jtssrx Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hours ago, SnowRider said: Take your worthless fucking fundamentalist and perpetual peddling of false information and shove it up your ass fella's Skidmark and Company is sooooo fucking stupid Klanned Parenthood FACT CHECK: Does a photograph document Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger speaking to women of the Ku Klux Klan? Claim: A photograph documents Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger speaking to women of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK). MIXTURE WHAT’S TRUE: Margaret Sanger once gave a talk before a women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan. WHAT’S FALSE: Margaret Sanger expressed affinity for the KKK; a photograph showing her at a Klan rally is genuine. Examples: [Collected via e-mail and Twitter, September 2015] I read on Facebook today that in 1926, Margaret Sanger (founder of Planned Parenthood) gave a speech about birth control to the KKK in favor of creating a “superior” white race. I was unable to verify whether it was true. Origins: A controversy in mid-2015 regarding Planned Parenthood and the purported sale of fetal tissue ignited many social media debates about reproductive health, and among the many threads of discussion were numerous claims about Planned Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger. A common assertion about Sanger’s legacy holds that her efforts to afford women (and families) expanded reproductive agency were racist in nature (as demonstrated by a rumor holding that Sanger once described people of color as “weeds” that ought to be “exterminated”). The 2015 Planned Parenthood controversy debate was peppered with iterations of the above-embedded photograph alongside myriad claims that Sanger had addressed Ku Klux Klan members (presumably to garner support for her endeavors among violent extremists with whom she shared a vision of white supremacy). Unlike other tidbits of lore that have since evolved to paint Sanger as unapologetically racist, the veracity of the photograph depicting her addressing female KKK members was easily determined. An original version of the photograph in question was uploaded to the white supremacist web site Stormfront in February 2008 and shows that it contained a lit cross that was edited out and replaced with an image of Sanger: Viewers confused about the image’s veracity could be partially excused, as the blog with which it appeared to have originated (ostensibly fabricated to illustrate a point) was offline by the time the photograph began circulating widely in 2015 (although an archived copy of that blog post can be seen here). The quote that inspired the photograph was itself a falsehood. With its original context largely erased from the Internet, the doctored photograph gained traction among Planned Parenthood’s detractors. By September 2015, the image had been merged with the backstory seen in the “Example” field above: While the photograph was an unrelated fabrication, there was a grain of (deeply distorted) truth to the assertion Sanger once addressed female KKK members in Silver Lake, New Jersey: There is little question that Sanger supported the eugenics movement, but one statement really stuck out. Sanger was “an active participant in the Ku Klux Klan.” It turns out, Sanger did speak to a group connected to the KKK and wrote about it openly. In Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, published in 1938, Sanger details her work advocating birth control across the United States and emphasizes her willingness to talk to virtually anyone. “Always to me any aroused group was a good group,” Sanger writes, “and therefore I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan at Silver Lake, New Jersey, one of the weirdest experiences I had in lecturing.” While Sanger did speak to such an audience in 1926, “she didn’t hold the group in the highest esteem,” and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. spoke favorably of her at the height of the U.S. civil rights movement: “Never before had I looked into a sea of faces like these. I was sure that if I uttered one word, such as abortion, outside the usual vocabulary of these women they would go off into hysteria. And so my address that night had to be in the most elementary terms, as though I were trying to make children understand,” Sanger writes. We should also note that in 1966, while she was still alive, Planned Parenthood bestowed the Margaret Sanger award on Martin Luther King Jr. He accepted, and while he was unable to attend the event, his wife Coretta showed up in his place to read his speech. In it, King wrote: “There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger’s early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist — a nonviolent resister.” Given the fact that Sanger’s autobiography had been published nearly 30 years before King’s speech, her earlier address was no secret. It should be clear the civil rights leader did not think of Sanger as a racist. In short, Sanger once addressed female KKK members in a bid to have her message heard as widely as possible, but she both openly described that meeting and disparaged the group’s mission in her writings, and a photograph supposedly depicting that talk (or a similar one) is fabricated. Last updated: 30 September 2015 Originally published: 30 September 2015 Got a tip or a rumor? Contact us here. http://www.snopes.com/margaret-sanger-kkk/ more ownage http://www.snopes.com/margaret-sanger-weeds/ Snopes??? LMAO!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hours ago, SnowRider said: Why do 90+% of blacks and majorities of other minorities vote D? Are they wrong and you're correct? Or are you insinuating they don't know who best represents them? Yes they've been duped into thinking Democrats care about Blacks and minorities. The statistical data proves this is a falsehood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 http://www.nationalreview.com/article/450678/alt-right-abortion-richard-spencer-upholds-margaret-sanger-eugenicist-legacy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bussman Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, ActionfigureJoe said: thomas jefferson impregnated a 12 year old slave girl back in the 1700's. John Podesta and Bill Clinton have beat that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 57 minutes ago, jtssrx said: Yes they've been duped into thinking Democrats care about Blacks and minorities. The statistical data proves this is a falsehood. Which statistical data? And once you find something, ask yourself whether it qualifies as correlation or causation with respect to democratic policy. We want to keep things intellectually honest ya know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: Which statistical data? And once you find something, ask yourself whether it qualifies as correlation or causation with respect to democratic policy. We want to keep things intellectually honest ya know. Nazi. Yup. Keep it intellectual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 5 hours ago, jtssrx said: This thread will be roundly ignored by someone like MC who is calling people Nazi's today Margaret Sanger was a racist piece of shit, just like your Nazi bretheren on the right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 9 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Margaret Sanger was a racist piece of shit, just like your Nazi bretheren on the right. Define Nazi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, XC.Morrison said: Which statistical data? And once you find something, ask yourself whether it qualifies as correlation or causation with respect to democratic policy. We want to keep things intellectually honest ya know. The first obvious one is blacks and minority's were deaper in poverty and had higher unemployment numbers after 8 years of Obama. Every major city is run by democrats all have the highest crime rates, highest unemployment, highest poverty levels, highest rates of children with no father in the home. When Democrats pushed welfare in the late 50s single parent fsmilys with no father were 25%. Today 75% have no father in the home. Edited August 23, 2017 by jtssrx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, XC.Morrison said: Which statistical data? And once you find something, ask yourself whether it qualifies as correlation or causation with respect to democratic policy. We want to keep things intellectually honest ya know. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1871757649755274&id=1859948660936173&_rdr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 2 hours ago, bussman said: John Podesta and Bill Clinton have beat that. not to mention all those murders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICEMAN! Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 5 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said: 1926. My thoughts exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 5 hours ago, jtssrx said: Snopes??? LMAO!!!!!! If you go to Snopes, search "Snopes", it comes back with "False". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildboer Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 3 hours ago, Snake said: Define Nazi. Violent anti-Semitic white supremacists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum Contributing Member SnowRider Posted August 24, 2017 Platinum Contributing Member Share Posted August 24, 2017 5 hours ago, jtssrx said: Yes they've been duped into thinking Democrats care about Blacks and minorities. The statistical data proves this is a falsehood. Are you implying they are stupid? And of so - how is that NOT a racist statement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 WHAT’S TRUE: Margaret Sanger once gave a talk before a women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ez ryder Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 8 hours ago, SnowRider said: Why do 90+% of blacks and majorities of other minorities vote D? Are they wrong and you're correct? Or are you insinuating they don't know who best represents them? no one said you side was not masters of manipulation and pandering for power . you side has pushed for race division from the start . now you still do on some what of a worse level . oh we need to do more for said race because they can not do it for them self. most race bias shit out comes as mandates from your people . that is a fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 8 minutes ago, Wildboer said: Violent anti-Semitic white supremacists. Analer??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepr2 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 4 hours ago, XC.Morrison said: Which statistical data? And once you find something, ask yourself whether it qualifies as correlation or causation with respect to democratic policy. We want to keep things intellectually honest ya know. 3 hours ago, Wildboer said: Margaret Sanger was a racist piece of shit, just like your Nazi bretheren on the right. Leave it to the libtards to blame the right for their own racist history Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XC.Morrison Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, jtssrx said: The first obvious one is blacks and minority's were deaper in poverty and had higher unemployment numbers after 8 years of Obama. Every major city is run by democrats all have the highest crime rates, highest unemployment, highest poverty levels, highest rates of children with no father in the home. When Democrats pushed welfare in the late 50s single parent fsmilys with no father were 25%. Today 75% have no father in the home. I see a lot of correlation but not a lot to explain why democrats and Obama are to blame. Are you suggesting that expanding welfare programs and things like the earned income tax credit and the child tax credit have increased poverty? The poverty rate in itself isn't that meaningful as a metric for measuring progress as it's rather arbitrary as illustrated here: I'll also add that the unemployment rate for blacks was cut in half from the high point of the Great Recession and there have been modest gains in median income. 38% more businesses are now owned by blacks than in 2007. The teen pregnancy rate per 1000 was in the 60's in 2008, now it's in the low 30's. The high school graduation rate for blacks is at an all time high. You can argue he should have done even more than he did, but how willing would conngress have been to go along? They blocked several actions he wanted to pursue as it was. Edited August 24, 2017 by XC.Morrison 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 9 hours ago, SnowRider said: Why do 90+% of blacks and majorities of other minorities vote D? Are they wrong and you're correct? Or are you insinuating they don't know who best represents them? They know who is in favor of more pogey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 12 minutes ago, XC.Morrison said: I see a lot of correlation but not a lot to explain why democrats and Obama are to blame. Are you suggesting that expanding welfare programs and things like the earned income tax credit and the child tax credit have increased poverty? The poverty rate in itself isn't that meaningful as a metric for measuring progress as it's rather arbitrary as illustrated here: I'll also add that the unemployment rate for blacks was cut in half from the high point of the Great Recession and there have been modest gains in median income. 38% more businesses are now owned by blacks than in 2007. The teen pregnancy rate per 1000 was in the 60's in 2008, now it's in the low 30's. The high school graduation rate for blacks is at an all time high. You can argue he should have done even more than he did, but how willing would conngress have been to go along? They blocked several actions he wanted to pursue as it was. You are the most intelligent left leaning person in this forum. You talk and its not Dump this and Dump that. Mad props Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtssrx Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Snake said: If you go to Snopes, search "Snopes", it comes back with "False". They litterly supported Hillary. They are leftists Edited August 24, 2017 by jtssrx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 51 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: They know who is in favor of more pogey. A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul. George Bernard Shaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ActionfigureJoe Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 3 hours ago, ICEMAN! said: My thoughts exactly none of the right wing loons here knew who margaret was until this post. now they're all experts on her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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