ArcticCrusher Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: Thanks. I just read that overview. Looks similar to some of the REIT's I'm already in.. I definitely like the annualized return. I have that on my radar now. Thanks. Yes except there private. Take a look at the chart on page 11 to see what the private index did for the past 35 years. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.waisc.com/docs/2013/Presentations/Vancouver/1320-PeterFigura.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjfqZW039DkAhXBup4KHUyUDKQQFjASegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3rCmRJUlW5_iDwgYGIhDHl&cshid=1568478999340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Yes except there private. Take a look at the chart on page 11 to see what the private index did for the past 35 years. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.waisc.com/docs/2013/Presentations/Vancouver/1320-PeterFigura.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjfqZW039DkAhXBup4KHUyUDKQQFjASegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3rCmRJUlW5_iDwgYGIhDHl&cshid=1568478999340 The REIT's I'm currently in are private as well. I will read through that link. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said: The REIT's I'm currently in are private as well. I will read through that link. Thanks. Awesome. I have a meeting next week on this one. Edited September 14, 2019 by ArcticCrusher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Yes except there private. Take a look at the chart on page 11 to see what the private index did for the past 35 years. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://www.waisc.com/docs/2013/Presentations/Vancouver/1320-PeterFigura.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwjfqZW039DkAhXBup4KHUyUDKQQFjASegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw3rCmRJUlW5_iDwgYGIhDHl&cshid=1568478999340 So can a US citizen buy shares of this REIT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: So can a US citizen buy shares of this REIT? I don't know. There must more similar opportunities down in the land of opportunities. Just an FYI to what I'm doing going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: I don't know. There must more similar opportunities down in the land of opportunities. Just an FYI to what I'm doing going forward. Roger that. From where I sit, it seems like investing in a REIT in Canada may be a lot safer than a similar REIT in the states. In Canada, lots of kids go to University. In Canada you don't have near as many complete shithole slum apartments. In Canada you don't have near as many people (% wise) on public assistance. As I read that closer it may just be the difference between Private and Publicly traded REIT's. I have a bit of money in private REIT's now. I would like to invest more, for all the reasons listed on those two links you posted. The securities firm where I have a majority of my money limits my REIT holdings to 33% of portfolio value. That is probably good but I would like some more private REIT's. I'm currently looking at ways to work around that, like opening another account with another securities firm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 6 hours ago, AKIQPilot said: Roger that. From where I sit, it seems like investing in a REIT in Canada may be a lot safer than a similar REIT in the states. In Canada, lots of kids go to University. In Canada you don't have near as many complete shithole slum apartments. In Canada you don't have near as many people (% wise) on public assistance. As I read that closer it may just be the difference between Private and Publicly traded REIT's. I have a bit of money in private REIT's now. I would like to invest more, for all the reasons listed on those two links you posted. The securities firm where I have a majority of my money limits my REIT holdings to 33% of portfolio value. That is probably good but I would like some more private REIT's. I'm currently looking at ways to work around that, like opening another account with another securities firm. Why would they limit that? Mind you that's actually the target limit I'm striving for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Just now, ArcticCrusher said: Why would they limit that? Mind you that's actually the target limit I'm striving for. It's just their policy. REIT's are considered Alternative Investments. I can only leverage 33% of my portfolio on Alternatives. I'm gonna open a brokerage account this coming week and do a little playing on the side. Obviously there will be no limits there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Expected returns. I wonder how they fared predicting this past decade. https://www.canadianportfoliomanagerblog.com/ask-bender-expected-returns-for-the-vanguard-asset-allocation-etfs/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Expected returns. I wonder how they fared predicting this past decade. https://www.canadianportfoliomanagerblog.com/ask-bender-expected-returns-for-the-vanguard-asset-allocation-etfs/ Who here is the " WHALE " of FS1.com??? Maybe Arctic Crusher. What is everybody's TOTAL NET WORTH??????? Post it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, ArcticCrusher said: Expected returns. I wonder how they fared predicting this past decade. https://www.canadianportfoliomanagerblog.com/ask-bender-expected-returns-for-the-vanguard-asset-allocation-etfs/ Let's guess members TNW!! This is fun!!! Benny No Penny...…………….$250,000.00. Awful Mouthful...……………..$150,000.00. Arctic Crusher...………………..$4,500,000.00. AK Shortpants……………………$600,000.00. Louis Ck...……………………………$350,000.00. Joelle...…………………………………$150,000.00. Steve Amherst...………………….$875,000.00. Kivalo……………………………………$150,000.00. Sledgey………………………………….$500,00.00. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Polaris 550 said: Let's guess members TNW!! This is fun!!! Benny No Penny...…………….$250,000.00. Awful Mouthful...……………..$150,000.00. Arctic Crusher...………………..$4,500,000.00. AK Shortpants……………………$600,000.00. Louis Ck...……………………………$350,000.00. Joelle...…………………………………$150,000.00. Steve Amherst...………………….$875,000.00. Kivalo……………………………………$150,000.00. Sledgey………………………………….$500,00.00. A little low on AC. Way high on everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, AKIQPilot said: A little low on AC. Way high on everyone else. Steve already said he was worth just under a mill. Sledgey owns a big farm. Maybe his TNW is up there. Kivvie is a captain, so he must have some money by now...…….he's 39 or somethin. Awffy has a house, and some land up country, and a Outlander 1000. OK, maybe I'm high. I don't know, just guessin'. Benny makes big bucks, and has a house or two. He must have some equity on these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Angry ginger said: Post your age, and your TNW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaturallyAspirated Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 17 hours ago, AKIQPilot said: The REIT's I'm currently in are private as well. I will read through that link. Thanks. You rubes! I use a Sealy mattress! No these look like interesting tools. I've become an investment nerd (mostly with agriculture tools, covering with put and call futures options, ect.). There is some fun stuff out there. Now I just need the starting bankroll to play with! Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticCrusher Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 9 hours ago, Polaris 550 said: Let's guess members TNW!! This is fun!!! Benny No Penny...…………….$250,000.00. Awful Mouthful...……………..$150,000.00. Arctic Crusher...………………..$4,500,000.00. AK Shortpants……………………$600,000.00. Louis Ck...……………………………$350,000.00. Joelle...…………………………………$150,000.00. Steve Amherst...………………….$875,000.00. Kivalo……………………………………$150,000.00. Sledgey………………………………….$500,00.00. Where's Barb, and yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, NaturallyAspirated said: You rubes! I use a Sealy mattress! No these look like interesting tools. I've become an investment nerd (mostly with agriculture tools, covering with put and call futures options, ect.). There is some fun stuff out there. Now I just need the starting bankroll to play with! Neal Do yourself a favor and stay away from options. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Do yourself a favor and stay away from options. Can I lose money faster with options than inverse leveraged etfs? If so sign me up!!!!!11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, f7ben said: Can I lose money faster with options than inverse leveraged etfs? If so sign me up!!!!!11 Yes. i had a buddy who thought he could play the option game. He lost a boatload. They wont let us trade them at EJ at all, too much risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Going to grab some OXY and some BP first thing in the morning. Both a pretty good value and yielding almost 7% dividends. Might be a decent play with the Saudi refinery issues going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, DriftBusta said: Yes. i had a buddy who thought he could play the option game. He lost a boatload. They wont let us trade them at EJ at all, too much risk. I worked with an electrician who turned 9k into 64k in just 2 years playing stocks. He literally had zero clue what he was doing. Got his account option approved and bet it all on apple making a 5% move to the upside on a 30 day contract. He lost every nickel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKIQPilot Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: I worked with an electrician who turned 9k into 64k in just 2 years playing stocks. He literally had zero clue what he was doing. Got his account option approved and bet it all on apple making a 5% move to the upside on a 30 day contract. He lost every nickel Easy come easy go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, AKIQPilot said: Easy come easy go. He didnt even know that if his option didnt meet the strike price it was worthless and that when it expired he would have $0.....he had no idea 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriftBusta Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, f7ben said: I worked with an electrician who turned 9k into 64k in just 2 years playing stocks. He literally had zero clue what he was doing. Got his account option approved and bet it all on apple making a 5% move to the upside on a 30 day contract. He lost every nickel Ouch. The better moves if want to increase the risk reward are to look for smallcap, midcaps that have big jumps. Parcel out funds you can afford to lose and play with that. I have a couple clients who do ok doing it that way, and even they occasionally pick losers. Everytime I try and get cute or go with a hunch even years back before Inhad the license I seem to get burned so I just stick to fundamentals now, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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