ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Ziemann said: You really are into dicks it seems. Gross to me, but have at it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: You really are into dicks it seems. Gross to me, but have at it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 The procross what the death knell. What an absolute garbage chassis. It sunk two major manus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, f7ben said: The procross what the death knell. What an absolute garbage chassis. It sunk two major manus Have had 4. Still better than any poo or doo. True story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ziemann said: Makes no sense to me. Have at it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 In 2012 it was dreadful. In 2013 til ???? it was decent sled but over time became more and more irrelevant in the sled market. My 2017 Roger Skime was an amazing sled. But I bought several Procross sleds over the years, and it no longer made sense to keep buying the same damn sled for significantly more money. It was relevant for a while, and then completely eclipsed by the other manufacturers. The Axys alone was a huge leapfrog over the Procross..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, ZR6000RR said: Have had 4. Still better than any poo or doo. True story. you’re either 5’4 or an idiot which one??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Ziemann said: In 2012 it was dreadful. In 2013 til ???? it was decent sled but over time became more and more irrelevant in the sled market. My 2017 Roger Skime was an amazing sled. But I bought several Procross sleds over the years, and it no longer made sense to keep buying the same damn sled for significantly more money. It was relevant for a while, and then completely eclipsed by the other manufacturers. The Axys alone was a huge leapfrog over the Procross..... Opinions are like ass holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, f7ben said: you’re either 5’4 or an idiot which one??? Just slightly smarter than you I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, ZR6000RR said: Opinions are like ass holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 The axys was 100000x the chassis any procross was. The g4 is much better as well. I’m a cat fan since I was a little kid but they dropped the ball huge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, ZR6000RR said: Just slightly smarter than you I guess. I doubt that , you’re a little faggot and universally laughed at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, Ziemann said: So you live in a zoo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, f7ben said: I doubt that , you’re a little faggot and universally laughed at. More pull than you will ever have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: So you live in a zoo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f7ben Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: More pull than you will ever have. No , you’re a little faggot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said: Just slightly smarter than you I guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinfarmer Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ziemann said: In 2012 it was dreadful. In 2013 til ???? it was decent sled but over time became more and more irrelevant in the sled market. My 2017 Roger Skime was an amazing sled. But I bought several Procross sleds over the years, and it no longer made sense to keep buying the same damn sled for significantly more money. It was relevant for a while, and then completely eclipsed by the other manufacturers. The Axys alone was a huge leapfrog over the Procross..... It was released a year or two too early and kept around too long. The Catalyst was in development when the Big T took over Cat and put a pause on it. They have treated me well and I have enjoyed them, but a dozen years is enough. Bring on the Catalyst or another brand. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airflite1 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 Just now, racinfarmer said: It was released a year or two too early and kept around too long. The Catalyst was in development when the Big T took over Cat and put a pause on it. They have treated me well and I have enjoyed them, but a dozen years is enough. Bring on the Catalyst or another brand. He's a 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, f7ben said: The axys was 100000x the chassis any procross was. The g4 is much better as well. I’m a cat fan since I was a little kid but they dropped the ball huge Opinions are like ass holes. Check the cross country race results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 minute ago, ZR6000RR said: Opinions are like ass holes. Check the cross country race results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ziemann said: All poo and doo did was put lipstick on their pig. Nothing changed under the plastics, other than killing the supposed best trail taming poo beaver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziemann Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, racinfarmer said: It was released a year or two too early and kept around too long. The Catalyst was in development when the Big T took over Cat and put a pause on it. They have treated me well and I have enjoyed them, but a dozen years is enough. Bring on the Catalyst or another brand. I agree 100%. There reaches a point where you have to make a decision: Keep buying the same damn thing for a much higher price? Or Move on. I chose to move on. The Catalyst is a good start, but will it really make much difference in marketshare? I think more than anything, it will stop the bleeding for Cat...... I will 100% re-evaluate and look at the Catalyst after the bugs get worked out. I'll likely wait to see if the 858 is a success or a failure. But I have to say that it is going to be tough to pull me back as a customer. My VR-1 has been a great sled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ziemann said: I agree 100%. There reaches a point where you have to make a decision: Keep buying the same damn thing for a much higher price? Or Move on. I chose to move on. The Catalyst is a good start, but will it really make much difference in marketshare? I think more than anything, it will stop the bleeding for Cat...... I will 100% re-evaluate and look at the Catalyst after the bugs get worked out. I'll likely wait to see if the 858 is a success or a failure. But I have to say that it is going to be tough to pull me back as a customer. My VR-1 has been a great sled. And all the stop rides, shitty headlights and constantly getting beat on the track by a very old Pro Cross chassis. Sucks to be Cat I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZR6000RR Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 33 minutes ago, f7ben said: No , you’re a little faggot So, you like cock? Gross, but fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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