Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 4, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Highmark said: 7-8% down from 17% under Obama. Does anyone doubt for a second that 2.5-5% of the population simply won't work for whatever reason. http://news.gallup.com/poll/189068/bls-unemployment-seasonally-adjusted.aspx.aspx I'll remind you its one of your boys who started this thread to pump Obama. That is why 5 % unemployment is considered full employment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 5 hours ago, 1jkw said: How come nobody brings up, what's the REAL unemployment rate or look at the labor participation rate anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member steve from amherst Posted May 4, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 4, 2018 So what is the real number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Highmark said: 7-8% down from 17% under Obama. Does anyone doubt for a second that 2.5-5% of the population simply won't work for whatever reason. http://news.gallup.com/poll/189068/bls-unemployment-seasonally-adjusted.aspx.aspx I'll remind you its one of your boys who started this thread to pump Obama. You're full of shit, just like the goof below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 3 hours ago, SnowRider said: You tell us... @DriftBusta @Highmark .....Clown Posse brought it up for almost 8 years......what happened? Hey.. was I talking to you? No. So shut the fuck up unless you're spoken to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 4, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Hey.. was I talking to you? No. So shut the fuck up unless you're spoken to. @Highmark and Woolie......numbers that were fake are now real and numbers that mattered do not matter anymore .... You two are a couple dumbfucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Snake Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 5 hours ago, 1jkw said: How come nobody brings up, what's the REAL unemployment rate or look at the labor participation rate anymore? 3 hours ago, Highmark said: 7-8% down from 17% under Obama. Does anyone doubt for a second that 2.5-5% of the population simply won't work for whatever reason. http://news.gallup.com/poll/189068/bls-unemployment-seasonally-adjusted.aspx.aspx I'll remind you its one of your boys who started this thread to pump Obama. But... but... but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted May 4, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Snake said: But... but... but... The numbers that were fake are now real and the numbers that were real are now fake Makes sense to a hypocrite like you Edited May 4, 2018 by SnowRider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Snake said: But... but... but... No buts. The percentage of people are out of the workforce in April 2018 as in April 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Highmark said: I know I've seen some numbers. I don't have time right now to look it up. Hatred for my own species? You have no idea what type of person I am and how I treat my fellow man thru actions or giving. Sorry if my reality of the real world human nature interferes with your Utopian idea of mankind. There’s something you seem to overlook in your support of Walmart’s low wages. During the “50’s “60’s and “70’s there were ample opportunities for those that were less than capable. Those who had an excellent work ethic yet didn’t possess the IQ level to learn an advanced trade, skill, or profession. During those years wages were acceptable even for that type of individual. The distribution of varying levels of intelligence hasn’t changed. Those less capable haven’t gone away. Instead they’re now relegated to a lifetime of extremely low wages because of this new idea of seeing these folks as a commodity of the company rather than the company. Wages as a whole are primarily based on a person’s IQ. IQ is a fixed quotient. It doesn’t change via education or experience. I’m of the opinion that those that are less capable are in need of support by those that are more capable in society. Somehow that has disappeared in exchange for maximization of profit. Edited May 5, 2018 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 6 hours ago, motonoggin said: So you're a landlord? yes and have had contracts with public housing on and off for yrs . I have finely dumped my last city and will never go back no matter how bad the economy gets the people get worse and worse with less and less respect for the property's but what do you expect with less,and less self respect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 19 minutes ago, spin_dry said: There’s something you seem to overlook in your support of Walmart’s low wages. During the “50’s “60’s and “70’s there were ample opportunities for those that were less than capable. Those who had an excellent work ethic yet didn’t possess the IQ level to learn an advanced trade, skill, or profession. During those years wages were acceptable even for that type of individual. The distribution of varying levels of intelligence hasn’t changed. Those less capable haven’t gone away. Instead they’re now relegated to a lifetime of extremely low wages because of this new idea of seeing these folks as a commodity of the company rather than the company. Afterall, wages as a whole are distributed primarily based on a person’s IQ. IQ is a fixed quotient. It doesn’t change via education or experience. I’m of the opinion that those that are less capable are in need of support by the those more capable in society. Somehow that has disappeared in exchange for maximization of profit. bull shit still a ton of decent pay jobs for unskilled dull people . constuction laborers are pulling 15 to 25 all day sewer guys same money drain cleaners 15 to 20 grass cutters he'll some are pulling a ez 6 figures most painters are pulling 60pluse a yr a job at the fucking dump is over 6ok short list hundreds more but reality is just a lot more ez to sit back on the dole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin_dry Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Ez ryder said: bull shit still a ton of decent pay jobs for unskilled dull people . constuction laborers are pulling 15 to 25 all day sewer guys same money drain cleaners 15 to 20 grass cutters he'll some are pulling a ez 6 figures most painters are pulling 60pluse a yr a job at the fucking dump is over 6ok short list hundreds more but reality is just a lot more ez to sit back on the dole You couldn’t be more wrong. Every study has shown that since the 1970’s wages have remained relatively flat or even declined in the United States. Thats even when unemployment is low. Those that are hit the worst are people I’m referring too. A greater percentage of wealth is sliding to a smaller portion of individuals at the top. That is accelerating rapidly. Basically everything you say is extremely myopic and out of touch with what’s happening. Edited May 5, 2018 by spin_dry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Momorider Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 7 hours ago, motonoggin said: Yeah I'm sure you do. I suppose you are going to say you know otherwise arn't you NeoFascistHimmlerStoner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 5, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, SnowRider said: @Highmark and Woolie......numbers that were fake are now real and numbers that mattered do not matter anymore .... You two are a couple dumbfucks Dude do you ever look in the mirror and think, I should just kill myself. Don't fight it. Swallow a bunch of pills, cut your wrists, jump off a building. Do society a favor and take your ugly, liberal ass out of this world. Make it a better place. Edited May 5, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 5, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 5, 2018 16 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: You're full of shit, just like the goof below So my link is wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member Highmark Posted May 5, 2018 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 12 hours ago, spin_dry said: There’s something you seem to overlook in your support of Walmart’s low wages. During the “50’s “60’s and “70’s there were ample opportunities for those that were less than capable. Those who had an excellent work ethic yet didn’t possess the IQ level to learn an advanced trade, skill, or profession. During those years wages were acceptable even for that type of individual. The distribution of varying levels of intelligence hasn’t changed. Those less capable haven’t gone away. Instead they’re now relegated to a lifetime of extremely low wages because of this new idea of seeing these folks as a commodity of the company rather than the company. Wages as a whole are primarily based on a person’s IQ. IQ is a fixed quotient. It doesn’t change via education or experience. I’m of the opinion that those that are less capable are in need of support by those that are more capable in society. Somehow that has disappeared in exchange for maximization of profit. Jesus, I don't "support Walmarts low wages." What I support is free markets that set the wage. I said over and over and over again that Walmart COULD raise compensation and still be competitive but Amazon has made it clear they have strong competition. Again I love how you liberals like to claim support all the while degrading people and saying they aren't smart enough to earn a living wage. Fuck man get over yourself in judging what you think people are capable of. We are not talking about mentally challenged. What do you suggest a national IQ test that determines what someone's wage should be. What a liberal wet dream of affirmative action. Edited May 5, 2018 by Highmark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 16 hours ago, Mileage Psycho said: You're full of shit, just like the goof below ok you are a union contractor how many guys are on the bench in your local to pick from today ? yeah that is what I thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 On 5/4/2018 at 12:18 PM, 1jkw said: How come nobody brings up, what's the REAL unemployment rate or look at the labor participation rate anymore? Well, Slate had this to say in 2017... : In recent years, the headline unemployment rate has become a less useful yardstick for measuring the overall health of the labor market. Like all economic indicators, it has shortcomings, and those weaknesses have grown more problematic since the Great Recession. If an administration wanted to benchmark its economic performance by focusing on a single headline statistic, this might be a good time to pick a new one. The BLS even produces a data point that Trump himself might like: The employment-to-population ratio for adults between the ages of 25 and 54—or “prime-age EPOP.” It's great. Really terrific. Some even say it's the best labor market indicator out there. Believe me. http://www.slate.com/business/2018/05/the-unemployment-rate-is-historically-low-and-meaningless.html Well.... ok.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1jkw Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Snake said: Well, Slate had this to say in 2017... : In recent years, the headline unemployment rate has become a less useful yardstick for measuring the overall health of the labor market. Like all economic indicators, it has shortcomings, and those weaknesses have grown more problematic since the Great Recession. If an administration wanted to benchmark its economic performance by focusing on a single headline statistic, this might be a good time to pick a new one. The BLS even produces a data point that Trump himself might like: The employment-to-population ratio for adults between the ages of 25 and 54—or “prime-age EPOP.” It's great. Really terrific. Some even say it's the best labor market indicator out there. Believe me. http://www.slate.com/business/2018/05/the-unemployment-rate-is-historically-low-and-meaningless.html Well.... ok.... Thanks for proving my point. Now you want to select a certain group, age 25 to 54 not the REAL labor participation that is the same in April 2018 as it was in 2016. There is little doubt the economy is doing well, a much stronger world economy, a weaker dollar, huge government spending, corporate tax breaks, small middle class tax breaks all grease the wheels. Cut taxes, increase defense spending, and deregulate lending. What could possibly go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mileage Psycho Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 5 hours ago, Ez ryder said: ok you are a union contractor how many guys are on the bench in your local to pick from today ? yeah that is what I thought Same as there was 2 years ago at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambroski Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Without backreading all the deniers and whining...I’d like to say that 4%....this is just terrible news. Terrible. Armageddon!!!! Hey Dems....see you in 2024!!! Or, do you have a message yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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