This is an excellent book. a must have for what lays ahead.  
 

 

then there's scurvy... better get some frozen fruits and veggies.  

toilet paper... because that's apparently the first thing the citiots will make a run on

 

6 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Problem is if things are bad enough and the military works within itself to save itself would be bad.  Things change dramatically once their fuel runs out.  Unfortunately with what we've seen with LE from local to the top I don't think they could be trusted.   Military would likely be the same.   If people are really concerned about something like this occurring you're best to focus on you and yours.....nobody else. 

I honestly don't think our current LEO and military would survive intact.  There's too much against them and once they realize that the heavily armed population isn't going to play around with fascism goons, they'll make choices.  Honestly, both LEO's and military I know of aren't interested in laying out martial law orders from these clowns.  There will always be a few though but, they'll be dispatched easily.

Funny.  I've got three of my old "hard hittin' niggas" coming up this way for our yearly (mostly) shit show we've been doing since we got out of the military.  We're going into Canada for fishing instead of the gulf this time. We're all gonna look like some washed up, bearded ex Black Water, oakley wearing cronies rolling into the border.  I bet if we had a Humveee...they might just surrender their country.   Point is, we'll have some interesting conversations about all this. 

Chance of us making it successfully across the border?  3 in 5. 

six months of food check  seeds check water purification check firearms check five hundred rounds minimum for each check radio check first aid supplies check 5 half gallons cheap booze check 6 ounces pot check solar check propane check

 

if i dont make it to the bunker you folks have graciously paid for me of course

8 minutes ago, Tommcat said:

if you have a single firearm and even a small amount of ammo, and are willing to do what it takes, it is easy to get everything you need.
most people however, will not be willing to do what it takes

People have asked me, "how much ammo you got?" My answer is always the same, "Enough to go get more."   

"Doing what it takes" won't be in mosts playbook at all.  They'll perish (or worse) within months.

11 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

People have asked me, "how much ammo you got?" My answer is always the same, "Enough to go get more."   

"Doing what it takes" won't be in mosts playbook at all.  They'll perish (or worse) within months.

I'm not a prepper in the slightest but I do live 7 miles from any town whatsoever.   I do have guns, ammo and about 6 months of food for 8-10 people.   River that runs within 50 yards of my house and plenty of game.  As stated above a few hog confinements within a few miles.  If I got solar which I plan to in the next 3-5 years and some seeds I'd be pretty set.  I'm by no means putting solar in for anything other than eventually reduce utility bills but it would provide piece of mind.  

You wouldn't believe how many friends and family say to me even jokingly...."if the shit hits the fan we are coming to your place."

I always respond "well you better bring plenty to the party or you're not welcome."  

Ammo people should have as a minimum.  Note I do not have this much of any.  Just think its what should be on hand. 

5.56 5000 rounds 

9mm 1000

.45 ACP 500

12/20 GA 2500 rounds in a variety mainly game loads and 00 buck.

.22 lr  5000 rounds 

 

Edited October 16, 2024Oct 16 by Highmark

18 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

then there's scurvy... better get some frozen fruits and veggies.  

that only happens to pirates

2 minutes ago, Tommcat said:

that only happens to pirates

Can happen to anyone with low vit c intake.   Vit C pills are cheap to stock. 

4 minutes ago, Tommcat said:

that only happens to pirates

and... ?

30 minutes ago, Highmark said:

I'm not a prepper in the slightest but I do live 7 miles from any town whatsoever.   I do have guns, ammo and about 6 months of food for 8-10 people.   River that runs within 50 yards of my house and plenty of game.  As stated above a few hog confinements within a few miles.  If I got solar which I plan to in the next 3-5 years and some seeds I'd be pretty set.  I'm by no means putting solar in for anything other than eventually reduce utility bills but it would provide piece of mind.  

You wouldn't believe how many friends and family say to me even jokingly...."if the shit hits the fan we are coming to your place."

I always respond "well you better bring plenty to the party or you're not welcome."  

Ammo people should have as a minimum.  Note I do not have this much of any.  Just think its what should be on hand. 

5.56 5000 rounds 

9mm 1000

.45 ACP 500

12/20 GA 2500 rounds in a variety mainly game loads and 00 buck.

.22 lr  5000 rounds 

 

i'm not disagreeing with any of those ammo suggestions, just saying that with a handful of .22 lr, one can upgrade quickly

On 10/13/2024 at 9:46 AM, Sled_Hed said:

What about a 3000 gun fortress?

Asking for a friend 

1 hour ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

toilet paper... because that's apparently the first thing the citiots will make a run on

 

3 hours ago, Highmark said:

I'm not a prepper in the slightest but I do live 7 miles from any town whatsoever.   I do have guns, ammo and about 6 months of food for 8-10 people.   River that runs within 50 yards of my house and plenty of game.  As stated above a few hog confinements within a few miles.  If I got solar which I plan to in the next 3-5 years and some seeds I'd be pretty set.  I'm by no means putting solar in for anything other than eventually reduce utility bills but it would provide piece of mind.  

You wouldn't believe how many friends and family say to me even jokingly...."if the shit hits the fan we are coming to your place."

I always respond "well you better bring plenty to the party or you're not welcome."  

Ammo people should have as a minimum.  Note I do not have this much of any.  Just think its what should be on hand. 

5.56 5000 rounds 

9mm 1000

.45 ACP 500

12/20 GA 2500 rounds in a variety mainly game loads and 00 buck.

.22 lr  5000 rounds 

 

That's a lot of ammo but, if you are staying put, it makes sense.  I've started amassing more 12ga ammo.  I think this weapon may be the best bet....at first anyway.  Nothing beats it at close range...and the fact these won't be fully dressed soldiers means it's take down, even at distance will be impressive.  

I'm overdue for a full inventory for sure.  

10 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

That's a lot of ammo but, if you are staying put, it makes sense.  I've started amassing more 12ga ammo.  I think this weapon may be the best bet....at first anyway.  Nothing beats it at close range...and the fact these won't be fully dressed soldiers means it's take down, even at distance will be impressive.  

I'm overdue for a full inventory for sure.  

Its not about use its about it being used as a commodity or money for trade. 

13 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Its not about use its about it being used as a commodity or money for trade. 

Good thinking.   

49 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

Good thinking.   

Shit thing is it could be used to kill you. 

12 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Shit thing is it could be used to kill you. 

Mhm.  I'd think you'd be forced to "volunteer" for the cause if you weren't doing anything with it but protecting your own.  Prolly given the choice to keep enough for protection/hunting or, give up everything (literally).

Weird to think how this would all play out.  History is a good indicator but these are certainly a bit different times right now.  Guns and ammo were commandeered from citizens at the outset and during the US revolution.  There wasn't much choice....well, kinda....just the two listed above.

It's funny to see how many that puff out their chests and "won't comply" until they are really faced with a bad situation.  Most almost always comply.  Some choose death.  It's all in how you want to go out I suppose.  Some things are worth fighting for....others worth dying for.  Many aren't.

1 hour ago, Zambroski said:

That's a lot of ammo but, if you are staying put, it makes sense.  I've started amassing more 12ga ammo.  I think this weapon may be the best bet....at first anyway.  Nothing beats it at close range...and the fact these won't be fully dressed soldiers means it's take down, even at distance will be impressive.  

I'm overdue for a full inventory for sure.  

if i had to have one single long gun, it would be a remington 870 12 gauge, with 2 different barrels. you will find ammo wherever you go, can vary what it's set up for greatly and within seconds, and it's about the most reliable thing out there. i can even use it as a hammer or paddle if need be

6 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

I have a fishing pole and tons of venison running around home or the bug out location.  There's always road kill if things get spotty.  During the apocalypse is bald eagle fair game?  

Tastes like chicken 

3 hours ago, Tommcat said:

if i had to have one single long gun, it would be a remington 870 12 gauge, with 2 different barrels. you will find ammo wherever you go, can vary what it's set up for greatly and within seconds, and it's about the most reliable thing out there. i can even use it as a hammer or paddle if need be

The shotgun is probably the most underrated weapon of war.  It's because its kill range is relatively short but, anything inside of 30ft, it's a fucking monster.  And a good slug will bag the bad guys at 100 meters easy if you don't jerk.

You still popping targets at a mile?

4 hours ago, Highmark said:

Its not about use its about it being used as a commodity or money for trade. 

thats why i got the pot and the alcohol

2 minutes ago, Joe Bidens Brain said:

thats why i got the pot and the alcohol

Hookers and blow?

Edited October 16, 2024Oct 16 by Zambroski

Just now, Zambroski said:

Booker and blow?

man has to live

51 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

The shotgun is probably the most underrated weapon of war.  It's because its kill range is relatively short but, anything inside of 30ft, it's a fucking monster.  And a good slug will bag the bad guys at 100 meters easy if you don't jerk.

You still popping targets at a mile?

My 870 with a rifled deer barrel and saboted slugs is about 2 moa at 100 yards.

Yep, alternating between 1000 yards and 1 mile. Working on getting out to 2000 yards next

On 10/13/2024 at 10:46 AM, Sled_Hed said:

What about a 3000 gun fortress?