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Of the 12 blue states that Hillary Clinton won by the largest percentage margins — Hawaii, California, Vermont, Massachusetts, Maryland, New York, Illinois, Washington, Rhode Island, New Jersey, Connecticut, and Delaware — all but three of them lost residents through domestic migration (excluding immigration) over the last 10 years.
In fact combined, all 12 Hillary Clinton states lost an average of 6 percent of their populations to net out-migration over the past decade. California and New York alone lost 3 million people in the past 10 years.

Now let’s contrast the Hillary Clinton states with the 12 states that had the largest percentage margin vote for Donald Trump. Every one of them, save Wyoming, was a net population gainer — West Virginia, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Idaho, South Dakota, Kentucky, Alabama, Arkansas, Tennessee, Nebraska and Kansas.

The move from blue to red states — almost 1,000 people every day — has been one of the greatest demographic stories in American history. If you go to states like Arizona, Florida, Tennessee and Texas these days, all you see is out of blue state license plates.

Pretty much the same pattern holds true for jobs. The job gains in the red states carried by the widest margins by Mr. Trump had about twice the job creation rate as the bluest states carried by Mrs. Clinton.

Hillary Clinton mentioned GDP numbers. While it is true that the blue states of the two coasts and several of the Midwestern states are richer than the redder states of the South and mountain regions over recent decades, she failed to mention the giant transfer of wealth from Clinton to Trump states.

IRS tax return data confirm that from 2006-2016 Hillary Clinton’s states lost $113.6 billion in combined wealth, whereas Donald Trump’s states gained $116.0 billion.
The Hillary Clinton states are in a slow bleed.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/25/no-hillary-its-the-red-states-that-are-dynamic/

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15 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

And yet we still have a system that subvers the will of the majority of citizens...

Neal.

You miss the point.  If the trends that Moe highlight continue, maybe even you and Ben will be happy someday.  It shows that the liberal paradises just don't work.  I live in CT and people are leaving in droves, thanks to 30 years of Democrats taxing everything that moves.

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Just now, DriftBusta said:

You miss the point.  If the trends that Moe highlight continue, maybe even you and Ben will be happy someday.  It shows that the liberal paradises just don't work.  I live in CT and people are leaving in droves, thanks to 30 years of Democrats taxing everything that moves.

Don't worry , your sales tax is only temporary , and will bring down property taxes.

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20 minutes ago, DriftBusta said:

You miss the point.  If the trends that Moe highlight continue, maybe even you and Ben will be happy someday.  It shows that the liberal paradises just don't work.  I live in CT and people are leaving in droves, thanks to 30 years of Democrats taxing everything that moves.

Yes the point is that Hillary is driving people out of the blue states and into the red states! :lol: 

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48 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

And yet we still have a system that subvers the will of the majority of citizens...

Neal

:lol:  The founding fathers understood why and is essential to why we are a Republic and not a Democracy.  

A Republic protects the rights of the minority. 

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2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

:lol:  The founding fathers understood why and is essential to why we are a Republic and not a Democracy.  

A Republic protects the rights of the minority. 

That worked out well for blacks. 

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1 minute ago, Nazipigdog said:

That worked out well for blacks. 

Do I need to explain what majority and minority means here?

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I think what that stat says is that people that vote in those Hillary states are fucking morons and anyone with a brain is fleeing them for some sanity. Thank God we dont have a system where urban dwelling morons from populations centers get to dictate to us who our leaders are.

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1 hour ago, steve from amherst said:

Don't worry , your sales tax is only temporary , and will bring down property taxes.

So wasn’t the lottery, the casino and the state income taxes.  Now they’re bringing back tolls.  

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4 hours ago, Snake said:

ry. If you go to states like Arizona, Florida, Tennessee and Texas these days, all you see is out of blue state license plates.

 

wow it's amazing that people are moving south as the population ages and retires,  who would have thunk it.  

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3 hours ago, f7ben said:

I think what that stat says is that people that vote in those Hillary states are fucking morons and anyone with a brain is fleeing them for some sanity. Thank God we dont have a system where urban dwelling morons from populations centers get to dictate to us who our leaders are.

:iagree:

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8 minutes ago, Angry ginger said:

south for the winter with a couple trips up to ride sleds and summers at the lake would be perfect. 

Yup that's the goal.....we have friends that doing that (retired at 50) ....January in Florida, ride sleds Feb and March.....Florida in April since it's mud season. Back in early May for the rest of the year.  

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18 minutes ago, T1R9sledder said:

Yup that's the goal.....we have friends that doing that (retired at 50) ....January in Florida, ride sleds Feb and March.....Florida in April since it's mud season. Back in early May for the rest of the year.  

I like that plan! 👍

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37 minutes ago, Edmo said:

I like that plan! 👍

Wife and I are pricing property in Florida now. Had plenty of chances to buy back in 2009-2010. Thats where I fucked up. :lol: 

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6 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said:

Wife and I are pricing property in Florida now. Had plenty of chances to buy back in 2009-2010. Thats where I fucked up. :lol: 

Tell me about it.....my BIL had at least 5 houses in his gated neighborhood that bank owned and cheap....

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8 minutes ago, Nazipigdog said:

Wife and I are pricing property in Florida now. Had plenty of chances to buy back in 2009-2010. Thats where I fucked up. :lol: 

Oh yeah...same. The 280k condos in 2009 on the beach where we rent are now 480k. The guy we rent from bought a bunch of them back then and now he’s cashing out. (Indian shores, just south of Clearwater)

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29 minutes ago, T1R9sledder said:

Tell me about it.....my BIL had at least 5 houses in his gated neighborhood that bank owned and cheap....

Ma got in cheap down in Ft Myers.   They’re building like crazy too, I suspect we’ll have another correction w the prices :bc:  

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Just now, DriftBusta said:

Ma got in cheap down in Ft Myers.   They’re building like crazy too, I suspect we’ll have another correction w the prices :bc:  

FL always does-  hell theres still special financing rules for FL condo's because those tend to be the most specualtive.  

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