1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 hours ago, toslow said: Slide on over to the Trudy thread and tally up that spending and dept load Mulroney 355 billion in debt 8 years = 45 billion deficits a year (40 years ago is huge money today) Harper 160 billion in debt 10 years = 16 billion deficits a year Cretien Plus 86 billion over 10 years = 800 million a year debt relief Trudy totals to come even including COVID spending he will not have even near the debt Cons have made under their control. but as you can see clearly CONS spend and have horrible records Facts are Facts then there is CON FACTS where they don't spend money and only Liberals do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 While defending his RIGHT to tramp on WORKERS with notwithstanding he says he won't use it and alway willing to negotiate with Unions but I have to appeal the courts because they are wrong, I trust the courts will do the Right thing which they didn't do the first round. I can lie directly to you without blinking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toslow 2,988 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 https://torontosun.com/opinion/goldstein-trudeaus-runaway-spending-hiked-canadas-debt-160-billion-before-pandemic-hit-report Take a good long look bofore you spread anymore misinformation Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toslow 2,988 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) And that's before covid here is something you can study https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/examining-federal-debt-in-canada-by-prime-ministers-since-confederation-2022.pdf Edited December 1, 2022 by toslow Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, toslow said: https://torontosun.com/opinion/goldstein-trudeaus-runaway-spending-hiked-canadas-debt-160-billion-before-pandemic-hit-report Take a good long look bofore you spread anymore misinformation so a CONSERVATIVE OWNED so called INSTITUTION has spoken This statement should tell you what they know and what they print. "up to 160 billion in debt" then goes on that the numbers were actually way less "save up to 80%" and You see everything 80% off we know Trudeau's debt up to 2019 and that was 90 billion or 17 per year (16 billion Harpers' avergae) Difference is Canadians got something under Trudeau and recieved nothing but RECESSION that lasted 6 years for Harper and his followers cheered the entire time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 2 hours ago, toslow said: And that's before covid here is something you can study https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/examining-federal-debt-in-canada-by-prime-ministers-since-confederation-2022.pdf you should read the charts provided, oddly enough if you one read you will see a very ONEWAY NEGATIVE lean. Chart shows BLUE DEBT GOES UP and RED STAYS THE SAME OR GOES DOWN 2 increased to note RED World War II and COVID WORLD SHUT DOWN While the other BLUE has 5 rises without any WAR or anything other then RECESSION caused by government (accordding to PP) Like I said the proof is in the FACTS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 BILL DAVIS 17 consecutive deficits out of 17 PC Ontario has 1 balanced budget under Mike Harris in his last year magically balanced (Harper last year too) of course we know Wynne and Squinty had 3 in 15 years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Remember when AG repeated several times that FORD lied about Liberals debt and he kept lying and lying about it being twice what it was? She should mind her own business is how the Premier put it today Edited December 2, 2022 by 1trailmaker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 New Powers used in first week Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 I am not going to like this new "stay in your own lane" slogan THE RIGHT is starting to use between Doug and Daniel saying it daily now Nevermind about my buddies make deals with the Premier "stay in your own lane" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 2 elections later, huge increases, 6 million dollar man gone, more slogans. today is blaming Wynne of course for his increases. https://www.thestar.com/politics/provincial/2022/12/02/doug-ford-government-blames-wynnes-liberals-for-high-cost-of-subsidized-electricity.html?rf&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMedia&utm_campaign=QueensPark&utm_content=fordliberals maybe another slogan is needed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 3, 2022 Share Posted December 3, 2022 Ford blames Trudeau for increased violence since FORD took office his followers all agree the a Conservative is never responsible for their governing. our hands are tied and we have no plan so Trudeau must deliver something soon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Lots of protesting Doug Ford and GreenSpace I wonder if they got some funding and setup some peaceful blockades with bouncy castle in front of the construction entrances. Being peaceful they have THE RIGHT to block workage I am sure THE RIGHT will defend their rights to protest govenments I see a different outcome Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 good cartoon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 Big turn out for CUPE vote 44000 but 70% is pretty low acceptance rate. Anyway good for CUPE fighting a real fight for RIGHTS Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 5, 2022 Share Posted December 5, 2022 More winning this time with GM who DOUG said was dead in Canada, thanks to Unifor and other partners we Ontario are going to lead in electric cars All of a sudden Doug is taking credit anyway as Doug says "Ontario is booming" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 Doug has come along way in just a few years From canceling any and all Electric projects as stated as not worth the trouble nobody wants them here. Funny DOUG had NOTHING to do with the deal but certainly is taking some credit for Trudeau's work Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Platinum Contributing Member Blackstar 5,943 Posted December 6, 2022 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 12/5/2022 at 11:09 AM, 1trailmaker said: Big turn out for CUPE vote 44000 but 70% is pretty low acceptance rate. Anyway good for CUPE fighting a real fight for RIGHTS 73% in favour and they thought the vote would be closer. Most were happy with a $1/hr per year raise it seems. But I believe this is retro correct? Back to the last contract? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 new NDP leader is a cute one, got to like no one ran against her so she gets a free ride to 180k a year. Good for her, I wonder if she can boost the party and maybe in a slightly different direction. A bit less of "the rich can pay a bit more" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toslow 2,988 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 You should be happier, they prop up the liberals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 10 hours ago, toslow said: You should be happier, they prop up the liberals ? how so I doubt you understand what a coalition government is, we don't have one now even knowing PP says it daily as apart of his lies. We have never had a coalition Government in Canada...... Do you feel Harper had a coalition government? how exactly do you think Harper kept power with a Minority government? When Harper won a Minority, The Liberals could have joined forces with NDP and taken over the Prime Minister seat. That is a coalition the problem is No Party will work with any Conservative Government or we can say never has so far. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 While Doug makes a law that billion dollar building companies no longer must pay for any permits or any type of fees and that city must now pay for it themselves. He tells a mayor to "stop Whining Do what I say" get on board or I will show you my #notwithstandinghand Douche bag Doug is back the Man with a goal to give wealthy businesses more power and money while he makes workers strike or get nothing under his powerful mighty hand Conservatives are never for the people Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Remember when Doug won with slogan #3 hallway healthcare? those were good times in the hospital compared to Doug's mess unreal what he has caused of course we can just say it's Trudeau's fault Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Couldn't get a seat in any restaurant bar without a reservation on Saturday night, people must be really struggling when they are lining up to eat I feel sorry for CPC people as none of them seem to have any money and are having a terrible time surviving so to defend poverty in Trudeau land we post a pic of a very busy mall Edited December 12, 2022 by 1trailmaker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1trailmaker 2,888 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Hallway Health is at its best right now, Ford and his Conservatives have done what all other PC have done in Ontario and that is make our health system the worst it can be On that note for a leader of the Liberals this John guy has zero speaking abilities Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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