear you are feeling. @Mileage Psycho 1 minute ago, Highmark said: Oh no not the Mongolian's. Surrender now. See, told you! R's are just scared to death! R's are fear mongering 'fraidy cats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 People don’t realize how out of date the Russian military really is. They put their best foot forward and have a couple units with cutting edge equipment, but the vast majority barely get out of the mid 80s with their tech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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frenchy Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Mainecat said: I saw it yesterday but remembered Trump said the Russian Commies are our best friends. They are just playing. Every American is safe from NK and Russia. Not to worry. Militarily speaking you are completely safe. You honestly think otherwise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: People don’t realize how out of date the Russian military really is. They put their best foot forward and have a couple units with cutting edge equipment, but the vast majority barely get out of the mid 80s with their tech. Putin has some major issues at home. His approval is in the toilet over retirement cuts to social programs. These war games are to prop up his face by reinforcing his image as the strong man. That may backfire on him politically. The Russian people see him increasing military spending while cutting social support systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 wgaf... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Snoslinger said: wgaf... yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Putin has some major issues at home. His approval is in the toilet over retirement cuts to social programs. These war games are to prop up his face by reinforcing his image as the strong man. That may backfire on him politically. The Russian people see him increasing military spending while cutting social support systems. dude..... nothing is going to backfire on him. between voter fraud, strong arming, accidental deaths etc he will remain in power as long as he wants. these are reasons why trump adores the man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: dude..... nothing is going to backfire on him. between voter fraud, strong arming, accidental deaths etc he will remain in power as long as he wants. these are reasons why trump adores the man. That is not necessary so. There’s an occasional changing of the guard at the kremlin. No one is immune to it. Putin has survived through his steadfast connections. A slip in his popularity among the people could spell a step down for him as some upcoming gangster type takes his job. He is the epitome of a ruthless gangster. But even Al Capone fell. Putin needs to watch his ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snoslinger Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: That is not necessary so. There’s an occasional changing of the guard at the kremlin. No one is immune to it. Putin has survived through his steadfast connections. A slip in his popularity among the people could spell a step down for him as some upcoming gangster type takes his job. He is the epitome of a ruthless gangster. But even Al Capone fell. Putin needs to watch his ass. i think it would have happened by now Edited August 30, 2018 by Snoslinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, Snoslinger said: i think it would have happened by now I kinda agree. He went through much more trying economic times when Obama was in. If he didn’t go down then, idk what would take him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Putin has something with Russia that is a major advantage over the US, overall Russian solidarity and approval. Wars tear our already divided country apart. It's a big reason why we can't "win". It's a fine, dividing line DC walks....and why Putin is a such a real danger to the DC establishment and not these other bullshit made up narratives. Russia can take advantage of knowing that any unprovoked war with them, will most likely lead to a massive "civil disruption" in our country. One DC knows will not be to their best interests. Bottom line...Putin is smarter than the DC establishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 hours ago, frenchy said: Militarily speaking you are completely safe. You honestly think otherwise? Nukes are not a threat? Thanks I feel safer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Zambroski said: Putin has something with Russia that is a major advantage over the US, overall Russian solidarity and approval. Wars tear our already divided country apart. It's a big reason why we can't "win". It's a fine, dividing line DC walks....and why Putin is a such a real danger to the DC establishment and not these other bullshit made up narratives. Russia can take advantage of knowing that any unprovoked war with them, will most likely lead to a massive "civil disruption" in our country. One DC knows will not be to their best interests. Bottom line...Putin is smarter than the DC establishment. Americans are more diverse than Russians in their thinking and ethnicity. It’s our strength. Our ability to create, invent, push to the limits of our abilities is far from a disadvantage. Look at the pathetic nature of the Russian economy, education system, and health care. It’s a sick and decayed system. Putin isn’t smarter than DC. He simply has a citizenship and culture that’s broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, Mainecat said: Nukes are not a threat? Thanks I feel safer Trump amplified the NK danger in order to play a fixer. There’s no solid proof that they have a nuke that can reach US shores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Americans are more diverse than Russians in their thinking and ethnicity. It’s our strength. Our ability to create, invent, push to the limits of our abilities is far from a disadvantage. Look at the pathetic nature of the Russian economy, education system, and health care. It’s a sick and decayed system. Putin isn’t smarter than DC. He simply has a citizenship and culture that’s broken. Nailed it. Stupid ass Zam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 28 minutes ago, xtralettucetomatoe580 said: Nailed it. Stupid ass Zam. No he didn’t you little twerp. I’ll address his post later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 40 minutes ago, ActionfigureJoe said: Trump amplified the NK danger in order to play a fixer. There’s no solid proof that they have a nuke that can reach US shores. Except the 500,000 Americans living in S. K. And the millions in Hawaii. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtralettucetomatoe580 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, Zambroski said: No he didn’t you little twerp. I’ll address his post later. Nope, wrong. You’re a dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainecat Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 Russian nukes... they are pointed our way....not sure why cause they are our friends..... https://www.businessinsider.com/likely-us-nuclear-targets-2017-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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