How to survive a crisis/martial law.

[Joe Bidens Brain]

51 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

I’m set fairly well.  Topped off bulk diesel tank and packed full freezers, and a herd of animals.  I’ll survive.

Neal

the people who kill you in your sleep will survive

[Zambroski]

21 minutes ago, Joe Bidens Brain said:

the people who kill you in your sleep will survive

Quite well for a while too!

[NaturallyAspirated]

26 minutes ago, Joe Bidens Brain said:

the people who kill you in your sleep will survive

I got all the booby traps ready.  They are welcome to give it a try.

Neal

[Joe Bidens Brain]

8 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

I got all the booby traps ready.  They are welcome to give it a try.

Neal

sure ya do

[NaturallyAspirated]

7 minutes ago, Joe Bidens Brain said:

sure ya do

I know, that’s why I said it.  

Neal

[Joe Bidens Brain]

4 minutes ago, NaturallyAspirated said:

I know, that’s why I said it.  

Neal

i bet even in my decrepit state and of less than sound mind i could raid your freezer and be shitting the remains before you even knew i was there

[NaturallyAspirated]

1 minute ago, Joe Bidens Brain said:

i bet even in my decrepit state and of less than sound mind i could raid your freezer and be shitting the remains before you even knew i was there

Unlikely.

Neal

[Joe Bidens Brain]

your corn would be floating in my turd bowl before you wake up

[NaturallyAspirated]

21 minutes ago, Joe Bidens Brain said:

your corn would be floating in my turd bowl before you wake up

  You have a dream anyhow…

Neal

[Highmark]

Really depends on the scenario but mostly it begins with location, location, location.   You can be fairly well equipped yet easily overrun if in a metro area.

Shit really hit the fan I'd go to a few of the nearby hog confinements, kill the most I could take then release the rest into the wild.   Hogs adapt easy and would be a forever food in the area. 

[ActionfigureJoe]

On 10/13/2024 at 12:23 PM, Zambroski said:

I'm actually somewhat surprised at how some feel this is going to go to go well for blue areas.  It's quite shocking.  Not a single military or right minded person in the US would want to plant his flag in a city at this outset.

It'd take nothing to knock out power and commo.  Nothing.  After that, the panic will devour everything in city limits.  Add to that that even a small amount of supplies being shut down will add incrementally to the mass chaos.  And it will be much more than a "small amount".  Death tolls among their own will be massive.

The rural people of NC would be fucked if it weren’t for the red and blue cities supplying generators, med supplies, food, etc, etc. What happened there is an apocalyptic event. Fortunately it’s confined to a small area. If that type of disruption was across North America there would be no winners. The living would envy the dead. 
 

The scope of the book isn’t about a global apocalypse. It’s about regional disruption of services due to a confined calamity. Survival during a 2-4 week period with some light at the end of the tunnel. 

[ActionfigureJoe]

6 hours ago, Highmark said:

Really depends on the scenario but mostly it begins with location, location, location.   You can be fairly well equipped yet easily overrun if in a metro area.

Shit really hit the fan I'd go to a few of the nearby hog confinements, kill the most I could take then release the rest into the wild.   Hogs adapt easy and would be a forever food in the area. 

If it were a global catastrophe the only way to live a life that doesn’t look like madmax would be for those that spent $30 million converting the abandoned missile silos. And that would only get you about 6 months. Maybe a year at best. 

[Joe Bidens Brain]

but in a van by the river you be set yo

[ActionfigureJoe]

7 hours ago, Joe Bidens Brain said:

i bet even in my decrepit state and of less than sound mind i could raid your freezer and be shitting the remains before you even knew i was there

Claims to be ex-Delta Force  

[Zambroski]

5 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

The rural people of NC would be fucked if it weren’t for the red and blue cities supplying generators, med supplies, food, etc, etc. What happened there is an apocalyptic event. Fortunately it’s confined to a small area. If that type of disruption was across North America there would be no winners. The living would envy the dead. 
 

The scope of the book isn’t about a global apocalypse. It’s about regional disruption of services due to a confined calamity. Survival during a 2-4 week period with some light at the end of the tunnel. 

So, ummmm....what?  This was nonsense and any idea that the cities would fare better than rural areas in any apocalyptic scenario is astoundingly ignorant.  "Generators".   

There's almost no scenario ever written where deaths don't spread in massive numbers in big cities due to shortages of almost everything within a few days...and tribal fuckery.  Close proximity brings the spread of disease to nightmarish realities.  No food, no water, no sustainable way to support the cancerous population.  People flee by the millions....into a place they have no idea of how to control or live...and probably won't do either for very long.  Stay where you are and enjoy what you've voted for....good and hard. 

11 hours ago, Highmark said:

Really depends on the scenario but mostly it begins with location, location, location.   You can be fairly well equipped yet easily overrun if in a metro area.

Shit really hit the fan I'd go to a few of the nearby hog confinements, kill the most I could take then release the rest into the wild.   Hogs adapt easy and would be a forever food in the area. 

Best bet in an urban setting is to appear invisible and hope it all passes.  If it's prolonged, every stone will be unturned in the search for resources.  If one "digging in" was able to ward off the first few "looky sees", they will return in numbers.  There is no safe defensive position on a long enough time line.  Again, anything urban will be plundered.  Period.

Best bet for anybody urban, get your shit and get out before you aren't able to do so.  Set up camp out in the sticks.  Cuz once that road gets shut down...you ain't leaving so easily...and nothing is going in.

Edited October 16, 2024 by Zambroski

[Zambroski]

12 hours ago, Joe Bidens Brain said:

your corn would be floating in my turd bowl before you wake up

 

Missed this gem! 

"Wake up"?  

[Highmark]

12 hours ago, ActionfigureJoe said:

If it were a global catastrophe the only way to live a life that doesn’t look like madmax would be for those that spent $30 million converting the abandoned missile silos. And that would only get you about 6 months. Maybe a year at best. 

Well depends on the catastrophe.   Man has an uncanny desire for survival.   It just hasn't been awoken in many for some time.  The loss of electricity for 6 mo to a year would kill at least half the population in that same timeframe.

[Highmark]

6 hours ago, Zambroski said:

So, ummmm....what?  This was nonsense and any idea that the cities would fare better than rural areas in any apocalyptic scenario is astoundingly ignorant.  "Generators".   

There's almost no scenario ever written where deaths don't spread in massive numbers in big cities due to shortages of almost everything within a few days...and tribal fuckery.  Close proximity brings the spread of disease to nightmarish realities.  No food, no water, no sustainable way to support the cancerous population.  People flee by the millions....into a place they have no idea of how to control or live...and probably won't do either for very long.  Stay where you are and enjoy what you've voted for....good and hard. 

Best bet in an urban setting is to appear invisible and hope it all passes.  If it's prolonged, every stone will be unturned in the search for resources.  If one "digging in" was able to ward off the first few "looky sees", they will return in numbers.  There is no safe defensive position on a long enough time line.  Again, anything urban will be plundered.  Period.

Best bet for anybody urban, get your shit and get out before you aren't able to do so.  Set up camp out in the sticks.  Cuz once that road gets shut down...you ain't leaving so easily...and nothing is going in.

Food, firearms/ammo, shelter, water and fire.   Water first.  Water shouldn't be an issue pending on how bad local rivers and lakes are contaminated and boiling should make most drinkable.  Have enough food on hand (1-2 years) until you can produce your own thru hunting or agriculture.  One of the easiest things to keep around are seeds.  

Cities would be death traps.

To quote the guy from Blackhawk Down.....Ammo dude, take ammo. 

 

Edited October 16, 2024 by Highmark

[Zambroski]

21 minutes ago, Highmark said:

Food, firearms/ammo, shelter, water and fire.   Water first.  Water shouldn't be an issue pending on how bad local rivers and lakes are contaminated and boiling should make most drinkable.  Have enough food on hand (1-2 years) until you can produce your own thru hunting or agriculture.  One of the easiest things to keep around are seeds.  

Cities would be death traps.

To quote the guy from Blackhawk Down.....Ammo dude, take ammo. 

 

The cities will turn into massive death centers.  Just about every armageddon/doomsday movie/book focuses on the big cities because that's where the chaos and mass death will be (drama).  Any resource there, including water, will be quickly used up or turn toxic withing weeks.  Imagine the rivers running through them as their infrastructure for waste falls apart. The countryside will become quite boring with only a well oiled militia to keep it interesting and keep the citiots without any useful skills back where they belong.  Oh sure, there will be some rolling gangs coming out and gathering resources to bring back into the cities but it won't be enough. What will be left in cities within a year will be about 20% of the population living in a squalor level totalitarian regime of fascism handing them a daily pittance for jobs. Which, is what they've been voting for anyway.  It's funny too...the people living there now really think they are "safe" because that's what cities bring them mentally.  "That can't happen here....the government will save us."  Problem, the military will be fractured and it ain't going the way of big liberal city think.  What will go that way is the ones wanting to prey on what's left of that population...and rule them with whatever arms they can grab. "No gun zone" signs prolly ain't gonna get it.  It's hardly fiction either.  Look around the world.  

I can hardly imagine living in the city every again now but couldn't imagine trying to work my way thought a disaster in one.  Shitholes filled with lots and lots of worthless people.

 

[Highmark]

9 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

The cities will turn into massive death centers.  Just about every armageddon/doomsday movie/book focuses on the big cities because that's where the chaos and mass death will be (drama).  Any resource there, including water, will be quickly used up or turn toxic withing weeks.  Imagine the rivers running through them as their infrastructure for waste falls apart. The countryside will become quite boring with only a well oiled militia to keep it interesting and keep the citiots without any useful skills back where they belong.  Oh sure, there will be some rolling gangs coming out and gathering resources to bring back into the cities but it won't be enough. What will be left in cities within a year will be about 20% of the population living in a squalor level totalitarian regime of fascism handing them a daily pittance for jobs. Which, is what they've been voting for anyway.  It's funny too...the people living there now really think they are "safe" because that's what cities bring them mentally.  "That can't happen here....the government will save us."  Problem, the military will be fractured and it ain't going the way of big liberal city think.  What will go that way is the ones wanting to prey on what's left of that population...and rule them with whatever arms they can grab. "No gun zone" signs prolly ain't gonna get it.  It's hardly fiction either.  Look around the world.  

I can hardly imagine living in the city every again now but couldn't imagine trying to work my way thought a disaster in one.  Shitholes filled with lots and lots of worthless people.

 

Imagine how quickly the leftist idea of "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" would go away.  Hunger and thirst can make make people do really violent things.

I think small towns and rural area's would work together better at least for a short time.  Once resources go that would change in a hurry as well.  

Edited October 16, 2024 by Highmark

[Anler]

Kill as many aristocrats as you can and take their stuff...

[Zambroski]

Just now, Highmark said:

Imagine how quickly the leftist idea of "the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few" would go away.  Hunger and thirst can make make people do really violent things.

I think small towns and rural area's would work together better at least for a short time.  

The very ones needing the daily hand outs in the city will be the first to turn.  It'll go south quickly from there.

The biggest issue with the rural population will be setting up commo, command and control in absence of any electronics but, it'll be done...it's just a question of how long it takes.  Door to door...and that's been done in the past successfully.

The big thing is what will happen in the military and how it breaks down.  Government command of it will fail and after that, it depends on who steps up and for what.  They will have months of infighting and slaughter before segments break away.  It's my thoughts that the millions of vets will work together with them and take control.  Veterans are the left's worst nightmare.  All at least somewhat trained and for every active member operating equipment now, there's about a dozen non-active that can do it right away.  Almost none vote dem and from what I hear in my circle, Zero are interested in this DC regime any longer.

"All enemies.  Foreign AND DOMESTIC."

[Highmark]

2 minutes ago, Zambroski said:

The very ones needing the daily hand outs in the city will be the first to turn.  It'll go south quickly from there.

The biggest issue with the rural population will be setting up commo, command and control in absence of any electronics but, it'll be done...it's just a question of how long it takes.  Door to door...and that's been done in the past successfully.

The big thing is what will happen in the military and how it breaks down.  Government command of it will fail and after that, it depends on who steps up and for what.  They will have months of infighting and slaughter before segments break away.  It's my thoughts that the millions of vets will work together with them and take control.  Veterans are the left's worst nightmare.  All at least somewhat trained and for every active member operating equipment now, there's about a dozen non-active that can do it right away.  Almost none vote dem and from what I hear in my circle, Zero are interested in this DC regime any longer.

"All enemies.  Foreign AND DOMESTIC."

Problem is if things are bad enough and the military works within itself to save itself would be bad.  Things change dramatically once their fuel runs out.  Unfortunately with what we've seen with LE from local to the top I don't think they could be trusted.   Military would likely be the same.   If people are really concerned about something like this occurring you're best to focus on you and yours.....nobody else. 

[Tommcat]

1 hour ago, Highmark said:

Food, firearms/ammo, shelter, water and fire.   

if you have a single firearm and even a small amount of ammo, and are willing to do what it takes, it is easy to get everything you need.
most people however, will not be willing to do what it takes

[Highmark]

3 minutes ago, Tommcat said:

if you have a single firearm and even a small amount of ammo, and are willing to do what it takes, it is easy to get everything you need.
most people however, will not be willing to do what it takes

Agreed.....the vast majority will look to others for help which won't last long in the worst circumstances.   

Ammo would be the new currency.   

Look at Ashville, NC.....60 people still missing and the nation is no longer paying attention to them.  Same went on with the Maui fire. 

Edited October 16, 2024 by Highmark