*** OFFICIAL Doug Ford thread ***

[1trailmaker 2,568]

4 hours ago, toslow said:

Slide on over to the Trudy thread and tally up that spending and dept load 

Mulroney 355 billion in debt 8 years = 45 billion deficits a year (40 years ago is huge money today)

Harper 160 billion in debt 10 years = 16 billion deficits a year

Cretien Plus 86 billion over 10 years = 800 million a year debt relief 

Trudy totals to come even including COVID spending he will not have even near the debt Cons have made under their control.

 

but as you can see clearly CONS spend and have horrible records 

 

Facts are Facts then there is CON FACTS    where they don't spend money and only Liberals do 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

While defending his RIGHT to tramp on WORKERS with notwithstanding he says he won't use it and alway willing to negotiate with Unions   

but I have to appeal the courts because they are wrong, I trust the courts will do the Right thing which they didn't do the first round.

 

I can lie directly to you without blinking 

 

 

 

[toslow 1,948]

https://torontosun.com/opinion/goldstein-trudeaus-runaway-spending-hiked-canadas-debt-160-billion-before-pandemic-hit-report

 

Take a good long look bofore you spread anymore misinformation 

[toslow 1,948]

And that's before covid

 

here is something you can study

 

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/examining-federal-debt-in-canada-by-prime-ministers-since-confederation-2022.pdf

Edited December 1, 2022 by toslow

[1trailmaker 2,568]

2 hours ago, toslow said:

https://torontosun.com/opinion/goldstein-trudeaus-runaway-spending-hiked-canadas-debt-160-billion-before-pandemic-hit-report

 

Take a good long look bofore you spread anymore misinformation 

so a CONSERVATIVE OWNED so called INSTITUTION has spoken   

 

This statement should tell you what they know and what they print.

"up to 160 billion in debt" then goes on that the numbers were actually way less  

 

"save up to 80%"  and You see everything 80% off 

 

we know Trudeau's debt up to 2019 and that was 90 billion or 17 per year (16 billion  Harpers' avergae)

Difference is Canadians got something under Trudeau and recieved nothing but RECESSION that lasted 6 years for Harper and his followers cheered the entire time.

[1trailmaker 2,568]

2 hours ago, toslow said:

And that's before covid

 

here is something you can study

 

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/examining-federal-debt-in-canada-by-prime-ministers-since-confederation-2022.pdf

you should read the charts provided, oddly enough if you one read you will see a very ONEWAY NEGATIVE lean.

Chart shows BLUE DEBT GOES UP and RED STAYS THE SAME OR GOES DOWN

 

2 increased to note RED World War II and COVID WORLD SHUT DOWN

 

While the other BLUE has 5 rises without any WAR or anything other then RECESSION caused by government (accordding to PP)

 

Like I said the proof is in the FACTS

[1trailmaker 2,568]

BILL DAVIS 17 consecutive deficits out of 17

 

PC Ontario has 1 balanced budget under Mike Harris in his last year magically balanced (Harper last year too)

 

of course we know Wynne and Squinty had 3 in 15 years 

 

 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

Remember when AG repeated several times that FORD lied about Liberals debt and he kept lying and lying about it being twice what it was?

 

She should mind her own business is how the Premier put it today 

 

 

Edited December 2, 2022 by 1trailmaker

[1trailmaker 2,568]

New Powers used in first week   

 

 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

I am not going to like this new "stay in your own lane" slogan THE RIGHT is starting to use between Doug and Daniel saying it daily now

Nevermind about my buddies make deals with the Premier "stay in your own lane"

 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

2 elections later, huge increases, 6 million dollar man gone, more slogans.

today is blaming Wynne of course for his increases.

 

https://www.thestar.com/politics/provincial/2022/12/02/doug-ford-government-blames-wynnes-liberals-for-high-cost-of-subsidized-electricity.html?rf&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMedia&utm_campaign=QueensPark&utm_content=fordliberals

 

 

 

 

maybe another slogan is needed 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

Ford blames Trudeau for increased violence since FORD took office

his followers all agree the a Conservative is never responsible for their governing.  

 

our hands are tied and we have no plan so Trudeau must deliver something soon 

 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

Lots of protesting Doug Ford and GreenSpace

I wonder if they got some funding and setup some peaceful blockades with bouncy castle in front of the construction entrances.   Being peaceful they have THE RIGHT to block workage  

I am sure THE RIGHT will defend their rights to protest govenments 

 

I see a different outcome 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

good cartoon   

 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

Big turn out for CUPE vote 44000 but 70% is pretty low acceptance rate.

Anyway good for CUPE fighting a real fight for RIGHTS 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

More winning this time with GM who DOUG said was dead in Canada, thanks to Unifor and other partners we Ontario are going to lead in electric cars 

 

All of a sudden Doug is taking credit   anyway as Doug says "Ontario is booming" 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

Doug has come along way in just a few years

From canceling any and all Electric projects as stated as not worth the trouble nobody wants them here.

 

Funny DOUG had NOTHING to do with the deal but certainly is taking some credit for Trudeau's work

 

[Blackstar 5,009]

On 12/5/2022 at 11:09 AM, 1trailmaker said:

Big turn out for CUPE vote 44000 but 70% is pretty low acceptance rate.

Anyway good for CUPE fighting a real fight for RIGHTS 

73% in favour and they thought the vote would be closer.

Most were happy with a $1/hr per year raise it seems.

But I believe this is retro correct? Back to the last contract?

[1trailmaker 2,568]

new NDP leader is a cute one, got to like no one ran against her so she gets a free ride to 180k a year.

Good for her, I wonder if she can boost the party and maybe in a slightly different direction.

A bit less of "the rich can pay a bit more"

 

 

[toslow 1,948]

You should be happier, they prop up the liberals 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

10 hours ago, toslow said:

You should be happier, they prop up the liberals 

? how so

I doubt you understand what a coalition government is, we don't have one now even knowing PP says it daily as apart of his lies.

We have never had a coalition Government in Canada......

 

Do you feel Harper had a coalition government?  how exactly do you think Harper kept power with a Minority government?   

 

When Harper won a Minority, The Liberals could have joined forces with NDP and taken over the Prime Minister seat.  That is a coalition

 

 

the problem is No Party will work with any Conservative Government or we can say never has so far.

[1trailmaker 2,568]

While Doug makes a law that billion dollar building companies no longer must pay for any permits or any type of fees and that city must now pay for it themselves.

He tells a mayor to "stop Whining Do what I say" get on board or I will show  you my #notwithstandinghand

 

 

Douche bag Doug is back the Man with a goal to give wealthy businesses more power and money while he makes workers strike or get nothing under his powerful mighty hand

 

 

Conservatives are never for the people

 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

Remember when Doug won with slogan #3 hallway healthcare?  those were good times in the hospital compared to Doug's mess

unreal what he has caused of course we can just say it's Trudeau's fault

 

 

[1trailmaker 2,568]

Couldn't get a seat in any restaurant bar without a reservation on Saturday night, people must be really struggling when they are lining up to eat

I feel sorry for CPC people as none of them seem to have any money and are having a terrible time surviving 

 

so to defend poverty in Trudeau land we post a pic of a very busy mall  

 

Edited December 12, 2022 by 1trailmaker

[1trailmaker 2,568]

Hallway Health is at its best right now, Ford and his Conservatives have done what all other PC have done in Ontario and that is make our health system the worst it can  be

 

On that note for a leader of the Liberals this John guy has zero speaking abilities