The right decision?

[snoughnut]

8 hours ago, polaris550 said:

No, the court shoved it up THEIR BAKING ASSES!!           They lost their business, and GOT FINED!!!! Rightly so!!! 

Religiou-freaks need to just fuckin' die. 

......so do faggots who get offended and butthurt because a business chooses not to bake a cake for them.

[Cold War]

4 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

It’s our liberal court system raging out of control.  Rather than facing a fine, loss of license or public ridicule, you can now be sued for making somebody sad or angry and lose your business and your home.  

I agree it is way out of control. A local attorney is suing Little Ceasers  pizza because a franchise mistakenly put peperoni on a muslims pizza. He was so horrified when he opened the box it caused him severe mental anguish.

 

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, Snoslinger said:

then you likely wouldn't be in business very long. if you are going to run a public business, too fucking bad that you're not allowed to discriminate at your own will. that would open a huge can of worms so let's just keep it simple, stupid!

 

This is the thing that is tripping you up.  But no matter.  Fact is, you are correct.  Maybe they wouldn't be in business very long...and that's fine and how it is supposed to work.  Good business practices should be rewarded with repeat business and good word of mouth.

Here's the issue here.  A couple got awarded an absurd amount of money because somebody didn;t perform a service the way they wanted and made them feel angry and/or sad about it...until they realized they could sue and maybe get some coin from it.  It's idiocy from your side.  Period.

[Zambroski]

2 minutes ago, Cold War said:

I agree it is way out of control. A local attorney is suing Little Ceasers  pizza because a franchise mistakenly put peperoni on a muslims pizza. He was so horrified when he opened the box it caused him severe mental anguish.

 

Heard about that.  UNREAL!!!!

[Mileage Psycho]

8 hours ago, DAVE said:

He didnt want to make them a cake...he wasnt refusing them from buying anything available to buy in the store if i remember correctly....so you can shove your public accomidation up your ass.

I understand that you are rather simple and I would never hold that against anyone, but you should understand that sometimes it is better for the simple to stay silent when they have no clue  

The United States and it states operate under the rule of law, judges and courts base there decisions under the rule of law  

 

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42 U.S. Code § 2000a - Prohibition against discrimination or segregation in places of public accommodation

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(a)Equal access

All persons shall be entitled to the full and equal enjoyment of the goods, services, facilities, privileges, advantages, and accommodations of any place of public accommodation, as defined in this section, without discrimination or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, or national origin.

(b)Establishments affecting interstate commerce or supported in their activities by State action as places of public accommodation; lodgings; facilities principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises; gasoline stations; places of exhibition or entertainment; other covered establishmentsEach of the following establishments which serves the public is a place of public accommodation within the meaning of this subchapter if its operations affect commerce, or if discrimination or segregation by it is supported by State action:

(1)

any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment which provides lodging to transient guests, other than an establishment located within a building which contains not more than five rooms for rent or hire and which is actually occupied by the proprietor of such establishment as his residence;

(2)

any restaurant, cafeteria, lunchroom, lunch counter, soda fountain, or other facility principally engaged in selling food for consumption on the premises, including, but not limited to, any such facility located on the premises of any retail establishment; or any gasoline station;

(3)

any motion picture house, theater, concert hall, sports arena, stadium or other place of exhibition or entertainment; and

(4)

any establishment (A)(i) which is physically located within the premises of any establishment otherwise covered by this subsection, or (ii) within the premises of which is physically located any such covered establishment, and (B) which holds itself out as serving patrons of such covered establishment.

(c)Operations affecting commerce; criteria; “commerce” defined

The operations of an establishment affect commerce within the meaning of this subchapter if (1) it is one of the establishments described in paragraph (1) of subsection (b); (2) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (2) of subsection (b), it serves or offers to serve interstate travelers of a substantial portion of the food which it serves, or gasoline or other products which it sells, has moved in commerce; (3) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (3) of subsection (b), it customarily presents films, performances, athletic teams, exhibitions, or other sources of entertainment which move in commerce; and (4) in the case of an establishment described in paragraph (4) of subsection (b), it is physically located within the premises of, or there is physically located within its premises, an establishment the operations of which affect commerce within the meaning of this subsection. For purposes of this section, “commerce” means travel, trade, traffic, commerce, transportation, or communication among the several States, or between the District of Columbia and any State, or between any foreign country or any territory or possession and any State or the District of Columbia, or between points in the same State but through any other State or the District of Columbia or a foreign country.

(d)Support by State action

Discrimination or segregation by an establishment is supported by State action within the meaning of this subchapter if such discrimination or segregation (1) is carried on under color of any law, statute, ordinance, or regulation; or (2) is carried on under color of any custom or usage required or enforced by officials of the Stateor political subdivision thereof; or (3) is required by action of the State or political subdivision thereof.

(e)Private establishments

The provisions of this subchapter shall not apply to a private club or other establishment not in fact open to the public, except to the extent that the facilities of such establishment are made available to the customers or patrons of an establishment within the scope of subsection (b).

(Pub. L. 88–352, title II, § 201, July 2, 1964, 78 Stat. 243.)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/2000a

 

 

[Cold War]

2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

yep and i commented that it was wrong to do, based on what little we knew about the story. 

Right, it wasn't covered by anyone other than Right wing outlets. cycled for a day or two and was gone.

I think most still sided with coffee owner.

[XCR1250]

3 minutes ago, Cold War said:

I agree it is way out of control. A local attorney is suing Little Ceasers  pizza because a franchise mistakenly put peperoni on a muslims pizza. He was so horrified when he opened the box it caused him severe mental anguish.

 

I suppose he beheaded his wife and kids because of it.

[SnowRider]

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

The constitution should be enforced...unless it makes the liberal hordes feel sad inside.  And really, what DOESN’T do that?  

You know, my father used to tell me that if others are affecting your life so much by the way they live or think, you aren’t minding enough of your own business.

You obviously didn’t listen to a word he said 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

then you likely wouldn't be in business very long. if you are going to run a public business, too fucking bad that you're not allowed to discriminate at your own will. that would open a huge can of worms so let's just keep it simple, stupid!

 

 

[Dave]

1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said:

I understand that you are rather simple and I would never hold that against anyone, but you should understand that sometimes it is better for the simple to stay silent when they have no clue  

The United States and it states operate under the rule of law, judges and courts base there decisions under the rule of law  

 

 

Simple eh...you ride a cat no matter what....

 

[Snoslinger]

7 minutes ago, Cold War said:

I agree it is way out of control. A local attorney is suing Little Ceasers  pizza because a franchise mistakenly put peperoni on a muslims pizza. He was so horrified when he opened the box it caused him severe mental anguish.

 

probably some rww worker who did it intentionally. 

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, Mileage Psycho said:

I understand that you are rather simple and I would never hold that against anyone, but you should understand that sometimes it is better for the simple to stay silent when they have no clue  

The United States and it states operate under the rule of law, judges and courts base there decisions under the rule of law  

 

 

Did the punishment fit the crime, Vince?  As a business owner...answer that accordingly.  Or, as a liberal....you can lie of you want.  

[SnowRider]

3 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Heard about that.  UNREAL!!!!

That’s unreal but this isn’t.......

[Cold War]

1 minute ago, XCR1250 said:

I suppose he beheaded his wife and kids because of it.

Not sure..........I thought there was maybe something about not being able to bang his goat, though.

[Dave]

3 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Heard about that.  UNREAL!!!!

You offended me...time to see a lawyer...

[Zambroski]

1 minute ago, SnowRider said:

You obviously didn’t listen to a word he said 

 

 

 

How can I listen?  This is the internet.  This is why you are so fucked up.  You're stupid.  Now get lost you fucking tool kit.  You aren't helping your team at all.  In fact, they want their uniform back. 

 

[Snoslinger]

4 minutes ago, Cold War said:

Right, it wasn't covered by anyone other than Right wing outlets. cycled for a day or two and was gone.

I think most still sided with coffee owner.

more to the story, as i suspected. this group was just not there getting a cup of coffee...

"Members of the group had been inside of his business distributing a disturbing flyer (see here if you must) depicting blood-covered rainbow hands letting go of an aborted fetus, which has no place in any public setting, let alone a coffee shop."

 

[Zambroski]

3 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

probably some rww worker who did it intentionally. 

No question about that!!!!  And he should lose his house!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Cold War]

2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

probably some rww worker who did it intentionally. 

They interviewed the owner, it was legitimate. He said a customer told him the group was handing out pro-life flyers or something. He admitted they did not bring any literature in his shop.

[Zambroski]

Just now, Snoslinger said:

more to the story, as i suspected. this group was just not there getting a cup of coffee...

"Members of the group had been inside of his business distributing a disturbing flyer (see here if you must) depicting blood-covered rainbow hands letting go of an aborted fetus, which has no place in any public setting, let alone a coffee shop."

 

Yeah...gonna back you here.  These fucking religious freaks were looking for trouble....and had cameras at the ready.  How very librul of them tho....amirite?

[Cold War]

2 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

more to the story, as i suspected. this group was just not there getting a cup of coffee...

"Members of the group had been inside of his business distributing a disturbing flyer (see here if you must) depicting blood-covered rainbow hands letting go of an aborted fetus, which has no place in any public setting, let alone a coffee shop."

 

They were not handing out fliers in his shop. They stopped in for coffee, they had no idea the owner was gay.  

Edited December 29, 2017 by Cold War

[Snoslinger]

3 minutes ago, Cold War said:

They were not handing out fliers in his shop.

if all they were doing was having some coffee, the owner had no business kicking them out. 

[Cold War]

Just now, Snoslinger said:

if all they were doing was having some coffee, the owner had no business kicking them out. 

I would kick them out of my shop if they were harassing my customers with that crap.

[Snoslinger]

5 minutes ago, Cold War said:

They were not handing out fliers in his shop.

curious if you think this group "knew what they were doing"?

 

[Zambroski]

3 minutes ago, DAVE said:

You offended me...time to see a lawyer...

Good luck!  I saw this shit coming eight years ago and got proper counsel.  I literally don't have a pot to piss in!!!!  Unless I need one.  You may be able to prove I own my underwear...and i'm still not giving them to you no matter what the courts say.....you''ll spend hundreds of thousands chasing me arouind the rest of your life trying to get your underwear judgment fullfilled. 

....and my point here is, that's what these "lottery winners" are  gonna have to do to collect their money.  At least I hope so.  

 

[Edmo]

15 minutes ago, Snoslinger said:

probably some rww worker who did it intentionally. 

The school system I went to only offers Halal pepperoni on the pizzas. Wouldn’t want to offend anyone!!!!!1111  

Edited December 29, 2017 by Edmo