El Niño 2023/2024 - winter is canceled

[Cat45]

23 hours ago, racinfarmer said:

And the brake dust to top it off!

Slow down to Jim's speed and you won't have to worry about brake dust

[Deephaven]

56 minutes ago, Cat45 said:

Slow down to Jim's speed and you won't have to worry about brake dust

Or anything breaking ever.  My 12 year old rides harder.

[AK440]

The Midwest is fucked for snow this winter.

 

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/michigan/2023/09/27/michigan-winter-outlook-how-el-nino-could-impact-snow-cold/

[Crnr2Crnr]

48 minutes ago, AK440 said:

The Midwest is fucked for snow this winter.

 

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/michigan/2023/09/27/michigan-winter-outlook-how-el-nino-could-impact-snow-cold/

they'll still be able to host Snocross events though... 

 

[jdsky]

Love it when they predict low snow, usually ends up being an above average riding season here.  Last season, record snow total but two weeks we had planned one in January and one in February both had to be moved a couple of weeks because of great trails and then suddenly melted to shit right before the week was about to start.

Trails closed in March and then banner fucking snow in April.  Bottom line is they cannot forecast shit.

[AK440]

3 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

they'll still be able to host Snocross events though... 

 

Pffttt… yeah bud, that sno-x race last spring in Michigan was epic. They barely had enough snow to cover the track. 

[Crnr2Crnr]

41 minutes ago, AK440 said:

Pffttt… yeah bud, that sno-x race last spring in Michigan was epic. They barely had enough snow to cover the track. 

but they still had it and a higher viewership than some tundra crossing in Bumblefuckburg Alaska, in person. 

[AK440]

Just now, Crnr2Crnr said:

but they still had it and a higher viewership than some tundra crossing in Bumblefuckburg Alaska, in person. 

No. No it didn’t. Empty grandstands are way more common than pro cross racers in sno-x. 

[Crnr2Crnr]

3 minutes ago, AK440 said:

No. No it didn’t. Empty grandstands are way more common than pro cross racers in sno-x. 

there's more people in the green snowcone pee shacks in any given moment at a SX race than there is at some remote fuel stop in the middle of Pissyourpantsketchem Alaska with a couple natives hanging on the rear bumper of a one out of twenty team Ski Doo trying to squeeze in an extra seven ounces of diluted fuel into it... if they haven't already stolen it by then.   

I like this game... is it fun for you as well?  

 

[AK440]

13 minutes ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

there's more people in the green snowcone pee shacks in any given moment at a SX race than there is at some remote fuel stop in the middle of Pissyourpantsketchem Alaska with a couple natives hanging on the rear bumper of a one out of twenty team Ski Doo trying to squeeze in an extra seven ounces of diluted fuel into it... if they haven't already stolen it by then.   

I like this game... is it fun for you as well?  

 

Counting racer friends, family and track workers as the “audience“ is weak.   The Iron Dog is free to watch on YouTube and runs through half of the biggest state in the union. Google Iron Dog, tons of different sites come up. Google sno-x and the only thing you find is Amsoil press releases. Go to the Amsoil site for info and 75% of the links don’t even fucking work. 

[ZR6000RR]

On 10/1/2023 at 7:36 AM, Cat45 said:

Slow down to Jim's speed and you won't have to worry about brake dust

Beat your slow ass to the next watering hole. 

[Cat45]

27 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said:

Beat your slow ass to the next watering hole. 

Anytime you wanna ride let me know. Tried to get you on a ride last year but you had excuses

[ZR6000RR]

6 minutes ago, Cat45 said:

Anytime you wanna ride let me know. Tried to get you on a ride last year but you had excuses

I wont ride with ass holes!

[Deephaven]

6 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said:

I wont ride with ass holes!

Can't even ride with yourself, not sure why you are on a snowmobile forum...

[Cat45]

10 minutes ago, ZR6000RR said:

I wont ride with ass holes!

So you're all talk i guess 

[ZR6000RR]

2 minutes ago, Cat45 said:

So you're all talk i guess 

No. I just wont ride with ass holes. I have my group. You are definitely not in it.

[Deephaven]

57 minutes ago, AK440 said:

Counting racer friends, family and track workers as the “audience“ is weak.   The Iron Dog is free to watch on YouTube and runs through half of the biggest state in the union. Google Iron Dog, tons of different sites come up. Google sno-x and the only thing you find is Amsoil press releases. Go to the Amsoil site for info and 75% of the links don’t even fucking work. 

Snox is copyrighted and can't be put on YouTube.  Fucking dumbass.  Perhaps realizing how pay tv works in 2023 would be something you should look into. 

As for your idiotic argument perhaps the sport that can CHARGE for viewership in person or over the air is more profitable than the FREE one.  You should go to a race.  The stands are packed.

[krom]

8 hours ago, Cat45 said:

So you're all talk i guess 

Yup, talks a ton of shit, but never has the balls to back up a single word of it.

He's even afraid to run against guys on 500's

Edited October 3, 2023 by krom

[Crnr2Crnr]

9 hours ago, Deephaven said:

Snox is copyrighted and can't be put on YouTube.  Fucking dumbass.  Perhaps realizing how pay tv works in 2023 would be something you should look into. 

As for your idiotic argument perhaps the sport that can CHARGE for viewership in person or over the air is more profitable than the FREE one.  You should go to a race.  The stands are packed.

which of these has more content and views? 

https://www.youtube.com/@isocacss

https://www.youtube.com/@IronDogRace

[AK440]

14 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

which of these has more content and views? 

https://www.youtube.com/@isocacss

https://www.youtube.com/@IronDogRace

Bwahahaha, thanks for proving my point! Amsoil spends how much money and effort on advertising and has a whole 13,300 subscribers with over 1100 videos dating back to 12 years. Wow. Just 13,300 people think enough about snocross to subscribe. PATHETIC! 
 

In the mean time you’ve got the Iron Dog that does a shitty job of promoting a once a year race. But, this obscure little YT channel in bumblefuck Alaska has 82,000+ views for the Iron Dog race. Amsoil can continue to piss away money on promoting a dying sport but it’s circling the toilet ever closer with each passing year. 

 

[ZR6000RR]

18 minutes ago, AK440 said:

Bwahahaha, thanks for proving my point! Amsoil spends how much money and effort on advertising and has a whole 13,300 subscribers with over 1100 videos dating back to 12 years. Wow. Just 13,300 people think enough about snocross to subscribe. PATHETIC! 
 

In the mean time you’ve got the Iron Dog that does a shitty job of promoting a once a year race. But, this obscure little YT channel in bumblefuck Alaska has 82,000+ views for the Iron Dog race. Amsoil can continue to piss away money on promoting a dying sport but it’s circling the toilet ever closer with each passing year. 

 

Are you having a rough night? Maybe call the suicide hotline? You know?

[AK440]

3 hours ago, ZR6000RR said:

Are you having a rough night? Maybe call the suicide hotline? You know?

Do you really want to add another member to the list of people who bash on you? I generally ignore what you post because you are so ill informed. I just figured you were learning disabled or something. 

[Crnr2Crnr]

7 hours ago, AK440 said:

Bwahahaha, thanks for proving my point! Amsoil spends how much money and effort on advertising and has a whole 13,300 subscribers with over 1100 videos dating back to 12 years. Wow. Just 13,300 people think enough about snocross to subscribe. PATHETIC! 
 

In the mean time you’ve got the Iron Dog that does a shitty job of promoting a once a year race. But, this obscure little YT channel in bumblefuck Alaska has 82,000+ views for the Iron Dog race. Amsoil can continue to piss away money on promoting a dying sport but it’s circling the toilet ever closer with each passing year. 

 

it's all about 'views' these days isn't it?

[Simple Jim]

Does anyone know if I can fit 35's on my kawasaki without a lift? thinking about doing this dog race but dont want to use my skis in the dirt

[AK440]

4 hours ago, Crnr2Crnr said:

it's all about 'views' these days isn't it?

Oh wow. Yeah. You’re totally right, snocross is super popular, even way more popular than the Iron Dog race straight out of Bumblefuck, AK.

I did a search and found this article about sno-x:

With question marks at the beginning of last year, sport organizers Joe Duncan, Scott O'Malley and the WSA crew answered their critics within the snowmobile industry by holding a series of well-received races that attracted both thousands of spectators and ESPN television coverage. The exclamation point to the year was the fact that interest in snocross continued to climb even though the snowmobile industry itself suffered through a second consecutive lackluster winter during which low-snow conditions and crushing inventory slowed sales. Despite the industry's poor health, interest in snocross continues to soar. Attendance at races is up substantially, new teams have entered the sport, the four major sled manufacturers (Arctic Cat, Polaris, Ski-Doo and Yamaha) are putting the bulk of their racing budgets toward snocross and many of the top racers are switching teams with the frequency of free agents in hockey in an effort to get big-buck deals.

 

 

The Show Must Go On
That snocross races were held at all last year is a testament to WSA's commitment to the sport. While events were being cancelled from Alaska to Quebec and everywhere in between due to lack of snow, WSA continued to run races. The organization spent tens of thousands of dollars either making snow or hauling it in to each of the eight national races and several regional events. 

 

WSA was rewarded for their efforts with an hour-long television show on ESPN and espn2. In addition, attendance was up an average of 28 percent at national and regional events. According to Duncan, the following are the total entries and attendance figures for WSA's eight national races during the 1998-1999 season. 

 

 

(Attendance figures are provided by the promoters.):
http://www.espn.com/i/li.gif  Round 1 Duluth, Minn.: Entries, 837; Attendance, 19,800 (last day was cancelled due to lack of snow)
http://www.espn.com/i/li.gif Round 2 Hinckley, Minn.: Entries, 761; Attendance, 6,200
http://www.espn.com/i/li.gif Round 3 Crandon, Wis.: Entries, 500; Attendance, 6,100 (despite a raging blizzard and the fact that it was held over New Year's weekend)
http://www.espn.com/i/li.gif Round 4 Deadwood, S.D.: Entries, 319; Attendance, 7,300
http://www.espn.com/i/li.gif Round 5 Minneapolis, Minn.: Entries, 751; Attendance, 19,200
http://www.espn.com/i/li.gif Round 6 Valcourt, Quebec: Entries, 159 (includes Pro and Semi-Pro classes only); Attendance, 8,200
http://www.espn.com/i/li.gif Round 7 Syracuse, NY: Entries 119 (Pro only); Attendance, 10,300
http://www.espn.com/i/li.gif Round 8 Lake Geneva, Wis.: Entries 530; Attendance, 12,200

Including the 10 WSA regional races, Duncan estimates the total attendance to be 142,000. Also, the entries were capped at several of the events or they would have been much higher. The Sport classes - typically made up of racers in their mid-teens - are the largest divisions, where participation can number in the hundreds.