How White People Got Made

[motonoggin]

https://medium.com/message/how-white-people-got-made-6eeb076ade42

It started in the late 1600s in America, but like so many scams, it spiraled out of control until it had a life of its own.

Not long after Europeans started arriving on the east coast of North America and the Caribbean Islands they found themselves rich in land but desperate for labor to work the land. The answer they struck upon was importation of bond labor, initially mostly Irish. The Irish had not been considered fully human under English law for centuries, and they ended up in plantations and working sugar under the Caribbean sun. The easy part of importing Irish (and Scottish) slave labor was that they were right next to England. The downside is there wasn’t enough of them for the amazing amounts of land laid before the eager English settlers, and thus the Atlantic slave trade with Africa was born. This is the story we hear in school, but the abridged version we get, intentionally or not, hides the scam of it. Initially the bond terms of convict, Scotch-Irish, and African labor was a set period of time, at the end of which they received bond money and their freedom in this new land. In fact, not that many bondsmen and women lived to be free, but some did, and established themselves as a mixed-race, free peasantry of the new world. If you’ve ever wondered where the free blacks of so many stories of early America came from, a large number were the families of freed African bond laborers.

As time went on, the labor needs of the land holders continued to grow, and desperate to cultivate the land, they were loathe to let go of their bond servants and the bondsmen and bondswomen’s children (whom they kept in bondage for a legally defined time as well). In the mean time, a growing American peasantry was proving as difficult to govern as the European peasantry back home, periodically rising up in riot and rebellion, light skinned and dark skinned together. The political leaders of the Virginia colony struck upon an answer to all these problems, an answer which plagues us to this day.

The Virginians legislated a new class of people into existence: the whites. They gave the whites certain rights, and took other rights from blacks. White, as a language of race, appears in Virginia around the 1680s, and seems to first appear in Virginia law in 1691. And thus whiteness, and to a degree as well blackness, was born in the mind of America.

As of the 18th century whites could not be permanently enslaved as they sometimes had been before, and black slaves could never work their way to freedom. The whites were told this was because God had made the blacks inferior to the whites, just as the whites were inferior to the superior classes that owned property. It’s worthwhile to remember that they didn’t give whites political rights, they didn’t give whites the vote — that would not happen then nor at the revolution and independence. Whites didn’t get the vote until the presidency of Andrew Jackson. Property owners, both of land and slaves, were the only ones who could vote. That included black land and slave owners until various states passed laws in the early 18th century to take their franchise away

This plan worked gorgeously. It broke all efforts of the majority of people, African or European, to fight for civil and political rights in America against a landed class that ruled everything. It reduced a portion of the people to the status of the negro slave, and gave the poor but now white people a precious and entitled inch to stand above the permanently enslaved on the social ladder. The next thing the politicians did sealed the deal: they paid poor whites a bounty for runaway slaves, and often made them overseers for slaves, turning every poor white in America into a prison guard against the people who had once been their neighbors and allies.

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Just as American exceptionalism has been used to prevent sensible change—“Americans have the best healthcare in the world! We must retain the present system to keep that!” (Hint: America does not, in fact, have the best healthcare in the world)—white exceptionalism has been used to keep whites and non-whites from asking why society doesn’t work in obviously more sensible ways.

We can’t undo hundreds of years of cultural programing in a stroke, but the principles of black liberation begin to point a way out of all this for everyone, not just blacks. There are many great lessons to pick up from movements against the status quo across the 20th century and even before, but none in my study so singularly covers the issues that plague both white people and even the existence of our speck of a planet so much as black liberation. Black liberation is comprehensive — it touches on economics, social values, mutual care, environmental systems and problems of pollution, and even the availability and quality of food.

White exceptionalism, and even the elitism of old, finds their end in this age of global troubles. There is no sanity in maintaining these standards of difference. All our children share one destiny — to live their lives at the bottom of the same polluted gravity well, trying, and usually failing, to get their needs met as the acid seas encroach the land and the great variety of life dies before us.

Much more at the link, well worth the read.

[NaturallyAspirated]

Whites cannot, and have not been able to enslave blacks for many generations.  Whites also are not single upon the highest ladder rung in society.  

Neal

[motonoggin]

32 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Whites cannot, and have not been able to enslave blacks for many generations.  Whites also are not single upon the highest ladder rung in society.  

Neal

The disproportionate incarceration rate says that's a lie.

[motonoggin]

[NaturallyAspirated]

57 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

The disproportionate incarceration rate says that's a lie.

Self incarceration.  Black cops have a higher percentage of black incarceration than white incarceration. 

Neal

[Kivalo]

I have very high hopes for this thread!  I suspect hilarious idiocy, from both sides, will be passionately, ignorantly displayed! 

 

[motonoggin]

55 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

Self incarceration.  Black cops have a higher percentage of black incarceration than white incarceration. 

Neal

Wut?

[Rod]

Guess who currently enslave blacks. Muslims. 

[motonoggin]

2 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Guess who currently enslave blacks. Muslims. 

Thanks Obama! 

[Zambroski]

8 minutes ago, Rod Johnson said:

Guess who currently enslave blacks. Muslims. 

Well, seeing as how gays are stoned to death, I guess slavery may be a better option.  I wonder what happens to black gays?  I bet the site librilz would know...they are into the whole mooozzlum culture thingy!  It’s so kewl!!!

6 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

Thanks Obama! 

Finally.  A “Thanks Obama” that actually fits!

 

[Jimmy Snacks]

Pretty sure this white guy was made when my dad fucked my mom.

[JEFF]

2 hours ago, motonoggin said:

The disproportionate incarceration rate says that's a lie.

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe black people just behave badly? Hence more of them end up in jail? 

[motonoggin]

2 minutes ago, JEFF said:

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe black people just behave badly? Hence more of them end up in jail? 

Please tell us more about how black people are genetically predisposed to commit crime.

 

[motonoggin]

Blacks and whites use drugs at almost the same exact rate.

Yet, 80-90% of people incacerated for drug crimes are non-white.

But the system is not racist...

[motonoggin]

White boy Brock Turner rapes woman, gets 6 months.

Black girl Cyntoia Brown kills her rapist, gets life. 

The system is not racist tho.

[Highmark]

Jesus, I cannot imagine living life with so much guilt.   How much money each year do you give to black charities or do you feel your internet preaching is enough?

[Anler]

2 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Jesus, I cannot imagine living life with so much guilt.   How much money each year do you give to black charities or do you feel your internet preaching is enough?

I just resolve myself to accepting that I am systematically racist. Its easier that way. 

[motonoggin]

7 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Jesus, I cannot imagine living life with so much guilt.   How much money each year do you give to black charities or do you feel your internet preaching is enough?

This is yet another example of typical white peopling. 

White person sees systemic injustice carried out against black people and speaks up about it. This outrage is readily dismissed as illegitimate guilt. 

This is yet another example of how white people remain willfully ignorant of systematic racism. 

[JEFF]

27 minutes ago, motonoggin said:

Please tell us more about how black people are genetically predisposed to commit crime.

 

“Throughout the past 30 or 40 years most criminologists couldn’t say the word ‘genetics’ without spitting,” Terrie E. Moffitt, a behavioral scientist at Duke University, said. “Today the most compelling modern theories of crime and violence weave social and biological themes together.”  

Researchers estimate that at least 100 studies have shown that genes play a role in crimes. “Very good methodological advances have meant that a wide range of genetic work is being done,” 

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/arts/genetics-and-crime-at-institute-of-justice-conference.html

[JEFF]

“In New York City alone, blacks are 23% [of the population]; they make up 75% of all shootings, 70% of all robberies, 60% of all violent crimes. White only 3%. That is why there are more blacks in jail than there are whites.”

[NaturallyAspirated]

2 hours ago, motonoggin said:

Please tell us more about how black people are genetically predisposed to commit crime.

 

They are not genetically, it's the system they were born and raised under, just like whites being racists! 

Neal

[Highmark]

3 hours ago, motonoggin said:

This is yet another example of typical white peopling. 

White person sees systemic injustice carried out against black people and speaks up about it. This outrage is readily dismissed as illegitimate guilt. 

This is yet another example of how white people remain willfully ignorant of systematic racism. 

Without question there are legitimate cases of injustice in our legal system.   Blacks face it as do men in general over women.   Women get much less time for the same crimes.

However I don't feel our justice system is in itself set up to incarcerate innocent people.  

I do know this, if you don't break the law to begin with those injustices go away period.  

Perfect example happened not long ago.   Kids robs a store, police chase begins which leads him getting hit and killed by a train.   Now can you tell me the number one way all of this could have been avoided?  

Edited January 29, 2018 by Highmark

[motonoggin]

2 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

They are not genetically, it's the system they were born and raised under, just like whites being racists! 

Neal

Yes. Obviously individual actions play a part, but behavior is largely a response to conditions. Remove the conditions and you remove the behavior. 

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

Without question there are legitimate cases of injustice in our legal system.   Blacks face it as do men in general over women.   Women get much less time for the same crimes.

However I don't feel our justice system is in itself set up to incarcerate innocent people.  

I do know this, if you don't break the law to begin with those injustices go away period.  

Perfect example happened not long ago.   Kids robs a store, police chase begins which leads him getting hit and killed by a train.   Now can you tell me the number one way all of this could have been avoided?  

Eliminate the capitalist system that needs and maintains an underclass in order to preserve it's power over workers?

[Highmark]

Just now, motonoggin said:

Yes. Obviously individual actions play a part, but behavior is largely a response to conditions. Remove the conditions and you remove the behavior. 

Eliminate the capitalist system that needs and maintains an underclass in order to preserve it's power over workers?

   

[JEFF]

@motonoggin  "Researchers estimate that at least 100 studies have shown that genes play a role in crimes."  

 

 

   Nothing on this Moto?